Mark Carney DID apologize to President Trump over the anti Tariff ad.

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Short-term pain for long term gain, sometimes you need to take hard decisions. And if you thought it was prudent, why did he put them on in the first place?
Just bent the knee, nothing to do with looking after Canadian's interest. Some inflation is likely better than sever recession, which we aren't far away from as the jobs slip away.
He is doing fine? lol, didn't he say he'd have a deal in July? Not sure that is fine, but hey, you'll twist yourself into a pretzel to find some sort of explanation.
What long term gain? There is clearly no long term gain due to tariffs as the US is finding out too.
And regardless of why he put it on, a government is entitled to reverse course.
So no, he did not bend the knee. If he had, we'd have a deal by now.
And to make a deal you need the other side to be reasonable too.
But Trump is anything but reasonable.
So we have a stalemate with the US as we try to expand bilateral trade with other nations, which Carney is doing.
The point is your glorified sloganeer would have done jack shit about this or would have even known jack squat about what to do in such a situation.
Considering the circumstances, Carney is doing a fine, which is why his approval rating remains close to 60%.
 
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What long term gain? There is clearly no long term gain due to tariffs as the US is finding out too.
And regardless of why he put it on, a government is entitled to reverse course.
So no, he did not bend the knee. If he had, we'd have a deal by now.
And to make a deal you need the other side to be reasonable too.
But Trump is anything but reasonable.
So we have a stalemate with the US as we try to expand bilateral trade with other nations, which Carney is doing.
The point is your glorified sloganeer would have done jack shit about this or would have even known jack squat about what to do in such a situation.
Considering the circumstances, Carney is doing a fine, which is why his approval rating remains close to 60%.
So Canadians are happy with a PM that is going around the world, so called building relationships, but basically getting nothing done, meanwhile 4 of the last 5 months have seen negative GDP, even Trudeau was growing the economy better than this. Btw, the Trump team seems to be getting deals done with other countries, guess they are all bending the knee.. or being reaosnable. As to Carney's approval rating, on the heals of the bar set by Trudeau, guess no one should be surprised.

Right now the long-term gain is companies moving manufacturing to the US, as well as some corporate headquarters, like Carney did with Brookfield, even though he claims otherwise. He knew where to be.
 
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So Canadians are happy with a PM that is going around the world, so called building relationships, but basically getting nothing done, meanwhile 4 of the last 5 months have seen negative GDP, even Trudeau was growing the economy better than this. Btw, the Trump team seems to be getting deals done with other countries, guess they are all bending the knee.. or being reaosnable. As to Carney's approval rating, on the heals of the bar set by Trudeau, guess no one should be surprised.

Right now the long-term gain is companies moving manufacturing to the US, as well as some corporate headquarters, like Carney did with Brookfield, even though he claims otherwise. He knew where to be.
Yes, Canadians are happy with Carney considering the circumstances as I explained.
And what deals is Trump getting done?
Just performative "commitments" and nobel prize nominations and other humiliating actions by countries just to appease the retard.
You want Canada to do that?
No. As you said, short term pain for long term gain.
Long term gain is in improving bilateral trade with other nations, diversifying trade and that is what Carney is doing, and those things don't transpire in just a few months.
 
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Yes, Canadians are happy with Carney considering the circumstances as I explained.
And what deals is Trump getting done?
Just performative "commitments" and nobel prize nominations and other humiliating actions by countries just to appease the retard.
You want Canada to do that?
No. As you said, short term pain for long term gain.
Long term gain is in improving bilateral trade with other nations, diversifying trade and that is what Carney is doing, and those things don't transpire in just a few months.
So basically you are happy with nothing, just some potential improvement with other countries. We are almost 80% reliant on the US for exports, that ain't being replaced with some potential improvement in trade with other countries, even a small part. Just smoke and mirrors. I was optimistic that Carney was going to be a strong leader, but to date, it is disappointment, but guess you Liberals will cling to anything.
 
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He offered Orange many an apology but he is not allowing his ego to get in the way of what is best for the nation. He did a great job at APEC. Fuck Trump.
 

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Everyone signed a shit deal, Canada already has the best deal, so why sign a worse deal that opens us up to even more abuse in the CUSMA negotiations. Canadian trade officials have done very well in the past. One of the KEY principals of good negotiating, is to understand who's clock is ticking the loudest.
 

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So basically you are happy with nothing, just some potential improvement with other countries. We are almost 80% reliant on the US for exports, that ain't being replaced with some potential improvement in trade with other countries, even a small part. Just smoke and mirrors. I was optimistic that Carney was going to be a strong leader, but to date, it is disappointment, but guess you Liberals will cling to anything.
Expansion of bilateral trade with other countries is not nothing. It's a huge diversion and change.
And yes, it is precisely the fact that we are 80% dependent on the US for exports, that we need the expansion of bilateral trade, so we can reverse our current predicament in the long run.
What you are asking for, is for a weak leader, who would kowtow to Trump, and bend over for him.
What you are getting is a strong leader, who isn't bending to Trump, and instead is prepared to pursue the harder path of expanding trade with other nations.
 
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I agree and support Dofo as well. Time to stand up to ignorant idiot bully Trump.

I would have prefer that Carney did not back down either but really it's ok. A lot of the american population supports canada because the lies of Trump are simply too strong.

Trump looks so weak and flaky in this whole thing.
What took you so long, Ricehag, to add your LOL smiley to my post? For a moment I thought my post was wrong.
 
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Carney says he told DoFo not to air the ads.
DoFo won't stay in his lane and wants to play captain canada.

LOL..Carney throws Ford under the bus...So much for the bromance.

Carney is basically bending the knee where Ford is standing up and swinging.

Hmmm...Leftists going have a hard time reconciling this one after that ''elbows up'' slogan ran campaign they just got elected on.

Let's see if Carney's soft apologetic approach works or if Trump sees it as a sign of weakness and takes an even harder line with Canada.
 
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LOL..Carney throws Ford under the bus...So much for the bromance.

Carney is basically bending the knee where Ford is standing up and swinging.

Hmmm...Leftists going have a hard time reconciling this one after that ''elbows up'' slogan ran campaign they just got elected on.

Let's see if Carney's soft apologetic approach works or if Trump sees it as a sign of weakness and takes an even harder line with Canada.
DoFo's move gave Canada an extra 10% in tariffs.
You think that was standing up and swinging?
 
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DoFo's move gave Canada an extra 10% in tariffs.
You think that was standing up and swinging?
Dofo is partially to blame...you obsessed on one party to be responsible for everything and usually it's the wrong one...except for this one...dofo and marktbmark are both in on this. 🤣 🤣 🤣
 
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DoFo's move gave Canada an extra 10% in tariffs.
You think that was standing up and swinging?
The extra 10% hasn't yet been done, and because of Carney's apology, I suspect they won't be, but instead, within a week or so, I would bet Ory's left testicle and Ritchie's little tiny Rich negotiations will restart.
 
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Carney realizes that Trump is a childish, vindictive idiot, so he is giving the nice guy approach a shot. Eventually he'll declare that we need a tougher approach ( if Trump doesn't snap out of it with the manifest destiny through economic war tactics). Or maybe he's waiting for Trump to die or be removed due to insanity, or impeachment and jailed for his multitude of crimes. Either way, he's much better than PP.
 
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Carney realizes that Trump is a childish, vindictive idiot, so he is giving the nice guy approach a shot. Eventually he'll declare that we need a tougher approach ( if Trump doesn't snap out of it with the manifest destiny through economic war tactics). Or maybe he's waiting for Trump to die or be removed due to insanity, or impeachment and jailed for his multitude of crimes. Either way, he's much better than PP.
PP did not talk tough on Trump like Carney during the election. Is that
what makes Carney much better?

That being said, I actually don't see anything wrong with Carney
making an effort to negotiate a better deal with Trump. The apology
to Trunp is for good measure not bending knees to him.

In an imagined scenario of my bulldog picked up the scent of
a colossal jerk strolling by my house who turned out to be
Trump; I would apologize to Trump for being barked at from
inside my house. I was just trying to be a civil neighbor
not bending knees.


The $75 million wasted on the anti-tariff ad is what warrants an apology.
 
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Carney realizes that Trump is a childish, vindictive idiot, so he is giving the nice guy approach a shot. Eventually he'll declare that we need a tougher approach ( if Trump doesn't snap out of it with the manifest destiny through economic war tactics). Or maybe he's waiting for Trump to die or be removed due to insanity, or impeachment and jailed for his multitude of crimes. Either way, he's much better than PP.
trump's brain is mush, the best plan is to stand back and watch him implode.
 
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