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I no longer live in Durham, but I visit often, so most of my hobbying happens while traveling.


It’s important to note that I’m generally a very gentle person. In most sessions I’m passive and let the lady take the lead. I’m 50 years old, maybe 20 lbs overweight, and I maintain impeccable hygiene. Most providers seem genuinely happy to see me.


I was back in my hometown when the insatiable urge hit. My family was out of town, so I thought, why the hell not?


It’s a small city with a decent number of providers, but I struggled to arrange anything. I finally reached out to a well-known young woman (27/28, BBW) and asked about rates and services. We hadn’t even settled on a time when a friend of mine called with a small household emergency. I texted the SP that I could no longer make it. She immediately blew up my phone, demanding a full cancellation fee of $260 for the hour. I refused—I’d been very clear that we hadn’t confirmed anything.


She kept texting, first demanding the full amount via EFT, then dropping it to half. I apologized again but held firm. Then she started telling me how hard her life was, how she was just a lonely girl trying to make it and that she wanted the money. I began to feel bad for her.


After thinking it over, with the wheels turning in my head; thinking of a session I always wanted so I texted back. I had $400 in my wallet—nearly double her rate. I texted that could have it all, but I wanted the filthiest session possible. She was to not say no to anything unless she felt unsafe or it caused real pain. I wanted to use her as my fuck toy with unlimited SOG for the full hour. She agreed. I double-checked that she was sure, and she confirmed yes.


I arrived at her place and immediately sensed this might be a problem. She was very timid and shy. I was kind, chatted with her for a bit, gave her a kiss, and asked if she was ready. She said yes. I told her “Bubblegum” was the safe word to stop everything if needed.


I had her strip. She seemed slightly uncomfortable—probably used to keeping her corset on. When I went for DFK she kept pulling away. I reminded her she told me she would do what I asked. I kissed her more forcefully, pushing my tongue into her mouth. She still pulled back a little.


I told her to kneel and suck my cock. She said “Yes, Daddy,” as I’d instructed. Her blowjob was timid—just the tip. I wanted face-fucking, sloppy deep-throat, gagging. What I really craved was to fuck her face, cum in her mouth, snowball it, and have spit it back on her. As she sucked the tip I told her “no hands” and pushed hers away. I’d get a few strokes in before she pulled back and grabbed my hands again. After reminding her of our deal, I managed a couple more decent thrusts. She pulled away once more, so I slapped her face with my cock and told her she wasn’t being a good slut. She looked up with a look of reluctance. I immediately asked if she was okay and wanted to continue. She said yes.


I led her to the bed and went down on her (DATY). She got extremely wet. I worked in one finger, then two, then three, eating her out while finger-fucking her hard. Her pussy took it all. At one point she pushed down so hard on my hand and I had nearly my whole hand inside, pumping. (I never quite got past the knuckles for a full fist.) This went on for about 20 minutes. I alternated by reaching up to twist her nipples. She finally came hard, squirting all over both of us.


I told her it was time to suck me again. I stood over her. She started the same timid tip-sucking. When I pushed deeper she pulled away. I grabbed her hair and pumped my cock into her mouth for one solid thrust. She looked very uncomfortable, so I checked in again. She said she was okay. I gripped the back of her head and started pumping. She pulled away as I got several good deep strokes.


I decided to take a break from that and told her to make me cum with a handjob. She did, and I came all over us.


After a quick cleanup, I told her we were going to continue the face-fucking training (it had me rock hard). We were only at the 30-minute mark, and I had clearly reminded her via text that this was a multiple-nut session. She looked upset, so I ended it early. I got dressed, gave her a peck on the cheek, and left. She seemed relieved to see me go.

I feel bad that I made her uncomfortable - I don't think I was super rough or aggressive and I really did try to make clear this was a domination / submissive session and that was why I was paying a premium and she agreed.


MY QUESTIONS TO THE BOARD ARE:


  1. Did I cross any lines? I made multiple tests to make clear what I wanted, and gave a "safe word" and also "checked in" multiple times. I also ended when it was clear she did not want to continue.
  2. I honestly thought this was all "par for the course" with most SPs - nothing I was doing was super intense.
  3. Who in Durham could fulfill this fantasy session properly - super submissive SP who can do a good face fuck/gagging etc..
 

Machinegunwilly

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I think communication and understanding of limits along with a built up client/provider relationship is key. I also enjoy this type of session and it was always discussed before hand. Usually in a session or 2 before. It’s not likely to walk in to a session with a sp you haven’t seen before and expect to skull fuck her right away. Chemistry could be key here.

Perhaps some SP’s can weigh in on this?
 
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beyondkarma

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I think communication and understanding of limits along with a built up client/provider relationship is key. I also enjoy this type of session and it was always discussed before hand. Usually in a session or 2 before. It’s not likely to walk in to a session with a sp you haven’t seen before and expect to skull fuck her right away. Chemistry could be key here.

Perhaps some SP’s can weigh in on this?
I've seen more than a few SP's in my time that were 100% ok with face fucking as rough as I'd like on the first ever encounter

I think in this case the SP wanted the extra money more than anything and wasn't the sort of girl that would ever be down for what OP was looking for. I don't think he crossed any lines but I personally wouldn't have proceeded past the original attempt at FF as she's clearly uncomfortable with it and not a no gag girl (I never kiss but the hesitation at even that would have given me pause)

Backdoor Becky will do everything you want with a smile on her face, the experience will be the exact opposite of what you had
 
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Mikediamond

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Expecting to be dominant in a session with a lady you’re seeing for the first time who’s not used to or into that kind of a session is a risky bet unless she’s known for it. I don’t think you acted maliciously but I’d bet she’s not that type of lady and only did it because she really, truly needs the money.

As much as that’s my type of session I wouldn’t want to do it with a lady knowing she’s in dire straits. I want to have fun, not feel like an opportunistic predator.
 

Jenesis

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This is the way I personally read it,

She was clearly not into it and was down on her luck. You could see this yourself, you admit you saw it, therefore you crossed the line into exploiting her situation and need for money.

She agreed to everything, you checked in, all that. I get it. It is all just justification to something you already know is wrong or you wouldn’t be here asking. You saw her non-verbal cues. You picked up on them. That was enough. Or at least would have been for ME to personally stop if I was you.

but legally, technically, whatever you want to call it. - you are in the clear.
 

bob.man

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Dorothea sounds like she would be up to all that and more..
I haven't been able to connect with her, she is notoriously difficult to meet up with.
But from what I got she is real.. she definitely wants her ass slapped hard. From the pics..
 

rdmnut

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A couple of follow up items -

1. Dorothea looks like fucking perfection for this. Next time I’m in town I’ll try to connect. I will be very sure to explicitly state what I’m looking for.

2. After re-reading my post I will say that the way I’ve written it would appear that I was much rougher than the session actually was, and I don’t feel like any lines were crossed but I’m just the type of guy that feels bad if I think I’ve caused anyone distress.

3. As far as taking advantage of a girl down in her luck, the additional caoffering was supposed to be generous, help her out and get me the session I wanted. I tried to give warning of what I wanted and thought this was all clear.

4. The ad for the SP in question read as follows:

“…..Hi i,m xxxxx the one who is going to spoil you and give you the best sloppy bjs you have ever had. Im a total cock slut that wants you to use me as your own personal fuck toy. i,m a total squirting queen with a tight pussy that loves hard cock deep inside my wet pussy. I,m also into kinky play 😈 just tell me what you want…….”

Not sure what else I could have done differently other than simply have walked out in the first 2 mins, with the 400.00 written off.
 

RebelinBed

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4. The ad for the SP in question read as follows:

“…..Hi i,m xxxxx the one who is going to spoil you and give you the best sloppy bjs you have ever had. Im a total cock slut that wants you to use me as your own personal fuck toy. i,m a total squirting queen with a tight pussy that loves hard cock deep inside my wet pussy. I,m also into kinky play 😈 just tell me what you want…….”

Not sure what else I could have done differently other than simply have walked out in the first 2 mins, with the 400.00 written off.
Without litigating the details of your session with the SP in question:

That stuff they write in their ad details is all marketing to get you interested, horny, and in the door. Unless there are reviews that corroborate it - like the aforementioned Backdoor Becky or Dorotheatre - don't buy into it until you see and experience it for yourself.

What you could've done differently is stick to your guns on not going especially after she demanded the money when nothing was booked, pressured, and manipulated you and found someone else instead. You would've got the session you wanted within your budget. But instead you blew all your extra cash on a shit session because you let yourself get played. 🤷🏼‍♂️
 

Mikediamond

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Without litigating the details of your session with the SP in question:

That stuff they write in their ad details is all marketing to get you interested, horny, and in the door. Unless there are reviews that corroborate it - like the aforementioned Backdoor Becky or Dorotheatre - don't buy into it until you see and experience it for yourself.

What you could've done differently is stick to your guns on not going especially after she demanded the money when nothing was booked, pressured, and manipulated you and found someone else instead. You would've got the session you wanted within your budget. But instead you blew all your extra cash on a shit session because you let yourself get played. 🤷🏼‍♂️
All of this. Her harassing you right out of the gate like that isn’t just a red flag, it’s a big red sail for a sailboat. If it’s starting like that it’ll only get worse if you let your little head make the decisions.
 

Fred Flinstone

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I was in the middle of a session with an SP I was very familiar with, years ago, when the idea of anal came up.. we'd never talked about it, but on this particular day, she was being generous. Boundaries were made clear, and the millisecond she recoiled, I stopped. End of story. It isn't always about what we want gents..even when pay for it.
 

Mikediamond

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I was in the middle of a session with an SP I was very familiar with, years ago, when the idea of anal came up.. we'd never talked about it, but on this particular day, she was being generous. Boundaries were made clear, and the millisecond she recoiled, I stopped. End of story. It isn't always about what we want gents..even when pay for it.
Most bad dates are a result of a caveman thinking that because they paid for their time they’re allowed to treat the lady like an object.
 
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