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Insidious Von

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ACTRA is lobbying the CRTC to impose Canadian content laws on the internet. There's no need for me to remind people what Can-con laws have done to the quality of radio and video, how they would impose it on the internet is beyond me. What is a certainty is SP's will be passing on the bill to us the tax-payer.

Our Lady Peace anyone?

http://www.thestar.com/Entertainment/article/588997
 

mmouse

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This is fucking bullshit. Luckily it should be practically impossible to implement in case these morons actually decide to do it.
 

red

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Insidious Von said:
ACTRA is lobbying the CRTC to impose Canadian content laws on the internet. There's no need for me to remind people what Can-con laws have done to the quality of radio and video, how they would impose it on the internet is beyond me. What is a certainty is SP's will be passing on the bill to us the tax-payer.

Our Lady Peace anyone?

http://www.thestar.com/Entertainment/article/588997
aren't most sp's canadian?
 

gramage

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How's this for Canadian content: on every website run out of Canada the right hand corner of the screen must be Joy's signature pic of her amazing ass.
 

C Dick

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Even the stupid bastards at the CRTC realize that it would be hard to actually force Canadian content onto websites, though they have discussed forcing it onto major Canadian sites.

What this proposal suggests is a 3% tax on internet service, with the revenue to be paid to the the CRTC's pets - content providers whose content people do not want. So all it really means is that internet service in Canada gets more expensive, and more art-fags are on high-end welfare.
 

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Ok well everyone hold up a sec. The CRTC isn't at the point where they are regulating the internet. The New Media hearing which started on February 17th isn't designed for the CRTC to start putting new regulations into place but rather to look at the role new media has and to see how it reflects the Broadcast Act (the BA ac was implement in 1968 and updated in 1991 to basically cover 3 areas pertaining to the conservation of Canadian content and culture).

In 1999 the CRTC decided not to regulate the internet in accordance with the Broadcasting Act because, well...look at the internet back in 1999. Nothing like it is now. But now that the internet has taken off and in a sense has begun to replace traditional television, they need to start looking for some new definitions to help make sense of WTF is going on because frankly...they have no idea.

So while they haven't regulated yet, it is an interesting debate to keep your eye on. And for the record, I agree that regulating Canadian Content on the internet is bullsh*t and they know it haha!
 

OddSox

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CRTC is obsolete and should be canned. If we want to subsidize the broadcast industry then let's do that and be done with it - no need to dress it up in fake 'Canadian Content' issues.
 

LancsLad

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OddSox said:
CRTC is obsolete and should be canned. If we want to subsidize the broadcast industry then let's do that and be done with it - no need to dress it up in fake 'Canadian Content' issues.
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If we scrapped the CRTC that would lead to a lot more unemployment in kwebec. Oh the horror of it all.:rolleyes:



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oldjones

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Insidious Von said:
ACTRA is lobbying the CRTC to impose Canadian content laws on the internet. There's no need for me to remind people what Can-con laws have done to the quality of radio and video, how they would impose it on the internet is beyond me. What is a certainty is SP's will be passing on the bill to us the tax-payer.

Our Lady Peace anyone?

http://www.thestar.com/Entertainment/article/588997
Did you actually read beyond the headline of the story you linked to? What's being pushed by the arts organizations is a levy like the one the cable TV guys whine about—until they want to boast about being proudly Canadian, so protect us from the big, bad Yankees—to fund production here. Not regulation of Can con.
 

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Did anyone note the end of this article -

"The commissioners asked the arts groups why the industry needs more money since there is already the Canada New Media Fund, which will receive $28.6 million over the next two years and $14.3 million annually after that."

We already giving these yahoos $28 million ? And they want more ? What are they doing with it ?
 

Insidious Von

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oldjones said:
Did you actually read beyond the headline of the story you linked to? What's being pushed by the arts organizations is a levy like the one the cable TV guys whine about—until they want to boast about being proudly Canadian, so protect us from the big, bad Yankees—to fund production here. Not regulation of Can con.
Yes, I read and understood it very well but our interpetations of it are very different oldjones. We have an inferiority complex converning the USA. Unless we get rid of it we'll always get taken in by mediocrity.

The Chantal Kraviasucks will never stop.
 

oldjones

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The only folks who may feel Canadians produce inferior material are those who don't watch or listen to it. Which is certainly their right.

Talent being pretty much spread equally randomly about the world, it isn't nationality that makes superior art. It's opportunity, and that includes the opportunity to fail and try again.

With ten times the producing opportunities just across the undefended border, dumping their excess production on us, our artists are in the same situation as say a shoe factory in Saskatoon whose entire production is swamped by a day's overrun from a giant US plant. That sort of dumping's outlawed by NAFTA for physical goods, like the paper in a book, but not for the content.

ACTRA and the others aren't proposing to stop anyone from accessing any content they want, just to make sure the local producers aren't buried under the cheap crap (already bought and paid for down south) that gets foisted on us at the bargain basement rates our providers—who used to just steal the stuff—are used to.
 

C Dick

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oldjones said:
With ten times the producing opportunities just across the undefended border, dumping their excess production on us, our artists are in the same situation as say a shoe factory in Saskatoon whose entire production is swamped by a day's overrun from a giant US plant. That sort of dumping's outlawed by NAFTA for physical goods, like the paper in a book, but not for the content.
That makes no sense. A small shoe factory anywhere in North America would be at the same disadvantage to a giant one, unless there are tariffs or something to restrict trade. How does an individual, independant singer in Iowa have an advantage over the same singer in Ontario? Each can send their music to the same places, etc. Unless there is some restraint of trade, they have an equal opportunity, and intervention is stupid.
 

OddSox

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'Dumping' may have been an issue when the industry (radio, TV and film) was difficult to 'crack' because the expenses involved in producing, promoting and distributing of material posed a significant barrier.

But we're talking about the internet - new technology has made the costs of production, promotion and distribution almost negligible. There is no longer a financial barrier to making your material available worldwide - and if it doesn't sell, that's nobody else's fault.

If anything, the internet has made it easier for Canadian content to be available - and worldwide instead of just in Canada.
 

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and what about the american crap that is losing ratings in the U.S on stations like CTV and global insist on putting on? an example is american idol which is declining in viewers and ratings
 

OddSox

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canada-man said:
and what about the american crap that is losing ratings in the U.S on stations like CTV and global insist on putting on? an example is american idol which is declining in viewers and ratings
Um, they're not talking about TV anymore - its the internet. TV is going to be a dodo bird real soon and then they will be off the gravy train - unless they can hook up to the new media...
 

C Dick

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OddSox said:
Um, they're not talking about TV anymore - its the internet. TV is going to be a dodo bird real soon and then they will be off the gravy train - unless they can hook up to the new media...
Oh they will hook up, they are effective parasites. This situation is a perfect example of that. Everything must be taxed more, so that the government can fund massive sites of aboriginal and francophone content that nobody will ever use.
 
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