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Imdrunk

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Shapiro and Adkins are on the hot seat and aren't gonna take the blame right away. Whether you think it's a managers fault or not, they're always the first to go. I say he's gone within 2 weeks or sooner.
 
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Shatkins are on no hot seat. They signed extensions last year. And the Jays are in a playoff position despite playing below their potential.

What are they supposed to do when pitchers can't find the strike zone and the batters are swinging at pitches 8 inches outside or up at their eyeballs? Vladdy, their biggest weapon, is not playing close to last year's level.

I don't think it has anything to do with how they're being deployed or the manager's strategy.
 

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Shapiro and Adkins are on the hot seat and aren't gonna take the blame right away. Whether you think it's a managers fault or not, they're always the first to go. I say he's gone within 2 weeks or sooner.
Shatkins are on no hot seat. They signed extensions last year. And the Jays are in a playoff position despite playing below their potential.

What are they supposed to do when pitchers can't find the strike zone and the batters are swinging at pitches 8 inches outside or up at their eyeballs? Vladdy, their biggest weapon, is not playing close to last year's level.

I don't think it has anything to do with how they're being deployed or the manager's strategy.

How drunk are you when you watch the games?
 

Imdrunk

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They play in a country club atmosphere, it's not working with montoyo. The inmates can only run the asylum for so long. When you're down 10-1 and pull out the hr jacket like you've just won the world series, that's a culture problem.

I believe there's an edit function where you don't have to post the same gibberish twice FYI. They are in a playoff position because most teams are garbage.

Below what potential, teams have adjusted to them and the jays haven't responded.
 

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They play in a country club atmosphere, it's not working with montoyo. The inmates can only run the asylum for so long. When you're down 10-1 and pull out the hr jacket like you've just won the world series, that's a culture problem.

Jays starting pitching and middle relief is their problem thus far. Not much Montoyo can do about that I'm afraid.

I'm not a fan of the Jacket and carts either. Or the forearm bashing that the Yankees do.

But this is a different era and I guess that just comes with the territory.

Sometimes I see the Jays and think maybe they spend to much time grooming themselves in front of the mirror and not enough time worrying about opposing pitchers,lol. But their team hitting stats are excellent. They're third overall in team batting average. First in OPS. Fifth in runs scored. So shows you what I know.

Trade winds are blowing in from lake Ontario I'm sure......
 

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This is all part of becoming a mature team that wants to win.

This team made huge strides last year and most of them were playing well above their average year.

This year they have come down a notch and are realizing that winning is not as easy as it appeared to be last season.

I predicted this year that they would finish at or around .500.

Next year they will be much wiser and more mature as players and they will want to win through hard work and team work.
 
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shack

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This is all part of becoming a mature team that wants to win.

This team made huge strides last year and most of them were playing well above their average year.

This year they have come down a notch and are realizing that winning is not as easy as it appeared to be last season.

I predicted this year that they would finish at or around .500.

Next year they will be much wiser and more mature as players and they will want to win through hard work and team work.
The wisdom and impartiality of a Ref.(y)
 

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If they dismiss Montoya they're going to have a lot of disgruntled hispanic players on their roster.
 
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Middle relief and starting pitching - enough said. Today they ran into a hot pitcher they haven't seen.
 

Imdrunk

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Too many hat on backwards prima Donna's, won't win with this group. They lack intensity like a Molitor and Donaldson brought, although Donaldson is a douche.
 

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Too many hat on backwards prima Donna's, won't win with this group. They lack intensity like a Molitor and Donaldson brought, although Donaldson is a douche.
Molitor.............. and Alomar and Carter and Devo and Olerud and many other very good players. That team was loaded and had the highest payroll in the league.
 
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