Meeting SP in private ??

[krayjee]

Hey dave..If you are single, go for it and you"ll have the best time of your life. I had seen 3 of them myself and you'll be surprised how lonely some of them were after their business hrs. They are all human beings and once in a while they need somebody to talk to or cuddle with as normal people. Just be prepared to listen to some stories and dramas they went thru on some bad days.

But if you are married. Pls stay away. You are looking for troubles more than you can handle if you two become emotionally attached..

 

[SofiaYork]

I did my research on indi vs. agency a little over a year ago. The advantage of an agency is they handle all the advertising, answer and screen calls at all hours, and allow you to not deal with the business side. The down side is they take 40 to 60 % of the gross.

If any agency girl is booked a few times by a regular, she may decide it is safe to bypass the agency and have him book directly. When this happens there is a lot more flexibility. She can provide twice the service and break even financially. Or give you a significant discount / hour.

Although it is possible she wants to see you socially, I would assume she is just trying to increase her profit

PLease remember never to tell the agency. They frown on being cut out of their share.

I tried to post a response and it did not work. But basically, I agree with this!

If she has not outwardly discussed the rates, I would assume she is expecting it to be the same you were paying before. It seems you like this SP enough to keep seeing her, and it seems she trusts you enough to make her one of her better clients -- if you show her you value her the same as before and are generous etc, her affection and gratitude will definitely show in service and is a huge step forward in building even more chemistry and trust between you two.

Dates don't date their dates. I have heard "stories" but never seen it for myself, and I can't imagine it happening realistically or for long term. Bad idea to get involved emotionally unless you two have discussed it over a long period of time at great lengths. But considering her a great friend, and SP, can benefit you both for a long time. It's like going to your favorite restaurant 1-2 times a month for 10 years. You may not invite the entire staff to your wedding day, but the loyalty and appreciation should become very clear.

 

[EntertainmentMan2000]

The only way to know if she is for real is if you marry her and to live with her day in and day out. It also shows that you have the courage for commitment which will be a huge turn on for girls, especially the one's in the biz.

 

[VIPhunter]

When, oh when, will boys realize that escorts are not your friends, girlfriends or wives?

Exactly. That's why I stick with strippers. They all love me.

 

[Cobster]

I'll update you buys next week

...til' then, keep lurking dude.

 

[EntertainmentMan2000]

When, oh when, will boys realize that escorts are not your friends, girlfriends or wives?

wow...first time I've seen one of your posts that actually has some substance to it

 

[legmann]

If she has not outwardly discussed the rates, I would assume she is expecting it to be the same you were paying before.

Likely, but don't be afraid to ask what she thinks is fair, given the change in 'venue'.
I did the same recently and was pleasantly surprised...

 

[Rockslinger]

Exactly. That's why I stick with strippers. They all love me.

I keep telling my strippers that I am not their boyfriend, husband, "manager", father, brother, uncle, etc. so stop asking me to pay their rent money.

 

[mrsCALoki]

Dates don't date their dates. I have heard "stories" but never seen it for myself, and I can't imagine it happening realistically or for long term.

I guess I am an example of one it happened to. You are right about long term though. After seeing him for a little over 700 hours we stopped being client/SP. Stopped 100%. And I soon discovered that being a GF is very different from being a GFE. We both seem to like being together a lot more after we ended the financial thing.

So maybe you should spend a few hundred hours with her on the clock, and then both decide if you want to go further.

 

[massman]

Meeting as a client first, then dating, is much more complicated. Still possible, but starting off with sex for money, then trying to make it real, far more than most can handle.

Go with your gut.

However, you need to establish if she is expecting "compensation", or just wants your company. I have seen this happen and the girl wanted to charge much more than she would have gotten at the agency... and I have seen some girls who just wanted company.

If she just wants company, she could be insulted if you ask her if she is expecting "payment".

It is a tightrope you are walking. Break a leg.

Agree. I have experienced something similar. A girl i see occasionally has suggested a few times that we go for dinner or drinks sometime. I never have done so (though i would very much enjoy her company out of the bedroom too) in part because of the awkwardness over whether or not it would be "on the clock". Not that i expect a "date" or anything, but she is a cool girl who i enjoy talking to, and who i think would make a great dinner companion or someone to chat with relaxing over a few cocktails. I do kind of have a rule that while i will pay for sex, i wont pay for "friendship".

 

[SofiaYork]

I guess I am an example of one it happened to. You are right about long term though. After seeing him for a little over 700 hours we stopped being client/SP. Stopped 100%. And I soon discovered that being a GF is very different from being a GFE. We both seem to like being together a lot more after we ended the financial thing.

So maybe you should spend a few hundred hours with her on the clock, and then both decide if you want to go further.

Good for you
Ive often wondered what it would be like to date a client, or possibly another SP? I think I would enjoy it/find it refreshing to be in a relationship where I can be honest and have someone who cares about me I can discuss work related issues with. Though it would have to be someone very special and understanding -- I didn't mean to say it's impossible to find -- But I guess my main point here for the gentleman was "If you don't know for sure, then expect things to remain the same." -- if she's looking for a relationship that does not involve an allowance -- she would probably tell you! =)

And re: GF vs GFE .. very true. =)

 

[Rockslinger]

Maybe Virgin John has the right idea after all. What he does is free, convenient, no risk of STI, no drama, no no show:frusty:, no "you are $40 short", no emotional attachment, no need for a hobby cellphone, not illegal (not yet anyway), etc.

 

[dave_75]

Just thought I give a quick update ...

Heading to SP's apartment in the afternoon a was a little nervous .. wasn't sure what to expect ..
When I finally arrived we were both very happy to see eachother .. spent some time catching up and she excused herself to the bathroom .. came out in a sexy lingere and we had a pretty intimate session .. one thing that I love about this girl is that she is provides a real GFE with a mix of light PSE ... spent the next few hours in bed and pretty much relaxed the afternoon away ... headed to dinner for a few hours and originally we thought of going out afterwords but decided to skip that and head back to her apartment again ... maybe the wine had something to do with it .. we were connecting on all cylenders and just wanted to head back to the apartment ... she than surprised with me with another outfit and we just couldn't keep our hands off eachother .. kinda brought me back to those 'teenager' days ..... chilled and watched a flix together and she insisted I stay the night ... Skip a few hours and another few sessions .. by this time .. I don't think I could perform anymore ... buddy down there was spent .. reasons I say this is that middle of the night she tried to engage in a 'little little something' and I just couldn't do it .. little embarassing .. however .. she was totally cool and just wanted to 'snug' and be close .... headed out for 'business' the morning and decided to visit her late afternoon .. was heading out back home till later that evening .. had 4/5 hours to kill .... unfortunately .. this is where things started turning a little strange .... hard to explain .....but she was getting emotional with me having to leave ..... kinda left me a little weary of her emotional stability to be frank .... So .. that's my story .. hope it wasn't written too poorly ..

 

[dave_75]

Forgot 1 major point .. I brought up the notion of payment .. she flatly refused this idea .. she explained that this was not a business encounter .. but she enjoyed our company ..... Perhaps .. some SP's find it difficult to have a 'steady' boyfriend/relationship .. so maybe this is her 'break' of sorts .. not too sure ..

Up until the end ... I woudn't have given second thoughts of seeing her .. right now .. not too sure .. if that is a good idea .. As hobbyist I wonder if the thrill is the chase sometimes vs the actuall experience ...

 

[mrsCALoki]

Forgot 1 major point .. I brought up the notion of payment .. she flatly refused this idea .. she explained that this was not a business encounter .. but she enjoyed our company ..... Perhaps .. some SP's find it difficult to have a 'steady' boyfriend/relationship .. so maybe this is her 'break' of sorts .. not too sure ..

Up until the end ... I woudn't have given second thoughts of seeing her .. right now .. not too sure .. if that is a good idea .. As hobbyist I wonder if the thrill is the chase sometimes vs the actuall experience ...

and your reaction is why it is so hard for us to deal with the emotional issues of letting a client get close; but it is nice to hear you had fun.

 

[dave_75]

I can see that now .. when you bring 'emotions' to the picture .. it really changes the entire landscape of things ..

and your reaction is why it is so hard for us to deal with the emotional issues of letting a client get close; but it is nice to hear you had fun.

 

[mrsCALoki]

I can see that now .. when you bring 'emotions' to the picture .. it really changes the entire landscape of things ..

A lot of women are lonely, and most SPs are women. I still remember the first time I petted a dog, my mom went ballistic and told me never ever to touch them because they would bight and hurt me. A few years later I found out a dog had hurt her when she was young. Somehow that seems to apply here.

 

[ready2rock]

I guess I am an example of one it happened to. You are right about long term though. After seeing him for a little over 700 hours we stopped being client/SP. Stopped 100%. And I soon discovered that being a GF is very different from being a GFE. We both seem to like being together a lot more after we ended the financial thing.

So maybe you should spend a few hundred hours with her on the clock, and then both decide if you want to go further.

Over 700 hours as client/SP? Wow. I was just doing the math in my head. Wow.

R2R

 

[69Shooter]

Over 700 hours as client/SP? Wow. I was just doing the math in my head. Wow.

R2R

Probably some extended trips/sleep overs.

 

[saliksalik]

Hi Everyone !

First off .. Forgive me for the low post count .. I'm more of the lurker but should start sharing my input ..

I've been a hobbyst for several years and I've had my share of bad, good and great experiences mainly with incall ladies ..

The past several months I've been on a few business trips to ** CITY** ( prefer not to say which city ) and have seen the same SP from a reliable agency.
This particular girl I connected in all facets .. emotionally, sexually etc etc ... Bravo if she provides the same service for everyone ... anyways .. she gave me her contact info and asked me to contact her directly next time I visit .. So my question is ... little bit weary .. is this a good idea or not .. she wants me to visit her place and spend the day/evening etc ...

Thanks

It is a fantasy, that sometimes comes true. I have had the rare experience and all went well. But a very recent very respectful rendezvous where we intellectually connected, became very messy after a few meetings. I was heartbroken. It is very risky and one has to be absolutely careful.