Monarchy

danmand

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Oh Christ! It was so nice while it lasted.

Now on the other hand tomorrow (July 22) is (our future King) Prince George's first birthday!
 
Oh Christ! It was so nice while it lasted.

Now on the other hand Tomorrow (July 22) is Prince George's (our future King) first birthday!

We hope not.
 
LONDON -- When chubby-cheeked Prince George blows out his birthday candles on Tuesday, Britain will be celebrating a whole lot more than the future king’s first year of royalty.

Since the swaddled infant was first thrust into public eye and carried out of London's St. Mary’s Hospital, he’s attained superstar status – and sparked a rebirth for Britain’s royal family.

“Prince George has signaled the start of a new era for the royal family, and I think he has engendered a lot more interest in the royal family, especially from youngsters,” said Camilla Tominey, royal commentator for the Sunday Express newspaper. “The whole scene has been reinvigorated by William, Kate, Prince Harry and now baby George, because he represents the future.”

That future has been clouded in recent years, whether by the scandal accompanying Prince Charles’ affair, the death of Diana and the prolonged, vocal attacks by republicans who challenge the sanctity and sanity of a monarchy.

The tone towards Britain’s royals first started to shift with the marriage of Prince William to Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge. Young, fresh-faced and modern, the couple represented a new face of the monarchy. Then along came George.

His first brush with stardom came when hundreds of cameras captured the newborn’s exit from the posh Lindo wing of the hospital, where media had camped out for weeks to await the third in line to the throne’s arrival.

The fact that he made the cover of Vanity Fair before age one is certainly impressive;

That swaddle – and George’s subsequent outfit choices – have tended to quickly sell out in stores, cementing the tot’s status as a tiny titan of fashion. Retailers have given his influence a name: the “George effect.”

“When Kate and William first stepped out on the Lindo wing and presented George to the world, really it was the dawning of a new era for the royal family,” Tominey said. “The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and their baby are stars of the show now.”

Since then, George’s every move has been closely watched. The baby has helped humanize the royals, with his parents endeared themselves to mothers and fathers the world over by sharing stories of their tot’s tantrums and toy-stealing. Every royal play date or romper featuring George draws international oohs and aahs, every teeter and wobble raising the question: Is the future king walking yet?

The baby already has graced the covers of Hello, People, and Vanity Fair magazines – the last declared George “the world’s most eligible infant.”

“The birth of Prince George has given new zest, new vitality to the monarchy,” says Robert Jobson, royal editor of the London Evening Standard. “The fact that he made the cover of Vanity Fair before age one is certainly impressive, and shows you that the monarchy is certainly relevant to the younger generation. When you have a queen who is 88 and the Duke of Edinburgh who is in his 90s, they need that new injection.”

While still in diapers, George also has helped ease some touchier matters of royal diplomacy. Accompanying his parents on an overseas trip to New Zealand and Australia earlier this year, George earned yet another nickname – “the republican slayer.”

The nickname was a reference to Australia’s republican movement, which does not want a British monarch as the country’s head of state. After the royal visit – with Oz left charmed by William’s tales of how George had taken to chewing on his gift of a cuddly wombat toy – opinion polls showed greater support for the monarchy.

“The Australians dubbed Prince George the republican slayer because any sentiment really washed away when they all saw this unbelievably adorable chubby cheeked boy looking feisty and ready to go,” Tominey explained.


I hope Danmand - the "cuddly wombat toy" of TERB - joins the rest of us in wishing Prince George a happy birthday.

http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/by-george-hes-done-it-prince-revitalizes-royals
 
https://storify.com/clarencehouse/happybirthdayprincegeorge

A touching and heart-warming special tribute to the bouncing baby prince on storify today. Here's hoping we all sent the young royal our own special birthday tweets. Danmand? Did you send your tweet to the Little Prince?

Im trying to understand why it is that people make such a fuss over some rich family that live in a big house in such a small country. WTF people get a life.
 
Im trying to understand why it is that people make such a fuss over some rich family that live in a big house in such a small country. WTF people get a life.
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Some rich family that can trace its ancestry all the way back to King Egbert of Wessex in 802 and Kenneth I King of the Picts in 841.
 
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Some rich family that can trace its ancestry all the way back to King Egbert of Wessex in 802 and Kenneth I King of the Picts in 841.

So what, if we all dug deep enough we can trace out ancestry back for centuries. These people are no better than anyone else. Its just silly that we make such a fuss over them.
 
This new couple Kate & William hopefully can provide same sprit as Diana did. I have no problems with the monarchy. I just don't like Princess Charles and Camilla?
 
It's not like electing folks is any assurance we won't get a crook or a crackhead in the top job.
 
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Some rich family that can trace its ancestry all the way back to King Egbert of Wessex in 802 and Kenneth I King of the Picts in 841.

I think you'll find that the British royal family are all foreigners by blood (bloody foreigners?).

The House of Windsor is really the House of Saxe Coburg Gotha. The Queen is a direct descendant of Dietrich of Wettin from the 10th century. Some claim that the Queen's real name is Elizabeth Wettin, were she ever to assume a common family name in case the British monarchy was abolished. Prince Philip is from the House of Oldenburg, which is a mix of Greek, Russian Scandinavian and German ancestry. Queen Victoria was of the House of Hanover.
 
I think you'll find that the British royal family are all foreigners by blood (bloody foreigners?).

The House of Windsor is really the House of Saxe Coburg Gotha. The Queen is a direct descendant of Dietrich of Wettin from the 10th century. Some claim that the Queen's real name is Elizabeth Wettin, were she ever to assume a common family name in case the British monarchy was abolished. Prince Philip is from the House of Oldenburg, which is a mix of Greek, Russian Scandinavian and German ancestry. Queen Victoria was of the House of Hanover.
Which of course ignores (at the death of Queen Anne) senior line Protestant descendant of King James VI & I, who was himself the senior line (at the death of Elizabeth I) descendant of King Henry VII and Queen Elizabeth (of York).


The comment of Franz, Duke of Bavaria (Titular King of Bavaria) and senior Jacobite claimant when some enthusiastic Jacobist brought up the topic was "Stop talking such rubbish."
 
The only thing I know about royalty is that once a king, always a king.

Once a knight is enough!

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The assumption of the House of Hanover to the British Throne was brokered by the Hohenzollern Kings of Prussia. It was done to guard against French expansionism with a permanent ally and to insure that the Duchies of Germany would not become a battleground for European Powers (The Thirty Years War). The pact lasted for over 200 years until broken in 1914. The Windsors are also related to the Krupp family through the Gotha line, the German industrialists who powered it through three major wars. Even Hitler considered the English cousins.

In 1906, in a bid to strengthen the ties between Great Britain and Germany, Kaiser Wilhelm II arranged the marriage of Bertha Krupp to Alfried von Gotha (the son of a Civil War Veteran). King Edward VII attended the event.
 
The assumption of the House of Hanover to the British Throne was brokered by the Hohenzollern Kings of Prussia. It was done to guard against French expansionism with a permanent ally and to insure that the Duchies of Germany would not become a battleground for European Powers (The Thirty Years War). The pact lasted for over 200 years until broken in 1914. The Windsors are also related to the Krupp family through the Gotha line, the German industrialists who powered it through three major wars. Even Hitler considered the English cousins.

I wouldn't have thought the Hohenzollerns had the clout back in 1715. They were a very junior ally to a dominant Britain. George of Hanover was an old military buddy who had fought side by side w the Duke of Marlborough. I always thought that this got him the gig.
 
You are correct in part oagre, the Hanovers and the Hohenzollern were allies. They had the mutual aim of keeping foreign powers out of Germany. While the Hanovers fought against the French, Frederik King of Prussia was at war with Peter the Great against the Swedes.
 
The assumption of the House of Hanover to the British Throne was brokered by the Hohenzollern Kings of Prussia.
Here I was under the simple impression that a) the Young Pretender was so stupid that he refused to make a sincere conversion to the Church of England, which despite the Act of Settlement might have secured him the Throne. b) that no one in authority in either England or Scotland wanted either a Roman Catholic Cardinal (the Old Pretender's younger son) or the next heir the niece of Louis XIV and Wife of the King of Savoy to come to the British Throne. c) that the Electress Sophia was the nearest patrilineal Protestant relative of Queen Anne.

Even as Oagre wrote, in 1714 Prussia was not one of the major powers. Indeed the Electors of Brandenburg had only been able to style themselves "King in Prussia" for 13 years.