Looks like the number of women requiring deposits is growing day by day

[blackjackshelac]

Let me be perfectly clear , everyone is entitled to manage their process in the best way that suits them and makes them comfortable. In that vain under no circumstances do I wish to reveal my true identity, by sending a picture , linkedin, work email or a deposit from my email. I have historically always used previous friends that would act as references, in the USA TER had a category called whitelist where former friends could vouch for you. When texting was required a burner phone, still not completely safe if found seemed to suffice but I must say I am truly stumped and could use some help and advice. I prefer indy’s but not exclusively and if this trend continues with no solution on my part my choices will become fewer and fewer.

Again to be clear, this not a judgement on the practice but a cry for help?

 

[escortsxxx]

I am in a similar situation. As the law in Canada as is now, the situation should be the reverse, as all legal burden is on the client. I would recommend a hard stance boycott against the practice and take those providers who corner the non deposit market.

 

[blackjackshelac]

Well, its not really a boycott but more of under no circumstances will I reveal and quite frankly don't want the providers to reveal their tru identity, not that thats been offered but it would make no difference, someone must have an anonymous solution to the deposit request, I get the reason why the ladies want a deposit but identity is over the line...

 

[G.D. Gentleman]

You are not alone. A gent I'm working with on a long term project right now who we know each other both go to strip clubs and escorts time to time, brought this exact concern up with me in a chat - Enjoys Indy ladies but the screening process was limiting his choices.

My only advice I could give him, I give to you. Perhaps it's time to refocus on finding your ladies of choice from agencies. Once you have established your number or burner phone with them (typical practice is one voice call in from your number), assuming you are not already established with agencies you would work with, gives you the ability to keep your identity 100% anonymous and also agencies will never initiate contact with you is common practice we see, giving you the option to use your main phone versus a burner phone but ultimately your choice.

I understand it may not be your preference, but it is the path of least resistance to enjoying beautiful SP's and fully meeting your privacy requirements along with a proven long term solution to the growing challenge you face.

 

[escortsxxx]

Plus I will point out there are many blackmail operations and variants how opperating in the new situation. GD Gentleman make some solid points. Old style Indie still exist but are harder to reach in a swamp of bad.

 

[blackjackshelac]

Yes that clearly is the path of the least resistance, however as every Indy is different establishing that relationship with numerous agencies will take some time. The other thing is that most agencies are limited in the number of mature ladies. The agencies is tend to Focus on the younger crowd and I for one have a hard line at 30 years old...the world has more mature indies than the agencies do but unfortunately I will have to do more research..thx for the support

 

[glamphotographer]

If you go with leaving a deposit, have the mindset that it's gone, and if your booking does happen then great.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

I encountered one years ago who wanted an interac deposit from my bank to whatever she was using. For $1.00 just to confirm something.She wasn't clear what. I didn't bite.

 

[Samranchoi]

Deposit question again. The OP uses it in the title but there are many other things that concern him. When someone’s livelihood can be affected by no-shows by clients or by those who want to negatively affect her business with no intention to actually see her after making an appointment, why is it so hard to understand why an increasing number of women are asking for deposits. They made their choice knowing full well how such a practice may affect their business. The beauty of their decision, potential clients have the last say in whether or not they want to comply. If not, move on to someone else. There is so much choice right now although I understand if a woman you really want to see has a deposit policy, why you would think it is not fair.

You are purchasing her time and she put something in place to ensure her income is not hugely affected by cancelled appointments at the last minute. This puts the onus on the client to ensure they honour their commitment. As long as the women returns the deposit if they cannot keep the appointment is all that should matter.

 

[escortsxxx]

Interesting that you say this. I have never done deposits. I tried it with a lady who had a covid offer during the lockdown and am not having an easy time getting responses from her lately.
Maybe we should start a thread on providers who take deposits then don't follow through....
I would be interested to know how common this is.
During the lockdown many SPs advertised pre-payment offers. From the clients who participated in them, have you received your sessions? PM if you'd rather.

I am against the deposit policy among non repeating clients (I could see value on it for "holding" a time you where not sure you could make for a provider you see regularly) but my main objection is that scam artists and bad actors make up the majority of the practice. 5 years ago a deposit was proof of a scam blackmail or some such be definition but as legitimate players start to use it it muddies the water.
I suppose there is some kind of gap for on line holding of payment that someone could make an app to allow the advantages of such a fee but the more deposits become more mainstream the more criminal activities will rise making the situtation worse for everyone in the long run. I know of no certain time a deposit system was legit but I am sure they exist but I know of hundreds where they were not. I imagine at random you have maybe 2% chance for it to work out (pure random, rather than say do R&D on this board). That might even by hi on a pure random since I am not looking at sketchy websites.


That being said with know enties for special events I have used deposit like methods. But those are unusual circumstances.

 

[Samranchoi]

I am against the deposit policy among non repeating clients (I could see value on it for "holding" a time you where not sure you could make for a provider you see regularly) but my main objection is that scam artists and bad actors make up the majority of the practice.

Since we are on Terb my comments are only in respect to those women who advertise here and are highly respected and well reviewed. If what you say is true, how come there are so few comments on this board confirming this for the women who advertise here? Yes there are scammers and bad apples in the industry but I would say that the majority of women who advertise here do not fall into that category. If I really want to see a women who requires a deposit, I will send it and if something goes wrong and I do not receive the money back after requesting it (as long as I did nothing wrong), I will report it here but from what I can see, this is not a common occurrence. But guys here make such s big thing about it over and over.

 

[explorerzip]

Deposit question again. The OP uses it in the title but there are many other things that concern him. When someone’s livelihood can be affected by no-shows by clients or by those who want to negatively affect her business with no intention to actually see her after making an appointment, why is it so hard to understand why an increasing number of women are asking for deposits. They made their choice knowing full well how such a practice may affect their business. The beauty of their decision, potential clients have the last say in whether or not they want to comply. If not, move on to someone else. There is so much choice right now although I understand if a woman you really want to see has a deposit policy, why you would think it is not fair.

You are purchasing her time and she put something in place to ensure her income is not hugely affected by cancelled appointments at the last minute. This puts the onus on the client to ensure they honour their commitment. As long as the women returns the deposit if they cannot keep the appointment is all that should matter.

Well said. The fundamental problem with topics like this is that nobody knows how widespread it is. There's also no reliable way to know how many ladies require deposits or another form of screening.

Not knowing this information makes taking action let alone a boycott impossible. First of all, who would we be boycotting exactly? Does anyone have a comprehensive list (or willing to make one) of all the ladies that need deposits, references, ID or some other form of screening? Remember that not every lady out there is on Terb.

 

[Darts]

Apologies if this has already been answered, are we saying that e-transfers are not safe? I heard some horror stories (involving civilians, not escorts).

There was one recent news story where a gent received an e-transfer in his TD bank account. TD later reversed the deposit leaving him out of pocket the cash. (I think TD later made him whole as a goodwill gesture.)

 

[boodiemoo]

Apologies if this has already been answered, are we saying that e-transfers are not safe? I heard some horror stories (involving civilians, not escorts).

E-transfer will reveal your real name/civilian e-mail, so you have to be ok with that...

 

[FlorenceYi]

This is a very valid concern on both sides which I don't think there is a perfect solution for - just based on what the provider is comfortable with based on her personal experiences and what the client is comfortable with based on their personal experiences. I think reviews and reputation are paramount when deciding whether to go with a booking - regardless of deposits or information required. When you look at businesses outside of this industry who do require deposits and personally identifying information - they are businesses that just don't have time to waste on time wasting patrons anymore because they are not hurting for business. Hotels, spas, service providers who book well in advance for their services, restaurants with a reputation and can demand a deposit or credit card information. I think a lot of providers want to be recognized as a legitimate business and enforce regulations based on that. However, there is a real concern for privacy and legal repercussions to worry about on the client side, so it makes for a precarious position.

I can only speak for myself when I say.. why would a regular patron of mine not be cool with providing me a deposit if he already knows I am reliable and has seen me before? That pisses me off. Also, why would someone be against me asking for a $100 amazon gift card (as an alternative if someone is uncomfortable with etransfer or paypal methods) as a show of good faith and acceptable method of deposit when there is no identifying information there, is beyond me.

 

[Darts]

E-transfer will reveal your real name/civilian e-mail, so you have to be ok with that...

Thanks. I figure the less the Internet and some humans know about me the better.

 

[y2kmark]

Let me be perfectly clear , everyone is entitled to manage their process in the best way that suits them and makes them comfortable. In that vain under no circumstances do I wish to reveal my true identity, by sending a picture , linkedin, work email or a deposit from my email. I have historically always used previous friends that would act as references, in the USA TER had a category called whitelist where former friends could vouch for you. When texting was required a burner phone, still not completely safe if found seemed to suffice but I must say I am truly stumped and could use some help and advice. I prefer indy’s but not exclusively and if this trend continues with no solution on my part my choices will become fewer and fewer.

Again to be clear, this not a judgement on the practice but a cry for help?

Well, doesn't cash and dash need to maintain physical distancing as well?

 

[sp free]

Anonymity is crucial for us, safety for them.

Seems we are at impasse.

 

[boodiemoo]

When you look at businesses outside of this industry who do require deposits and personally identifying information - they are businesses that just don't have time to waste on time wasting patrons anymore because they are not hurting for business. Hotels, spas, service providers who book well in advance for their services, restaurants with a reputation and can demand a deposit or credit card information.

As a customer, I do get some comfort from the fact that these establishments have some information protection measures in place (in most cases - via service/billing platform provider, that is subject to security audits, standards forced down by payments networks, etc.)

Also, why would someone be against me asking for a $100 amazon gift card (as an alternative if someone is uncomfortable with etransfer or paypal methods) as a show of good faith and acceptable method of deposit when there is no identifying information there, is beyond me.

And this is indeed a reasonably anonymous method of deposit. Many providers still ask for e-Transfer/PP though.

 

[decoy2673]

It doesn't bother me at all. I just dont see them if that's the case.

Im not jeopardizing my career reputation to have sex with a woman. hell no. There a plenty of SPs that will see you without requiring compromising info or a deposit.

The funny thing is alot of SP's are always on about their clients being unsatisfactory/not so great, the reason why is because good clients with alot to lose (good jobs/prospects) aren't going to risk it all to get their dick wet.