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So the question is for the ladies that offer massage sessions.what is your preference?on the one hand fs makes more money while massage is a little less work.Personally I love having that option . I hate using rubber so I never do fs. Massage sessions work out pretty good since I get a discounted session.
 
So the question is for the ladies that offer massage sessions.what is your preference?on the one hand fs makes more money while massage is a little less work.Personally I love having that option . I hate using rubber so I never do fs. Massage sessions work out pretty good since I get a discounted session.
I'm curious why you'd believe either of those was established fact, and I commend you for asking those who really know.

But to pass the time: My sense is that a half-hour at an average incall and a half-hour at a similar massage parlour still sets the customer back just about the same. Not to disparage anyone's work, my experience has been that the MPA seems to put more effort into reading and coping with her less-defined session than the SPs I've visited, who seem to have a pretty firm timetable for getting it all in — into the half-hour, that is — which has tended to make those activities seem rote and undemanding.

Or did you mean to ask only about SP's sessions (In or Out), and not consider Massage Parlours at all?
 
I meant an sp who offers a choice of full service or massage session such as jas sejour Jennifer or jaslen to name a few.
 
I don't find it hard to believe at all. I'm guessing MPAs experience larger volume. But I'm just guessing, I have no actual data to back that up.
 
No offense taken.

You pay $250 average for an hour with an sp. You pay $240 for an hour at a spa. Agencies generally take $100. Spas take $80. So a girl shoots herself in the foot.

Add in upgrades, additional tips, couples, specialty sessions, etc. Massage girls make more money.

(agencies just don't want them to know that ;) ).
 
I've often wondered about the structure. So within the $80 is the door fee? From a $240 session, MPAs walk away with $160?
 
If you're seeing someone who advertises for full service only and doesn't mention massage at all, my suggestion is to let the provider know before the session the kind of encounter you're looking for.
 
Just curious how dancers would fit into all this. More? less ? than SP or MPA. On the surface it would seem dancers make the most.
 
So the question is for the ladies that offer massage sessions.what is your preference?on the one hand fs makes more money while massage is a little less work.Personally I love having that option . I hate using rubber so I never do fs. Massage sessions work out pretty good since I get a discounted session.

Why do perceive massage to be 'less work'?

The amount of time spent is the same, the use of linens that need to be laundered is still the same. And massage clients seem to be more demanding in their 'requirements' (shower, table, technique). Saving the price of one condom is hardly a bonus. And they want a discounted rate.

Seems Fs for the time alloted is more profitable
 
No offense taken.

You pay $250 average for an hour with an sp. You pay $240 for an hour at a spa. Agencies generally take $100. Spas take $80. So a girl shoots herself in the foot.

Add in upgrades, additional tips, couples, specialty sessions, etc. Massage girls make more money.

(agencies just don't want them to know that ;) ).

So what you're saying is that your rates are too high! :biggrin1:
 
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I am not asking for a discounted rate but some ladies offer the option ,just curious as to the reasoning behind it.
Why do perceive massage to be 'less work'?

The amount of time spent is the same, the use of linens that need to be laundered is still the same. And massage clients seem to be more demanding in their 'requirements' (shower, table, technique). Saving the price of one condom is hardly a bonus. And they want a discounted rate.

Seems Fs for the time alloted is more profitable
 
No offense taken.

You pay $250 average for an hour with an sp. You pay $240 for an hour at a spa. Agencies generally take $100. Spas take $80. So a girl shoots herself in the foot.

Add in upgrades, additional tips, couples, specialty sessions, etc. Massage girls make more money.

(agencies just don't want them to know that ;) ).


If an sp is independent and charges 240 an hour and the only comparable over head she has is rent which is not even close to a hundred dollars a day much less 100 a session and then you add in the upgrades, tips. I think an sp makes substantially more. Which I think is why alot od mp end up being sps and the really good ones work for high end agencies and alot more money and there are huge perks
 
If an sp is independent and charges 240 an hour and the only comparable over head she has is rent which is not even close to a hundred dollars a day much less 100 a session and then you add in the upgrades, tips. I think an sp makes substantially more. Which I think is why alot od mp end up being sps and the really good ones work for high end agencies and alot more money and there are huge perks

Untrue. She has transportation, security, advertising, supplies, linens, website upkeep, etc to pay for. A spa provides all of that (or most). Its licensed, it's safer, it's not full service (at muse anyway). Also, for example, we have walk-ins. Better than sitting in a hotel when someone no-shows.

Huge perks at working at a spa. :)

We also offer health benefits, bonuses, etc. And so much more.
 
Untrue. She has transportation, security, advertising, supplies, linens, website upkeep, etc to pay for. A spa provides all of that (or most). Its licensed, it's safer, it's not full service (at muse anyway). Also, for example, we have walk-ins. Better than sitting in a hotel when someone no-shows.

Huge perks at working at a spa. :)

We also offer health benefits, bonuses, etc. And so much more.

+1

I spend a lot of money on my business - paying for ads, supplies, rent, second phone, photos, etc and it adds up quickly. Plus I spend lots of time on my business when I'm not actually in a session giving a massage. Time replying to emails, scheduling, placing ads, maintaining website/social media, doing laundry, buying supplies, etc. If I am in a session I can't look at my email to book more sessions, so that can mean lost income. (Or maybe gained income because I'm always present in the session never fiddling with my phone so people repeat.) ;) Though I am very happy to be an independent massage provider, it's not a surprise to me that ladies choose to work in a spa - especially if they are new to the industry or in school. Not everyone has the time, energy or desire to run their own business. It takes time to develop a client base if you're indie... at an upscale spa like Muse you're at a place that already has a good reputation and you can expect a certain level of earning right away.
 
No offense taken.

You pay $250 average for an hour with an sp. You pay $240 for an hour at a spa. Agencies generally take $100. Spas take $80. So a girl shoots herself in the foot.

Add in upgrades, additional tips, couples, specialty sessions, etc. Massage girls make more money.

(agencies just don't want them to know that ;) ).


Additional tips is a big difference in SP and MPAs besides the upgrades. I have never tip a SP more than 20 bucks but had tipped MPAs a lot more from 30 to 100 bucks depending on how she served me, how friendly she was and tip more generosily if I see the potential of seeing her off the clock.
 
A good independent sp in Toronto makes at least $400/hour