Marijuana Plants

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Once marijuana is legal will the general public be able to buy starter plants similar to how you see stores selling tomato plants?

Seeds are available on line but they are quite expensive and probably hit and miss if they actually germinate.
 
I imagine probably. I wouldn’t get too excited if you live in a condo, though. Tons of condo boards are already preemptively banning the growth and cultivation (and in many cases, usage) of marijuana in their buildings.
 
I would think you would be able to buy indoor hdyroponics kits that are low maintenance and meant for one plant or so so that your growing would not likely be detected.

Surely somebody has this product?
 
Grimnul said:
I imagine probably. I wouldn’t get too excited if you live in a condo, though. Tons of condo boards are already preemptively banning the growth and cultivation (and in many cases, usage) of marijuana in their buildings.
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The growing plants stink, so noxious odours that bother the neighbours are a problem for the owners of the building who have to ensure a clean air quality.
Add to the mix ,increased hydro costs for the landlord & if several plants are being grown the very real problem of mould.
In your own private house, go for it as the problems are all yours to fix.
If you rent or are in a condo, then you are making a lot of problems for the owners.
 
Ref said:
Once marijuana is legal will the general public be able to buy starter plants similar to how you see stores selling tomato plants?

Seeds are available on line but they are quite expensive and probably hit and miss if they actually germinate.
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Interesting question. I’m concerned that this hasn’t been announced. I imagine that’s because it’s not going to be popular for anyone who plans on patronizing a government store - especially in an election year.

It seems strange that the OCRC would sell clones (it’s why the LCBO doesn’t sell yeast, barley, malts and hops). And it’s not only Canopy who have said it’s impractical. Since all cannabis products go through the OCRC, they’ll need to grow their own that’ll need to be pretty close to retail stores, or charge RX prices ($75/clone) to do it right. No big name producer has announced plans to produce clones, as-far as I can tell.

It’d be nice to be able to buy clones at, say Canadian Tire, but I don’t get the impression that will be at-all a legal possibility.

You can personally grow 4, I believe, so maybe bold farmers at farmer’s markets will keep a few under the table. Otherwise, I think it’s the even greyer market. It’s possible there will be exceptions for the cannabis markets. Are they still happening?

So, I think it’s legal to buy plants, but if it’s not OCRC selling them, which they probably won’t, it’s illegal to sell.
 
Oh, I’m aware. There are definitely legitimate reasons why growing it could be problematic in a condo. I was just saying.

I am a little bit annoyed about so many buildings banning use. I can understand making an argument for the smoke being a nuisance to other residents, but in my new building, for example, they’ve banned smoking it everywhere, including on our balconies, but tobacco smoke is allowed. I could sit in my unit smoking cigars all day and that’s fine. A little weed, though? Not allowed! I don’t even smoke weed, but it just seems like the board being puritanical and inconsistent in their rules.
 
Ref said:
Once marijuana is legal will the general public be able to buy starter plants similar to how you see stores selling tomato plants?

Seeds are available on line but they are quite expensive and probably hit and miss if they actually germinate.
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Emery's seeds are very popular and good quality, they will germinate.

This make take time to develop, but you can get a clipping from a known good plant and it will root, growing the same strain of the plant.

I don't know if growing is that efficient, it takes a while for them to grow and if you're a smoker a few plants are not enough.
 
Ref said:
Once marijuana is legal will the general public be able to buy starter plants similar to how you see stores selling tomato plants?

Seeds are available on line but they are quite expensive and probably hit and miss if they actually germinate.
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If it is at all like tobacco, there would be a limit as to how much for personal consumption could be cultivated. Ten kilos is, I believe, per year the tobacco limit for personal consumption, if I recall. I woudl not be surprised if the limit is similar to tobacco, if the government takes a similar regulatory stance.
 
shakenbake said:
If it is at all like tobacco, there would be a limit as to how much for personal consumption could be cultivated. Ten kilos is, I believe, per year the tobacco limit for personal consumption, if I recall. I woudl not be surprised if the limit is similar to tobacco, if the government takes a similar regulatory stance.
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Fifteen kilos of tobacco, but 15 kilos of weed is a lot. Who smokes a kilo a month, that's more than an once a day LOL
 
Grimnul said:
Oh, I’m aware. There are definitely legitimate reasons why growing it could be problematic in a condo. I was just saying.

I am a little bit annoyed about so many buildings banning use. I can understand making an argument for the smoke being a nuisance to other residents, but in my new building, for example, they’ve banned smoking it everywhere, including on our balconies, but tobacco smoke is allowed. I could sit in my unit smoking cigars all day and that’s fine. A little weed, though? Not allowed! I don’t even smoke weed, but it just seems like the board being puritanical and inconsistent in their rules.
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Not true.
Actually if the neighbouring units complain about cigarette or cigar smoke/odours the landlords have to try to seal the units.
This is very difficult & expensive.
 
shakenbake said:
If it is at all like tobacco, there would be a limit as to how much for personal consumption could be cultivated. Ten kilos is, I believe, per year the tobacco limit for personal consumption, if I recall. I woudl not be surprised if the limit is similar to tobacco, if the government takes a similar regulatory stance.
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The stance has already been announced.

4-plants for personal-use for everyone over 19 living in Ontario.

But OCRC will need to sell you clones unless you germinate seeds yourselves or you get clones mailed from out of province, assuming at-least one province allows clone sales.

So-far the OCRC hasn’t said if they’ll be running a garden centre, and none of the big growers have announced plans to sell clones.
 
AJstar said:
Not true.
Actually if the neighbouring units complain about cigarette or cigar smoke/odours the landlords have to try to seal the units.
This is very difficult & expensive.
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Yes, but my point is that there’s no rule against tobacco in my building but there is one restricting weed. It’s inconsistent. They should ban both or neither. The fact that they only banned the one makes it seem like they’re just being puritanical.
 
Does not the THC content need controls?

On that front I am eligible for medical smoke but dislike getting high and no supplier has 0 THC


The issue is with so many active ingredients they are uncertain of the correct combination and always include some THC under the assumption it is necessary


Another issue is caught driving while smoking they have no way to measure the THC
 
Grimnul said:
Yes, but my point is that there’s no rule against tobacco in my building but there is one restricting weed. It’s inconsistent. They should ban both or neither. The fact that they only banned the one makes it seem like they’re just being puritanical.
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And they've banned the one that's the least harmful. Idiots!


Zoot Allures said:
Does not the THC content need controls?

On that front I am eligible for medical smoke but dislike getting high and no supplier has 0 THC
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That's not true. You can buy strains of weed with an average ratio of 24:1 CBD/THC. CBD lacks the stoney side effects typical of high-THC strains. You can also buy CBD gummies (edibles) that are packed with CBD goodness. They are 100% all-natural, and do not contain any THC.
 
Zoot Allures said:
Does not the THC content need controls?

On that front I am eligible for medical smoke but dislike getting high and no supplier has 0 THC


The issue is with so many active ingredients they are uncertain of the correct combination and always include some THC under the assumption it is necessary


Another issue is caught driving while smoking they have no way to measure the THC
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I saw at the flea market someone selling CBD oil claimed it was THC free. Which I doubt it to be 100% free but very low probably.
 
GameBoy27 said:
Lots of CBD products are 100% THC free.
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I had friends get CBD on line and they claimed it was thc free, but they had to stop as the thc was giving them a panic attack. Are they shops that sell it in TO, as the chick at the flea market disappeared.
 
FWIW in the Netherlands stores that sell hydroponic equipment also sell clones. It's a grey area there (as one is not allowed to have too many plants, and clones are plants). If the market works similarly, we will soon see clones for sale here.
 
germinating seeds is very easy. if you do it properly you can get close to 100% success rate. most seed vendors have instructions and typically will replace seeds if they do not germinate but as long as you follow their method supplied. once you get a seed germinated and let it veg for a couple of months, you can cut clones. its a pretty simple process. there are loads of books and websites on how to grow.

you can also purchase feminized seeds. there are also seed vendors which sell multi strain packs. greenhouse seeds does this. seeds a fairly cheap @ $10 to 20 per seed dependent on strain.

its as easy as growing tomatos :)
 
Grimnul said:
Oh, I’m aware. There are definitely legitimate reasons why growing it could be problematic in a condo. I was just saying.

I am a little bit annoyed about so many buildings banning use. I can understand making an argument for the smoke being a nuisance to other residents, but in my new building, for example, they’ve banned smoking it everywhere, including on our balconies, but tobacco smoke is allowed. I could sit in my unit smoking cigars all day and that’s fine. A little weed, though? Not allowed! I don’t even smoke weed, but it just seems like the board being puritanical and inconsistent in their rules.
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What about vaping or edibles? No stink there...
 
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