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Moon Landing today...1st attempt in over 50 years

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TomFord1980

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And by a private company no less!
Is this the new space race?..how many other "private companies"..have a lunar landing in their future??
It is about time Thumper! Although it's hard to believe they actually landed on the moon with the technology they had back then. Quite an impressive feat.
 

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There have been other attempts but this the first successful landing in 50 years.

Example
"The Luna 25 mission has ended in failure, raising major questions about the future of Russia's space program. Russia says its Luna 25 spacecraft has crashed into the surface of the Moon during preparations to attempt a landing at the lunar south pole."
 

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This is the first time the US have actually landed on the moon. The last time was all bogus and they used a movie studio.

Proof is it took 50 years to actually develop the technology to do it. Can you imagine telling everyone they put a satellite in space but then taking 50 years to do it again.
 

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And by a private company no less!
Is this the new space race?..how many other "private companies"..have a lunar landing in their future??
This just solidifies the doubt that the moon landing ever happened. Think about all the impossibilities they are currently facing just to get an unmanned probe to the moon against the backdrop of them having a bunch of guys up there bombing around on a dune buggy 50 years ago. The moon landing never happened it was simply our first major dose of propaganda proving the West was more advanced than the Russians.
 
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xix

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La la land
Is there a full video of THIS landing?
- Say 10 mins before and after the initial landing?
- Odd a vertical fridge can land so well?
- How many cameras were running? You think they would have hooked up at least 6 on each side.

In the old NASA landing is there a blueprint how they took the The Bell Aerosystems Lunar Landing Research Vehicle and reassembled? I mean those tires seen to big to me.
 

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One giant tumble for mankind! NASA confirms $118 million Odysseus lunar aircraft has TIPPED OVER onto its side after failed landing on the moon
  • Odysseus is believed to be laying horizontal on the lunar surface after landing
  • Intuitive Machines said the 'soft landing' was based on old data
By STACY LIBERATORE FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and REUTERS

PUBLISHED: 17:36 EST, 23 February 2024 | UPDATED: 18:27 EST, 23 February 2024



NASA has confirmed that the first private owned spacecraft to land on the moon has 'tipped over on its side' - but is 'alive and well.'
Intuitive Machines had previously received data that its $118 million Odysseus was standing with its six feet on the ground, but updates reveled the lander is laying on the lunar landscape.
The company noted one of the legs became caught, causing it to fall onto its side - just one day after a white-knuckle touchdown that was confirmed as a soft landing.

CEO Steve Altemus explained he and his team were not deliberately misleading the public when they shared on X about America's return to the lunar surface - they were just 'working with old telemetry.'
Intuitive Machines had previously received data that Odysseus was standing with its six feet on the ground, but updates reveled the lander is laying on the lunar landscape. The company held a press conference and used a model to show the craft's position


Intuitive Machines had previously received data that Odysseus was standing with its six feet on the ground, but updates reveled the lander is laying on the lunar landscape. The company held a press conference and used a model to show the craft's position.

Odysseus is believed to be getting solar power, but laying on its side is hindering radio transmission.
Altemus explained in a press conference that the craft's foot caught the surface while moving sideways, resulting in the lander tipping onto a rock.
The majority of the payloads are in view, allowing each to collect science.
'We are hopeful the top deck solar array is not damaged and that the sun comes around the lander to get some power,' said Altemus, as he used a model to show Odysseus' position on the moon.
He continued to explain in the press conference that Odysseus has much of its operating abilities regardless of being tipped over.
NASA has confirmed that the first private owned spacecraft to land on the moon has 'tipped over on its side' (stock)


NASA has confirmed that the first private owned spacecraft to land on the moon has 'tipped over on its side' (stock)

Intuitive Machines and NASA employees celebrate as the Odysseus lander made the first successful American moon landing in over 50 years. But it was not revealed until the next day that the craft had fallen over
'We do have communications with the lander' and sending commands to the vehicle, Altemus said, adding that teams were working to obtain the first photo images from the lunar surface at the landing site.
A brief update on the mission's status posted to the company's website earlier on Friday described Odysseus 'alive and well.'

The company had said shortly after touchdown on Thursday that radio signals indicated Odysseus had landed in an upright position, but Atlemus said that faulty conclusion was based on telemetry from before the landing.
Intuitive Machines mission director Tim Crain said the spacecraft, burning a propulsion fuel of liquid methane and liquid oxygen for the first time in space, 'performed flawlessly' during its flight to the moon.
This image provided by Intuitive Machines shows its Odysseus lunar lander over the near side of the moon following lunar orbit insertion on Wednesday


This image provided by Intuitive Machines shows its Odysseus lunar lander over the near side of the moon following lunar orbit insertion on Wednesday
The six-legged robot lander touched down at 5:30pm ET Thursday at a crater called Malapert A  (pictured) near the moon's south pole



The six-legged robot lander touched down at 5:30pm ET Thursday at a crater called Malapert A (pictured) near the moon's south pole
The six-legged, uncrewed robot spacecraft reached the lunar surface on Thursday after a nail-biting final approach and descent in which a problem surfaced with the lander's navigation system, requiring engineers on the ground to employ an untested work-around at the eleventh hour.

It also took some time after an anticipated radio blackout to re-establish communications with the spacecraft and determine its fate some 239,000 miles (384,000 km) from Earth.
When contact was finally renewed, the signal was faint, confirming that the lander had touched down.

However, the faint signal left mission control uncertain as to the precise condition and position of the vehicle.
Odysseus was partly funded by NASA who paid to put scientific equipment aboard but also carried a number of other objects including 125 miniature sculptures by Jeff Koons


Odysseus was partly funded by NASA who paid to put scientific equipment aboard but also carried a number of other objects including 125 miniature sculptures by Jeff Koons
Neither NASA or Intuitive Machines have shared the next steps for Odysseus.
Odysseus launched last week aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket from NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral, Florida.
As it moved into the final stages of the operation, the craft's handlers discovered that the laser range-finders were not working.
This vital system is what allows the craft to determine how far it is above the lunar surface and can make the difference between a soft landing and a crash.
Using a last-minute software patch the engineers were able to convert NASA's experimental Navigation Doppler Lidar, which was being carried in the payload, to take on the job.
At 6:11pm EST, Odysseus fired its engine for the crucial 11-minute burn, decelerating from 4,000mph (6,500kph) to just 2.2mph (3.5kph), 33ft above the surface. Having slowed its fall, Odysseus was believed to have landed safely on the rim of the giant Malapert A crater about 190 miles (300km) north of the moon's South Pole. After 15 tense minutes, the crew back on Earth finally received the lander's signal, confirming what they thought had been a success.
 
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xix

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La la land
I am no scientist but logic dictates to me the legs should have been 50 - 100% longer than the full height of the fridge. Or twice as along.

Even if the Fridge was sent to land horizontally I would still want the legs to extend twice the longest points or lengths of the fridge to avoid tipping.

Obviously these scientist never have moved furniture or fridges before.
 
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Jami77

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Manned landings are easier, because you literally have a crew doing the landing. Unmanned landings rely on automated software, so are harder.
Have you seen the footage from 50 years ago of some guy looking out of a window trying to land it and then overshooting. And our computers 50 years later arent any better? It would make more sense that we never did it 50 years ago and we are just learning right now.

And if its that hard then just put any 14 year old gamer into orbit around the moon and give him a PS5 controller and guaranteed he'll nail the landing every time.

Justa thought also but why not have a unit that can land any which way. Then the doors open from all angles and out pops a rover that can right itself. My kids have RC cars that can climb up walls and do flips and right themselves. And they have drones that can auto follow them when they go snowboarding. But millions of scientists cant land an upright fridge on the moon? hmmm..
 
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