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Good point but the bars had to close at 1:00 am. By the way, did you notice the bars being packed in 1971 with the age change?
Yes,prior to that we would drive to Buffalo and NF New York where the drinking age was 19 there and 21 up here. Also remember that women in Ontario were not allowed to go into bars without a male escort, hence there entrance was marked Ladies and Escorts only.
 
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Well, for 83 and this active, thats fucking amazing!
Thanks to genetics, my father looked much younger than his age and luckily, so do I. That is not to say I have no issues, as I do suffer from osteo arthritis of the lower spine and am always in pain and some other minor issues, I do not try to over extend myself. The best part is I do visit a semi legit massage spa about once a month and the girls treat me great. Sorry, I am keeping the place a secret. However, once I am questioned about my age, I will stop going.
 
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I have lived in this city for 80 years, remember when it was called Toronto The Good, in the 50s, 60s, and early 70s, it was the rock n roll capital of North America with the best nightclubs and bars featuring some of the best musicians and bands. But no you are right it is now a Big Shit Hole.
The bar/club scene in the 90s was amazing in Toronto, I'm pretty confident I read that per capita, Toronto had the most clubs in North America, we're talking over a hundred. For me it's so bittersweet because I got to enjoy them, but those days are gone now, amazing, amazing days, the cheap drinks, the gorgeous women, just perfect. My buddies and I gravitated towards the Energy 108, Z103 crowd, Euro-dance stuff, but we also hit stuff out of our comfort zone, Industry Night Club was one of them, but fuck me that place was amazing for rap and R&B, imagine 2 white dudes going in there? lol But zero problems the crowd was great and some guys bought us a few rounds because we stood out I guess. lol


https://www.reddit.com/r/askTO/comments/np4r3q
The names of the clubs in this list bring back so many memories, forgot a few of the names. lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/askTO/comments/tjppgd
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The bar/club scene in the 90s was amazing in Toronto, I'm pretty confident I read that per capita, Toronto had the most clubs in North America, we're talking over a hundred. For me it's so bittersweet because I got to enjoy them, but those days are gone now, amazing, amazing days, the cheap drinks, the gorgeous women, just perfect.
I’ve been everywhere in the world pretty much, and Toronto night life and music festival scene is still top tier (you need to know where to go though) — it’s pretty much the only good thing about Toronto aside from food. Our art scene is absolute trash lmao
 
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I’ve been everywhere in the world pretty much, and Toronto night life and music festival scene is still top tier (you need to know where to go though) — it’s pretty much the only good thing about Toronto aside from food. Our art scene is absolute trash lmao
Pshhh, nothing will match Toronto's 90s club scene, naaathing. I'm sure it's good, it just won't ever be as great as it was, I hate this saying but, if you know, you know.
Art scene? I'm sure we had that and it was probably great, I just never went. 😅 The club scene was massive and overwhelming, it took over our lives.
 
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I have lived in this city for 80 years, remember when it was called Toronto The Good, in the 50s, 60s, and early 70s, it was the rock n roll capital of North America with the best nightclubs and bars featuring some of the best musicians and bands. But no you are right it is now a Big Shit Hole.
What lovely rose coloured glasses you are wearing.

Hog town was a boring pristine throw back from the Victorian era. Drinking (if you were in a part of Toronto that permitted it) was strictly regulated. Drinking hours were restricted except for one international event because Torontonians couldn't handle alcohol. Montreal was by far the most International renown Canadian city for partying. I knew American businessmen that would bypass Toronto for Montreal because of their 'love of life' style. Toronto the 'Good' was a boring WASP enclave that worshipped the 'Leave it to Beaver' family value set. Sundays was a ghost town for visiting singles.

Strip joints are a good barometer how far we have come from that '50s, 60s, and early 70s' era you wish to go back to. In puritan Toronto - any woman working as a stripper was the lowest of the low and strip clubs despicable dens of evil. They were dark boring dirty little bars with tattooed, drugged out bike chicks as strippers. I'm a 4/5 generation Canadian - I was so happy when more Europeans immigrated into Toronto to help convert this city into an international venue and slowly wrestled control away from Victorian morons controlling the city. Kudos to Spiro & Terry for opening the House of Lancaster with topless waitresses and then fighting for the liberties of mature men and women to make their own choices. The topless waitresses didn't last but he fought every regulation tossed at him. One article of clothing must remain on the dancer (they wanted topless only - pussies would initiate city wide rapes) - so HOL dancers alternated between tops and bottoms. Back to court to make bottoms mandatory and HOL had the dancers tied their panties to their ankles. The court battles wore on and slowly we (Toronto) gained more freedom. I will point out that strippers who were hot GND types had to be imported from Quebec where they lived in a much more sexually mature environment. Soon 'French ' dancers were advertised to draw in customers. They open the door to the local hotties we have today.

We still had bumps - Madonna getting arrested for simulating sex was a fucking international embarrassment. We still can't have tailgate parties before football games.

Now if you are pining for the days when you didn't see as much immigration - you should spell that out. Maybe Toronto was much whiter back in the 50'/60's but it was a Victorian Era enclave and I hope we never return to those days.
 

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What lovely rose coloured glasses you are wearing.

Hog town was a boring pristine throw back from the Victorian era. Drinking (if you were in a part of Toronto that permitted it) was strictly regulated. Drinking hours were restricted except for one international event because Torontonians couldn't handle alcohol. Montreal was by far the most International renown Canadian city for partying. I knew American businessmen that would bypass Toronto for Montreal because of their 'love of life' style. Toronto the 'Good' was a boring WASP enclave that worshipped the 'Leave it to Beaver' family value set. Sundays was a ghost town for visiting singles.

Strip joints are a good barometer how far we have come from that '50s, 60s, and early 70s' era you wish to go back to. In puritan Toronto - any woman working as a stripper was the lowest of the low and strip clubs despicable dens of evil. They were dark boring dirty little bars with tattooed, drugged out bike chicks as strippers. I'm a 4/5 generation Canadian - I was so happy when more Europeans immigrated into Toronto to help convert this city into an international venue and slowly wrestled control away from Victorian morons controlling the city. Kudos to Spiro & Terry for opening the House of Lancaster with topless waitresses and then fighting for the liberties of mature men and women to make their own choices. The topless waitresses didn't last but he fought every regulation tossed at him. One article of clothing must remain on the dancer (they wanted topless only - pussies would initiate city wide rapes) - so HOL dancers alternated between tops and bottoms. Back to court to make bottoms mandatory and HOL had the dancers tied their panties to their ankles. The court battles wore on and slowly we (Toronto) gained more freedom. I will point out that strippers who were hot GND types had to be imported from Quebec where they lived in a much more sexually mature environment. Soon 'French ' dancers were advertised to draw in customers. They open the door to the local hotties we have today.

We still had bumps - Madonna getting arrested for simulating sex was a fucking international embarrassment. We still can't have tailgate parties before football games.

Now if you are pining for the days when you didn't see as much immigration - you should spell that out. Maybe Toronto was much whiter back in the 50'/60's but it was a Victorian Era enclave and I hope we never return to those days.
We also had the Ontario Censor Board banning and editing the movies.
 

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What lovely rose coloured glasses you are wearing.

Hog town was a boring pristine throw back from the Victorian era. Drinking (if you were in a part of Toronto that permitted it) was strictly regulated. Drinking hours were restricted except for one international event because Torontonians couldn't handle alcohol. Montreal was by far the most International renown Canadian city for partying. I knew American businessmen that would bypass Toronto for Montreal because of their 'love of life' style. Toronto the 'Good' was a boring WASP enclave that worshipped the 'Leave it to Beaver' family value set. Sundays was a ghost town for visiting singles.

Strip joints are a good barometer how far we have come from that '50s, 60s, and early 70s' era you wish to go back to. In puritan Toronto - any woman working as a stripper was the lowest of the low and strip clubs despicable dens of evil. They were dark boring dirty little bars with tattooed, drugged out bike chicks as strippers. I'm a 4/5 generation Canadian - I was so happy when more Europeans immigrated into Toronto to help convert this city into an international venue and slowly wrestled control away from Victorian morons controlling the city. Kudos to Spiro & Terry for opening the House of Lancaster with topless waitresses and then fighting for the liberties of mature men and women to make their own choices. The topless waitresses didn't last but he fought every regulation tossed at him. One article of clothing must remain on the dancer (they wanted topless only - pussies would initiate city wide rapes) - so HOL dancers alternated between tops and bottoms. Back to court to make bottoms mandatory and HOL had the dancers tied their panties to their ankles. The court battles wore on and slowly we (Toronto) gained more freedom. I will point out that strippers who were hot GND types had to be imported from Quebec where they lived in a much more sexually mature environment. Soon 'French ' dancers were advertised to draw in customers. They open the door to the local hotties we have today.

We still had bumps - Madonna getting arrested for simulating sex was a fucking international embarrassment. We still can't have tailgate parties before football games.

Now if you are pining for the days when you didn't see as much immigration - you should spell that out. Maybe Toronto was much whiter back in the 50'/60's but it was a Victorian Era enclave and I hope we never return to those days.
I don't know what your attitude towards my comments that you are getting at. I basically agree with everything you say going back to the WASP majority in this city. Yes the immigration of Europeans definitely helped change the style of life here. Back in time if you checked out the surnames of politicians the majority of them were WASPS. In my personal experience I was hired as a salesman by a company that was American owned and as my surname is Eastern European my manager while interviewing me was shocked that I was hired because my name wasn't Smith, Jones. Brown, etc. However, my complaint calling this city a Shithole today is because of the lack of respect for the laws of our communities causing much more violence and the lack of law enforcement allowing people to do anything they want not giving a damn.
 
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I don't know what your attitude towards my comments that you are getting at. I basically agree with everything you say going back to the WASP majority in this city. Yes the immigration of Europeans definitely helped change the style of life here. Back in time if you checked out the surnames of politicians the majority of them were WASPS. In my personal experience I was hired as a salesman by a company that was American owned and as my surname is Eastern European my manager while interviewing me was shocked that I was hired because my name wasn't Smith, Jones. Brown, etc. However, my complaint calling this city a Shithole today is because of the lack of respect for the laws of our communities causing much more violence and the lack of law enforcement allowing people to do anything they want not giving a damn.
I took your comments with the tone of a certain nostalgia for the good old days. I have the same but our memories tend to remember the good things and tend to repress the bad ones. I remember simple times, low grocery prices (however my dad always told me things were much cheaper when he was a boy and complained about prices), low gas, family cars were ~ $2K. The sexual repression was ridiculous. There was no sexual education in schools on a urge that was going to hit everyone. Condoms were behind the counter, magazines couldn't show a pussy. While alcohol was probably more abused in households then, public consumption laws were archaic.

As for the racial reference - it was not directed to you. You and I could not sit in a bar and discuss virtually any social or historic problem without a MAGA hat moron injecting hate into the conversation. 'That's because <insert derogatory term> <insert none white ethnic slur> have fucked up everything.' You can bet their mindset would twist your memories to their narrative. That was who I was referencing.
 

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What lovely rose coloured glasses you are wearing.

Hog town was a boring pristine throw back from the Victorian era. Drinking (if you were in a part of Toronto that permitted it) was strictly regulated. Drinking hours were restricted except for one international event because Torontonians couldn't handle alcohol. Montreal was by far the most International renown Canadian city for partying. I knew American businessmen that would bypass Toronto for Montreal because of their 'love of life' style. Toronto the 'Good' was a boring WASP enclave that worshipped the 'Leave it to Beaver' family value set. Sundays was a ghost town for visiting singles.

Strip joints are a good barometer how far we have come from that '50s, 60s, and early 70s' era you wish to go back to. In puritan Toronto - any woman working as a stripper was the lowest of the low and strip clubs despicable dens of evil. They were dark boring dirty little bars with tattooed, drugged out bike chicks as strippers. I'm a 4/5 generation Canadian - I was so happy when more Europeans immigrated into Toronto to help convert this city into an international venue and slowly wrestled control away from Victorian morons controlling the city. Kudos to Spiro & Terry for opening the House of Lancaster with topless waitresses and then fighting for the liberties of mature men and women to make their own choices. The topless waitresses didn't last but he fought every regulation tossed at him. One article of clothing must remain on the dancer (they wanted topless only - pussies would initiate city wide rapes) - so HOL dancers alternated between tops and bottoms. Back to court to make bottoms mandatory and HOL had the dancers tied their panties to their ankles. The court battles wore on and slowly we (Toronto) gained more freedom. I will point out that strippers who were hot GND types had to be imported from Quebec where they lived in a much more sexually mature environment. Soon 'French ' dancers were advertised to draw in customers. They open the door to the local hotties we have today.

We still had bumps - Madonna getting arrested for simulating sex was a fucking international embarrassment. We still can't have tailgate parties before football games.

Now if you are pining for the days when you didn't see as much immigration - you should spell that out. Maybe Toronto was much whiter back in the 50'/60's but it was a Victorian Era enclave and I hope we never return to those days.

HOL on Queensway was amazing, would have been great if they left it as a Historic Site. 😂 But the condo money was too rich for Spiro to pass up.
What a place to go for any night, the food was good, a good mix of beautiful women, loved the setup there minus the new VIP area that ruined it a little, sports events were perfect for that place TVs everywhere and above centre stage. Feature dancers, beautiful dancers, the bar area was cozy to chill by. Loved that place, so good.
Spiro knew what he was doing, cheap fucker but who isn't when running a business?

Toronto's mix in the 80s, more so the 90s was great. Was it perfect? No. But it wasn't anywhere where it is today, not even close.
 

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I haven’t had a drop of alcohol and coffee for about a month and I don’t have reading glasses but they way this thread had turned up side down is so confusing that I had to check the first page and title of this thread.
Yes, obviously he chose the wrong title ! :)
 

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What lovely rose coloured glasses you are wearing.

Hog town was a boring pristine throw back from the Victorian era. Drinking (if you were in a part of Toronto that permitted it) was strictly regulated. Drinking hours were restricted except for one international event because Torontonians couldn't handle alcohol. Montreal was by far the most International renown Canadian city for partying. I knew American businessmen that would bypass Toronto for Montreal because of their 'love of life' style. Toronto the 'Good' was a boring WASP enclave that worshipped the 'Leave it to Beaver' family value set. Sundays was a ghost town for visiting singles.

Strip joints are a good barometer how far we have come from that '50s, 60s, and early 70s' era you wish to go back to. In puritan Toronto - any woman working as a stripper was the lowest of the low and strip clubs despicable dens of evil. They were dark boring dirty little bars with tattooed, drugged out bike chicks as strippers. I'm a 4/5 generation Canadian - I was so happy when more Europeans immigrated into Toronto to help convert this city into an international venue and slowly wrestled control away from Victorian morons controlling the city. Kudos to Spiro & Terry for opening the House of Lancaster with topless waitresses and then fighting for the liberties of mature men and women to make their own choices. The topless waitresses didn't last but he fought every regulation tossed at him. One article of clothing must remain on the dancer (they wanted topless only - pussies would initiate city wide rapes) - so HOL dancers alternated between tops and bottoms. Back to court to make bottoms mandatory and HOL had the dancers tied their panties to their ankles. The court battles wore on and slowly we (Toronto) gained more freedom. I will point out that strippers who were hot GND types had to be imported from Quebec where they lived in a much more sexually mature environment. Soon 'French ' dancers were advertised to draw in customers. They open the door to the local hotties we have today.

We still had bumps - Madonna getting arrested for simulating sex was a fucking international embarrassment. We still can't have tailgate parties before football games.

Now if you are pining for the days when you didn't see as much immigration - you should spell that out. Maybe Toronto was much whiter back in the 50'/60's but it was a Victorian Era enclave and I hope we never return to those days.
I remember the Lancaster located in an office building on the corner of University a d Wellington St. I had to visit a company on a business matter, while waiting for the elevator, two women, one quite old and the other maybe in her forties came out of a door stating, DID YOU SEE THAT? THERE WERE NAKED LADIES IN THERE !!! LOL, when I finished my meeting, I curiously opened the door, sat at a table and ordered a beer served to me by a beautiful topless waitress. Then watched a stripper dancing on a stage shaped as a boxing ring, enjoying my day. This was their first location before they opened the location on the Queensway which I visited many times.
 
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HOL on Queensway was amazing, would have been great if they left it as a Historic Site. 😂 But the condo money was too rich for Spiro to pass up.
What a place to go for any night, the food was good, a good mix of beautiful women, loved the setup there minus the new VIP area that ruined it a little, sports events were perfect for that place TVs everywhere and above centre stage. Feature dancers, beautiful dancers, the bar area was cozy to chill by. Loved that place, so good.
Spiro knew what he was doing, cheap fucker but who isn't when running a business?

Toronto's mix in the 80s, more so the 90s was great. Was it perfect? No. But it wasn't anywhere where it is today, not even close.
Erica Boyer got off stage and came over and told me that the stage was the filthiest she's ever danced on....
 
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