Massage and STI Risks

[stay]

How did you get tested for HPV? I read that there is no DNA HPV testing for men, only visual inspection of warts can be used to diagnose HPV. But, having no warts means no HPV. So, just curious, how you know you have HPV.

A continuation from this thread

hpv can only be detected by a pap smear.

I spoke with Brampton public health and he said that the by-law didn't pass requiring a pap smear to be done as part of the body rubber licence. So they can not do a thorough exam only suggest to the girl to get a pap smear done. He said public health can only go in on a complaint and that can't force a MPA to get a pap smear done, so it is once a year for hiv and the like with a blood test.
What is TO's policy? I will be calling to find out when I have the chance.

Having contracted HPV in a topend spa, was admittedly my fault, I assure you it is and long a painful treatment. Also if you have a SO, your F. It may take a year or two, so if you are looking to play , your F. If you meet a civie, ain't no way she be going near that thing.

I may add, scarring can happen, so the little bugger may never look the same.

I caught HPV and I can assure all that I was not engaging in sexual intercourse. I know this because I never had sexual intercourse with a MPA either in a SPA or outside of one, with or without a condom. A condom is not 100% protection against HPV

I just listen to my Doc, nice looking lady who is suggesting that she should be charging me a handling fee. LOL. She brought out the ole magnifying glass, like F-me my dick isn't that small.

WIKI

I guess everyone's eye opened up when I mentioned that it wasn't through sexual intercourse, rather junk to junk.

Maybe I should start a thread for those interested because BRP are licensed establishment and have by-laws that forbid suspect attendants working, which makes the BRP liable, as opposed to escort or independent. This was my main reason for going to MPs, I thought the risk would be greatly reduced.

 

[stay]

it sounds like you had an unfortunate mpa experience, that sucks..

do you mind giving the names of the suspects? i know we all do things when we are not thinking straight.. this has me thinking i should just stop maybe.. any info would be appreciated.

thanks

First and foremost, that is not how I work. It really isn't about who, rather there is a risk involved and it isn't up to me. If I multiplied by 2, the member list that I pm with is less than the fingers on one hand. The reason is because I don't seek certain services

I am not sure when I contracted the virus, I know that I was infected by one and may have passed it on to another three. The proper thing to do is inform the health department and provide the info.

 

[Northerner12]

There are definately risks with the hobby - your both naked close to one another - you could have HPV on your hands - and pass it around - the virus is not that specific, it just prefers to grow downstairs- it doesn't mean its the only spot. - Neither does herpes btw - you can get it anywhere - Herpes glatorious I believe is what its referred to when it grows outside the lip/genetal region. A rugby buddy of mine got it on his shoulder after what I can only assume was close contact in a match from an infected dudes mouth (I doubt was junk to shoulder - but you never know with rugby guys).

Point is, - infected chic + your leg = chance at herpes on your leg.... or other spots

Its a risk.

Cheers

 

[stay]

There are definately risks with the hobby - your both naked close to one another - you could have HPV on your hands

link to info

My doc says that it is from genital to genital contact, not necessarily intercourse. But what does she know, she only works in a sexual health clinic.

The point is that although it is a by-law that forbids MPAs who have ANY infection to work, MP do not ensure that this is practised.

 

[eddie1]

What is BRP and what do you mean by "junk to junk"?

 

[Butler1000]

What is BRP and what do you mean by "junk to junk"?

Body Rub Parlour

Junk is a slang term for genetalia.

 

[MPAsquared]

Ummm, or how about don't do bareback pussyslides! Duh!

And as for your big bylaw claim, that's false. Ladies are required to have a medical check for communicable diseases in order to receive their license. Beyond that, it's up to the lady and spa to maintain her own health. (For example, Muses get tested every 2 months).

Hardly fair to blame an industry for your own lack of self control, common sense, and restraint. If you pussyslide, you risk it all. Exactly the same as bareback sex.

And lastly, no Dr can tell u it was genital to genital contact that got you hpv. Just like they can't tell what position a lady was in when she conceived or it was kissing Frank on Tuesday that gave you ebola. Hpv can be dormant for years & years. Just like herpes. So you could have gotten it anywhere from anyone. Sexual or otherwise. Kids catch meningitis "the kissing disease" not just from kissing.

Folks, do your std research! You are responsible for your own health as you hobby. Never let anyone else's poor choices fog your priorities or judgment.

Get tested. Often. Practice safe sex practices. Protect ur junk.

 

[stay]

And lastly, no Dr can tell u it was genital to genital contact that got you hpv.

Over 130 types of HPV have been identified, and more than 40 of those strains are sexually transmitted through intercourse, genital skin-to-skin touching or oral sex.

Source

Sorry, but the Dr. works in a Sexual Health Clinic

 

[stay]

Ummm, or how about don't do bareback pussyslides! Duh!

And as for your big bylaw claim, that's false. Ladies are required to have a medical check for communicable diseases in order to receive their license. Beyond that, it's up to the lady and spa to maintain her own health. (For example, Muses get tested every 2 months).

So if the spa is informed of a possible infection.... What is done?

Do the ladies get PAP smear test done?

What about HIV, is that up to the lady, I don't think you would find 1 member that would agree.

Toronto

Brampton

Hardly fair to blame an industry for your own lack of self control, common sense, and restraint. If you pussyslide, you risk it all. Exactly the same as bareback sex.

I agree, the MPA and customer has to have self control, common sense, and restraint. I hope you are not trying to deflect blame on the customer only. The incentive for the lady is $$$ and repeat. I certainly take my 50% of the blame, lets see about the other half.

 

[lomotil]

Ummm, or how about don't do bareback pussyslides! Duh!

And as for your big bylaw claim, that's false. Ladies are required to have a medical check for communicable diseases in order to receive their license. Beyond that, it's up to the lady and spa to maintain her own health. (For example, Muses get tested every 2 months).

Hardly fair to blame an industry for your own lack of self control, common sense, and restraint. If you pussyslide, you risk it all. Exactly the same as bareback sex.

And lastly, no Dr can tell u it was genital to genital contact that got you hpv. Just like they can't tell what position a lady was in when she conceived or it was kissing Frank on Tuesday that gave you ebola. Hpv can be dormant for years & years. Just like herpes. So you could have gotten it anywhere from anyone. Sexual or otherwise. Kids catch meningitis "the kissing disease" not just from kissing.

Folks, do your std research! You are responsible for your own health as you hobby. Never let anyone else's poor choices fog your priorities or judgment.

Get tested. Often. Practice safe sex practices. Protect ur junk.

Mono is the kissing disease not meningitis.

 

[MPAsquared]

Menengitis is passed thru saliva. Sheesh.

Yes it takes 2 to tango. Duh. What about all of that? Is a pap required for a license? No. Do girls get paps? Yes. Hate to rain on your ego but we want vaginal health for a lot more than your sake lol. As much as any girl loves her clients most love their vagina &reproductive organs more.

Do u know how many times a hobbyist who joined in like 2002 with about 10,000 posts & hardcore hobbying post basic health questions here? Like "can I catch something if the condom breaks?" or "ive been hobbying for 10yrs & never been tested, should I worry?" etc. It's frightening.

It's up to each individual to keep their junk clean. Period. All the rules & common sense in the world won't change folks who don't care.

I've never met anyone in the industry who's ever caught anything. My opinion would be that if it's cureable, you can't work til it's gone. And if it's not cureable then you can't work ever. In the sex trade, your bits are your tools. A carpenter can't work with a broken saw. A goalie can't goaltend with a broken stick. Keep you parts protected & healthy.

 

[stay]

Is a pap required for a license? No. Do girls get paps? Yes. Hate to rain on your ego but we want vaginal health for a lot more than your sake lol. As much as any girl loves her clients most love their vagina &reproductive organs more.

HPV can only be detected by a pap smear
you can't get tested in a sexual health clinic, so every 2 months the girls get tested except for hpv, So how often for HPV? Do tell?

Not my ego. Here is the story, maybe you would be surprised. So upon being informed of a possible infection, an owner ( like yourself ) is not interested in making sure the suspect girls are healthy ( still on schedule ). This isn't about my ego, this isn't about me. This is about the customers and yes, more importantly all the ladies in the industry. If your original comments are true that HPV can be passed anyhow, doesn't it concern you that there is a possible infection out there with nothing being done. Is it not shocking that a top tier spa doesn't make sure that her asset ( and possible liability by-law ) is more concerned about making money than the well being of all the MPAs and customers.
I don't even want to think about reputable agencies when I read the thread about showering.

It's up to each individual to keep their junk clean. Period. All the rules & common sense in the world won't change folks who don't care.

Yes and it is up to the government to ensure that is being done if the industry can't do it themselves.

I've never met anyone in the industry who's ever caught anything.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Although we have never met, I would suspect that there are others that have contracted the infection ( there is an accusation that someone else contracted a STI from one of the girls I encountered ), but I guess you know me in a way. I'm not one that buries his head in the sand, rather I am brutally honest and just a tad mouthy.

My opinion would be that if it's cureable, you can't work til it's gone. And if it's not cureable then you can't work ever.

On this, I agree. Maybe we should work together to ensure that is being done.