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Marco Muzzo now has a fifth victim from his 2015 drunken car crash...

Y_Diner

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God bless the Lake family.
RIP

To those that seem to be supporting Muzzo on this thread, let it be.
Like trying to have a discussion with Trump / Ford supporters.
 
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black booty lover

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It's easier to blame someone else for your problems. I get it.
So your telling me someone that's born in extreme poverty or dysfunctional family has it the same as someone that's born into well or a loving family? Just two very different situations right there that may cause two people different people to live life completely different and effect their life choices.

Just two examples. Should I continue?
 
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Edward Lake, father of three children killed by Marco Muzzo, dies

By Meredith Bond
Posted Jun 20, 2022, 5:36PM EDT.
Last Updated Jun 20, 2022, 7:02PM EDT.
Edward Lake, the father of three children killed by drunk driver Marco Muzzo in 2015, has died by suicide.
His children, nine-year-old Daniel Neville-Lake, his five-year-old brother Harrison, their two-year-old sister Milly and the children’s 65-year-old grandfather, Gary Neville, were killed in the September 2015 crash in Vaughan.
Muzzo was the driver, sentenced to 10 years in prison in 2016 after pleading guilty to four counts of impaired driving causing death and two of impaired driving causing bodily harm.
At Muzzo’s sentencing hearing,Edward said in a statement that he had suffered from suicidal thoughts and intense anxiety since the crash, and the loss has affected his marriage.
Muzzo was granted full parole on Feb. 9, 2021 despite devastating impact statements from the Neville-Lake family.
Both Edward and the childrens’ mother Jennifer Neville-Lake had urged the board to not grant Muzzo parole, saying he has not truly taken responsibility or shown remorse for his actions.
They had also urged the board to require him to live in a different province should he be granted parole.
“He scares me. The thought of him being out on the street frightens me greatly. I get panicked and anxious thinking about him,” Jennifer told the board at the time of hearing.
Part of his parole conditions required him avoid the victim’s families and not to reside in York Region where the crash occurred or Brampton where the Lakes live.

Jennifer shared a post on Twitter Sunday on Father’s Day with a photo of the children’s gravestone with a tweet that said, “Father’s Day 2022. This shouldn’t be real. It can’t be.”

Jennifer also tweeted that the family is also currently engaged in an ongoing civil suit against the Muzzo family.
Sad news
 
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K Douglas

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Very sad story, I think the husband suffered of some issues before. But after 7 years I don't feel Muzzo is responsabile.
I disagree. The man lost his 3 kids because of Muzzo. It also placed tremendous strain on his marriage, in essence 'losing' his wife.
 

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So your telling me someone that's born in extreme poverty or dysfunctional family has it the same as someone that's born into well or a loving family? Just two very different situations right there that may cause two people different people to live life completely different and effect their life choices.

Just two examples. Should I continue?
Of course not. I was responding to your post about drunk drivers, alcoholics and drug addicts. They had/have a choice. We have free will. You can bend and succumb to external pressure, or you can resist. It does depend on your strength of character, however.
 

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So we should just legalize all drugs then and throw our hands up in the air??? Bravo! Your a genius. :rolleyes:
I suggest that you learn the difference between 'your' and 'you're' before you use 'genius' in a sentence. And you obviously didn't understand what I said because addiction has nothing to do with whether or not something is legal.
 
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What I find interesting is that we hold a person like Muzzo responsible for his actions and judgments while he is impaired by alcohol, and rightly so.
However, if a Woman gets herself blitzed out of her mind drunk, and then agrees to sleep with a guy, and wakes up regretting it the next day. She is not held responsible for her actions and judgment while impaired by alcohol. Instead it is the guy who is held responsible and charged with Rape.

So, I'm confused. Are people legally responsible for their actions and judgments while impaired by alcohol or not?
 

black booty lover

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I suggest that you learn the difference between 'your' and 'you're' before you use 'genius' in a sentence. And you obviously didn't understand what I said because addiction has nothing to do with whether or not something is legal.
Haha! Okay buddy.

and my point was that there’s a mind altering drug that’s addictive, that is legal and should be a topic of conversation.

Got it captain spellcheck?
 
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richaceg

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There will always burglars in the world but we don't encourage it by not locking our doors.

My point is that there's a bigger problem at hand here, but it gets swept under the rug because as a society we accepted the fact that alcohol is legal, and to many people enjoy this drug so nobody is interested in changing it to make it illegal.
I think the "slap on the wrist" punishment for offenders IS the problem...it one good reason why rich kids still race on the streets, drivers like muzzo still drive even when intoxicated and fast and furious fans are doing donuts in parking lots...the punishment does not fit the crime...
 

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I think the "slap on the wrist" punishment for offenders IS the problem...it one good reason why rich kids still race on the streets, drivers like muzzo still drive even when intoxicated and fast and furious fans are doing donuts in parking lots...the punishment does not fit the crime...

In certain situations I think street racing should be more punishable then drunk driving. At least with some drunk drivers, they're trying to be careful. They just had one to many and no longer sound of mind to make the right choice. The intent isn't bad. With street racers, they are sober and make a bad choice, and the outcome is just as dangerous but yet they get off easier.
 

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Of course not. I was responding to your post about drunk drivers, alcoholics and drug addicts. They had/have a choice. We have free will. You can bend and succumb to external pressure, or you can resist. It does depend on your strength of character, however.

And sometimes it doesn't. So it's a moot point.
 

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It is a shame that his grandpa, who died early from cancer at age 73 in 2005 had not been around longer to influence his name sake.
The Grandpa Marco was a driven land developer, who was always ahead of the curve of what other builders were doing. He was fair and honest.
He would have instilled more responsibility into Marco the younger and not hesitated to personally kick his ass and tell him that you do not do things to lessen the family name.

Early in my career I worked designing power for new roads where his new houses were being built. It was in a busy time in the very early 90's.
He would dig the holes for the house foundations, a whole street at a time, save the ones they would build later as intentional fire breaks.

He would be in meetings with the local power authorities where we would be getting plans signed off.
He would routinely award provisional power servicing contracts for the power contractor guys who installed the transformers and street lighting and cable systems I designed, in advance of plans approval.
Get the long delivery materials on order, then final the quantities once the plans were approved.
Then stage the approved plans to get just enough built to not have too much money out front ahead of closing the houses.

One job needed a sectionalizing switchgear, which had long lead times- like 54 weeks. They were slightly customized to each authorities requirements.
The distribution authority thought they finally had caught him without being prepared. All the basements had just been formed and concrete poured.

Wrong. He knew these were needed whenever a 200A circuit was loaded up, and you needed to tie it to a 600A circuit to inject more power.

He had paid 80% of the full price in advance to the OEM. They had the gear built. The steel can with all of the options for either Vaughan, Mississauga or a few other places cut in , and then just install blanker plates on all the holes. Once the place the gear was needed was identified pull the blankers to create holes you needed, powder coat spray the right grey or shade of green paint and bake it on. All of the guts were already made up and in crates ready to go.

So Marco said to the approving engineer that he should have the gear ready and in in 12 weeks.
He had to. He had closings in 14 weeks, and said there would be folks moved in and curtains on the windows in 15 weeks.
And when Marco said he would do something, you never doubted him.

If Marco was still alive later than when he passed and had said he was going to straighten out his uppity grand son you damn well knew it was going to happen.

After that first one the OEM started to build all the units that way whenever their steel fab shop and their storage yard had capacity.
It was just the smarter way to do things.
They could often sell the partially built ones at a premium for those who needed faster delivery.
 
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