Meeting female civilians is a waste of time

[Tashki]

If it wasn't for this hobby, I would have been a frustrated, bitter and resentful incel. Before my hobbying days, I had approach anxiety. I didn't know how to talk to women, I feared rejection and I was fairly socially inept. I wanted to meet women and I thought at the time dating was the best option to meet beautiful women. So I read The Game by Neil Stratus to know how the PUA's talked to women and The Book of Pook for self-improvement. I got rejected once and I got very emotional about it. I told a buddy of mine about it and he recommended me to go to a erotic massage palour to get my mind off of her. That's how I got into hobbying.

Even during my post-hobbying days, I have always respected the idea of meeting women the traditional way and I really wanted to get my foot in the door in the dating world. Last year, I approached 80-90 women and every single one of them rejected me. I was really serious about trying this dating thing out and going after the women I wanted in the traditional way instead of staying home jerking off to Instagram models. I wanted to make my friends proud and text them "I scored a date!."

What I have learned about my rejections is that, You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. So it doesn't matter how interested you are in that woman you are pursuing or how confident you are, It is always up to woman to choose to date you because they have more power than us in terms of choosing a dating partner. Additionally, Women have a huge advantage in the sexual dating marketplace. 80% of women want the top 20% of men in the male dominate hierarchy. (https://medium.com/@worstonlinedate...ably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a). Unfortunately, I'm not in the top 20%. I can't compete. I was unable to get the women that I wanted which is why I think meeting female civilians is a waste of time, and why hobbying was the better route for me to take.

 

[canada-man]

If it wasn't for this hobby, I would have been a frustrated, bitter and resentful incel. Before my hobbying days, I had approach anxiety. I didn't know how to talk to women, I feared rejection and I was fairly socially inept. I wanted to meet women and I thought at the time dating was the best option to meet beautiful women. So I read The Game by Neil Stratus to know how the PUA's talked to women and The Book of Pook for self-improvement. I got rejected once and I got very emotional about it. I told a buddy of mine about it and he recommended me to go to a erotic massage palour to get my mind off of her. That's how I got into hobbying.

Even during my post-hobbying days, I have always respected the idea of meeting women the traditional way and I really wanted to get my foot in the door in the dating world. Last year, I approached 80-90 women and every single one of them rejected me. I was really serious about trying this dating thing out and going after the women I wanted in the traditional way instead of staying home jerking off to Instagram models. I wanted to make my friends proud and text them "I scored a date!."

What I have learned about my rejections is that, You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. So it doesn't matter how interested you are in that woman you are pursuing or how confident you are, It is always up to woman to choose to date you because they have more power than us in terms of choosing a dating partner. Additionally, Women have a huge advantage in the sexual dating marketplace. 80% of women want the top 20% of men in the male dominate hierarchy. (https://medium.com/@worstonlinedate...ably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a). Unfortunately, I'm not in the top 20%. I can't compete. I was unable to get the women that I wanted which is why I think meeting female civilians is a waste of time, and why hobbying was the better route for me to take.

You are doing something wrong.

 

[bazokajoe]

Being single isn't the end of the world. I'm 55 and never been married and couldn't be happier.Embrace being single.

 

[rhuarc29]

You are doing something wrong.

He already said he's socially inept and has social anxiety. Most women avoid those traits in a partner like the plague.

 

[SchlongConery]

.... Last year, I approached 80-90 women and every single one of them rejected me.

I was really serious about trying this dating thing out and going after the women I wanted in the traditional way instead of staying home jerking off to Instagram models. I wanted to make my friends proud and text them "I scored a date!."

80% of women want the top 20% of men in the male dominate hierarchy.

Unfortunately, I'm not in the top 20%. I can't compete. I was unable to get the women that I wanted which is why I think meeting female civilians is a waste of time, and why hobbying was the better route for me to take.

The above highlights are the reality.

What I don't get about it is why guys (incel types, not Tashki) who are trying to score women wayyyyyyy out of their league are so upset when women are only interested in guys that are handsome, successful funny and their own age etc. Why can't women aspire to be with guys who are at least in their own league, if not above also?

So many guys set their sights on "Instagram model" level of attractive of women when they are way out of their league.


What hobbying has allowed me is the luxury of enjoying meeting, interacting, socializing, dating etc and enjoying that time for what it is and enjoying the person who might otherwise only be seen as a life support system and Guardian of the Golden Pussy!

As hobbying makes it sooooo easy and inexpensive to bang red hot beautiful women, the Power of the (civillian) Pussy does not factor whatsoever into my social life. Women can smell it when a guy is on The Hunt. When you don't give off that scent, things are a whole lot different. I enjoy a women for the person she is and get to know her first before I consider her as a sexual partner, girlfriend etc.

Although I am now over 50, I am tall, fit, nice hair, dress well, have genuine confidence am interesting and successful so that does give me "access" to the higher levels of desirable women. But because of the ready access to sex that hobbying allows, I am able to be very selective on the basis of personality and how we get along etc. And with that, I find that many of the women that I have dated are somewhat unconventional in their beauty that unless I had got to know them as a person, I would not have otherwise been immediately attracted to them. But who they were made their appearance beautiful.

So maybe use hobbying as an outlet for your sexual needs and look at non-Instagram model types that might be more in your league to get to know them for who they are first.

Just my $0.02!

 

[Tashki]

He already said he's socially inept and has social anxiety. Most women avoid those traits in a partner like the plague.

Those were my pre-hobbying days. My social skills has removed remarkably since then.

 

[Tashki]

What I don't get about it is why guys (incel types, not Tashki) who are trying to score women wayyyyyyy out of their league are so upset when women are only interested in guys that are handsome, successful funny and their own age etc. Why can't women aspire to be with guys who are at least in their own league, if not above also?

So many guys set their sights on "Instagram model" level of attractive of women when they are way out of their league.

I disagree with that kind of thinking where you view women as if they are out of your league. If you keep thinking in life that things are out of your league then you start to limit your potential and that's quite nihilistic for any person to think that way about themselves.

 

[SchlongConery]

I disagree with that kind of thinking where you view women as if they are out of your league. If you keep thinking in life that things are out of your league then you start to limit your potential and that's quite nihilistic for any person to think that way about themselves.

Whatever works for you my friend. Just trying to help out.

Last year, I approached 80-90 women and every single one of them rejected me.

 

[farquhar]

Last year, I approached 80-90 women and every single one of them rejected me.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results.

80% of women want the top 20% of men in the male dominate hierarchy. Unfortunately, I'm not in the top 20%. I can't compete.

I disagree with that kind of thinking where you view women as if they are out of your league. If you keep thinking in life that things are out of your league then you start to limit your potential and that's quite nihilistic for any person to think that way about themselves.

You realize you just contradicted yourself there, Tashki. Those two statements back-to-back are like saying, "I hate carrots, but I like to drink carrot juice."

 

[barnacler]

No-one is out of your league. Just have the attitude that YOU are the league, that's all that matters.

You MUST NOT GIVE A FUCK.

 

[canada-man]

 

[curr3n_c1000]

Agreed. Chivalry is Dead.

Just focus on building yourself. Women will see the progress and then they start to choose you.

 

[barnacler]

I firmly believe that MEN are now the prize more than women.

They just don't realize it.

Yesterday I was in the gym. There was a young woman maybe 25 - 28 that was wearing WAAAAYY too much perfume. It was old-lady super-sweet perfume. I would say body-wise she was a 9 and facially an 8. The fact is I didn't care.

I just walked up to her and in earshot of others around I politely told her that the gym policy was not to wear strong perfume and I would appreciate it if she wouldn't wear it in the future.

I smiled and walked away.

I later struck up a conversation with a woman more my age. She is quite nice.

I do not care if the girl with the perfume likes me or not.

That's all that matters.

 

[likwid]

PUA model of approaching is terrible if you are not in the top looks bracket. Cold approaching close to 100 random females is just bad odds for you. Best thing I’ve heard is just pick more social hobbies and you’ll likely meet women there, even then it depends on your overall personality and you have to be non-needy. And If you’re going somewhere to meet women, it’s a form of needy-ness, trick is to do what you want to do and the “success” is not determined by fucking a woman. SPs can help with abundance mentality, so in the back of your mind you always know you can get laid on a whim.

 

[SchlongConery]

...trick is to do what you want to do and the “success” is not determined by fucking a woman. SPs can help with abundance mentality, so in the back of your mind you always know you can get laid on a whim.

Agreed. But you said it better than me!

 

[New World]

If it wasn't for this hobby, I would have been a frustrated, bitter and resentful incel. Before my hobbying days, I had approach anxiety. I didn't know how to talk to women, I feared rejection and I was fairly socially inept. I wanted to meet women and I thought at the time dating was the best option to meet beautiful women. So I read The Game by Neil Stratus to know how the PUA's talked to women and The Book of Pook for self-improvement. I got rejected once and I got very emotional about it. I told a buddy of mine about it and he recommended me to go to a erotic massage palour to get my mind off of her. That's how I got into hobbying.

Even during my post-hobbying days, I have always respected the idea of meeting women the traditional way and I really wanted to get my foot in the door in the dating world. Last year, I approached 80-90 women and every single one of them rejected me. I was really serious about trying this dating thing out and going after the women I wanted in the traditional way instead of staying home jerking off to Instagram models. I wanted to make my friends proud and text them "I scored a date!."

What I have learned about my rejections is that, You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. So it doesn't matter how interested you are in that woman you are pursuing or how confident you are, It is always up to woman to choose to date you because they have more power than us in terms of choosing a dating partner. Additionally, Women have a huge advantage in the sexual dating marketplace. 80% of women want the top 20% of men in the male dominate hierarchy. (https://medium.com/@worstonlinedate...ably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a). Unfortunately, I'm not in the top 20%. I can't compete. I was unable to get the women that I wanted which is why I think meeting female civilians is a waste of time, and why hobbying was the better route for me to take.

All women are hypergamous by nature. This will not change. Women do hold an advantage in the sexual marketplace. A very wise man gave me some incredible advice "As a Man you need to chase excellece and not chase women". Once you achieve excellence women will follow.

 

[The Oracle]

I firmly believe that MEN are now the prize more than women.

They just don't realize it.

Yesterday I was in the gym. There was a young woman maybe 25 - 28 that was wearing WAAAAYY too much perfume. It was old-lady super-sweet perfume. I would say body-wise she was a 9 and facially an 8. The fact is I didn't care.

I just walked up to her and in earshot of others around I politely told her that the gym policy was not to wear strong perfume and I would appreciate it if she wouldn't wear it in the future.

I smiled and walked away.

I later struck up a conversation with a woman more my age. She is quite nice.

I do not care if the girl with the perfume likes me or not.

That's all that matters.

That put a smile on my face...

 

[SeizeThe Day]

All women are hypergamous by nature. This will not change. Women do hold an advantage in the sexual marketplace. A very wise man gave me some incredible advice "As a Man you need to chase excellece and not chase women". Once you achieve excellence women will follow.

High-end vocabulary dude, I had to look up "hyper what-ever-the" .... But interesting sounding concept!

 

[jcpro]

When I first came here I didn't speak any English, so picking up girls outside my language group was very difficult. But, I got a car and a decent apartment and I loved hanging out in bars after school and work with my friends. And very quickly I "discovered" a secret and a system. I'd simpy introduce myself in my broken English to ANY girl that caught my fancy, ask her to dance( I can't really dance), buy'em a drink, etc. Hardly any night I left the bar empty handed. See, the young ladies are just as apprehensive about meeting us as we're of them. And in the end, if you want to get laid, all you have to do is play the numbers game and never take rejection personally. Of course, hiring a hooker really saves time and energy, especially when you get older, but, even these days, when im on my Christmas break, I still enjoy propositioning ladies. Not the really young ones, mind. But, in my own age group it's still a lot of fun and, frankly, like shooting fish in the barrel.

 

[Jasmina]

Trying to understand women through stats is probably not going to help. It isn't that complicated, view them as equals and treat them the same way you treat your male buddies. Understand that they have the same desires and drive that you do.

If it wasn't for this hobby, I would have been a frustrated, bitter and resentful incel. Before my hobbying days, I had approach anxiety. I didn't know how to talk to women, I feared rejection and I was fairly socially inept. I wanted to meet women and I thought at the time dating was the best option to meet beautiful women. So I read The Game by Neil Stratus to know how the PUA's talked to women and The Book of Pook for self-improvement. I got rejected once and I got very emotional about it. I told a buddy of mine about it and he recommended me to go to a erotic massage palour to get my mind off of her. That's how I got into hobbying.

Even during my post-hobbying days, I have always respected the idea of meeting women the traditional way and I really wanted to get my foot in the door in the dating world. Last year, I approached 80-90 women and every single one of them rejected me. I was really serious about trying this dating thing out and going after the women I wanted in the traditional way instead of staying home jerking off to Instagram models. I wanted to make my friends proud and text them "I scored a date!."

What I have learned about my rejections is that, You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. So it doesn't matter how interested you are in that woman you are pursuing or how confident you are, It is always up to woman to choose to date you because they have more power than us in terms of choosing a dating partner. Additionally, Women have a huge advantage in the sexual dating marketplace. 80% of women want the top 20% of men in the male dominate hierarchy. (https://medium.com/@worstonlinedate...ably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a). Unfortunately, I'm not in the top 20%. I can't compete. I was unable to get the women that I wanted which is why I think meeting female civilians is a waste of time, and why hobbying was the better route for me to take.