Looking for recommendation on truly safe gfe SPs..

[Herbie]

Sorry Rachelle but you are wrong about the kissing and risks, at least with DFK.

Here is a good chart provided by Health Nurse on https://perb.cc
http://healthnurse.wordpress.com/faq-about-sexual-health/sti-risks-chart/

Cheers,
Herbie

Ummm as I stated I cannot comment on what Mia does or does not do. Bowser I will say that I have NEVER hear of her doing anything but 100% safe as in cbj

As fat as your comment, why doeskissing have to do with this. Kissing is pretty much a risk free activity. I will post a risk chart that I posted on the the other board as I think maybe some could use an update on their sti info.

 

[InfortiesAndAlone]

Thanks for the info Herbie.

 

[moonshadow]

Maybe the palm sisters would be a good choice! :hand:

Agreed. They might be a good choice. But make sure they are both washed first..

 

[Herbie]

Agreed. They might be a good choice. But make sure they are both washed first..

And put some gloves on ..better safe then sorry.

 

[rachelle]

I've seen the chart u have posted. So u say I'm wrong because there is a risk of possibly catching ONE STI ( curable, not that this has any affect of the risk leel, just pointing it out.)and no risk of catching the other 10 or so other much scarier diseases. Don't get me wrong I think every STI out there is scary. But the chart hardly lists DFK as a high risk activity. I've never heard in all my years in the adult industry of anyone catching syphilis at all let alone from kissing.

 

[Herbie]

Rachelle,

The fact that you never heard about something doesn't mean there is no high risk of getting it. The chart states facts, not perceptions.

Also, your argument that catching one and not catching other 10 STi doesn't give me a confidence that you know what you are talking about. Try to google on syphilis and what it can do to you, if you don't detect it on time. Even if you detect it on time, check how it's cured. Definitely one of the scary ones. I am sure nobody would be happy to go through that.

The fact it that there is a high-risk of getting a nasty STi through DFK if one of the partners is infected. No need to argue about it.
I am just stating the facts.

Cheers,
Herbie

I've seen the chart u have posted. So u say I'm wrong because there is a risk of possibly catching ONE STI ( curable, not that this has any affect of the risk leel, just pointing it out.)and no risk of catching the other 10 or so other much scarier diseases. Don't get me wrong I think every STI out there is scary. But the chart hardly lists DFK as a high risk activity. I've never heard in all my years in the adult industry of anyone catching syphilis at all let alone from kissing.

 

[blackram]

Seriously guys, how do you get out of your houses everyday with so many foreign bugs flying around outside?

 

[rachelle]

Clearly my point is being misunderstood. And yes I k ow that this is a fact chart. I am an educated woman. My point is that DFK is not a high risk activity, clearly there is a risk but there is a risk with every sxual experience with every partner whether sp or not.

U can say the fact that I have never known it to happen to anyone does say something. As I know alot of girls and alot of pooners. Of course I'm sure if it's on the chart it has Happend.


Again my point stay withen your comfort zone when deciding hr activities to partake hen visiting n SP.

Rachelle,

The fact that you never heard about something doesn't mean there is no high risk of getting it. The chart states facts, not perceptions.

Also, your argument that catching one and not catching other 10 STi doesn't give me a confidence that you know what you are talking about. Try to google on syphilis and what it can do to you, if you don't detect it on time. Even if you detect it on time, check how it's cured. Definitely one of the scary ones. I am sure nobody would be happy to go through that.

The fact it that there is a high-risk of getting a nasty STi through DFK if one of the partners is infected. No need to argue about it.
I am just stating the facts.

Cheers,
Herbie

 

[the general]

Wow, I realize some guys want to play it safe, but there is almost no such thing as safe that is 100 percent guaranteed. And even if you thought the lady as a SP provided 100 percent safe service, she has a personal life too, and could catch something in her personal life. The risk is minimal, but not zero, but the again, a condom could break and even if safe, nothing is that safe. The only safe sex, is no sex at all, perhaps from some that really is the only option.

 

[rachelle]

Wow, I realize some guys want to play it safe, but there is almost no such thing as safe that is 100 percent guaranteed. And even if you thought the lady as a SP provided 100 percent safe service, she has a personal life too, and could catch something in her personal life. The risk is minimal, but not zero, but the again, a condom could break and even if safe, nothing is that safe. The only safe sex, is no sex at all, perhaps from some that really is the only option.

exactly! the whole point I've been trying to get across whole banging my head against the wall is, don't assume an sp has never done certain things cause she does not advertise it! That's it that's all!

 

[InfortiesAndAlone]

Seriously guys, how do you get out of your houses everyday with so many foreign bugs flying around outside?

The bugs you can't help (except with bug repellent). Venereal issues you can avoid by communication and precaution.
To extend your reasoning, there are foreign bugs in the air, therefore do NOT look both ways before crossing the street.

 

[InfortiesAndAlone]

Herbie,
Whomever you decide to go with, we'd be grateful if you could keep us posted by writing a review or PM.
Thanks

 

[Herbie]

No problem. I'll be glad to share.
IMO sharing is the best part of this forum. :thumb:

Cheers,
Herbie

Herbie,
Whomever you decide to go with, we'd be grateful if you could keep us posted by writing a review or PM.
Thanks

 

[Herbie]

exactly! the whole point I've been trying to get across whole banging my head against the wall is, don't assume an sp has never done certain things cause she does not advertise it! That's it that's all!

My point was not about completely removing the risk but about minimizing it, which I am doing by choosing reputable SPs that don't offer bbbj, at least not to every customer who knocks on their door.

I agree, there is always risk involved, like in everything else in life.
There is a risk that you'll be hit by a car when crossing the street but you minimize the risk if you look left and right before crossing, versus just rushing into the traffic.

Cheers,
Herbie

 

[blackram]

My point was not about completely removing the risk but about minimizing it, which I am doing by choosing reputable SPs that don't offer bbbj, at least not to every customer who knocks on their door.

I think one of the points being made is that nobody really knows for sure that the SP never offers bbbj to anyone else in their life. As you can see in this thread alone, one person believed a particular SP didn't offer it, but they were surprised to find out that they did. So with no iron-clad guarantees that it's absolutely never happened, what's the point in even trying to find these girls, and then limiting yourself to those particular girls when it could be a false-sense of security? I've been in this hobby for over 20 years, and I've found a lot of stuff that the girls say they don't do, they may in fact do. So the question becomes is the risk you're trying to avoid even as much of a risk as you think? You could have so much more choice of girls if you don't limit yourself to a particular subset of girls who may not even be what you think they are.

 

[InfortiesAndAlone]

I think one of the points being made is that nobody really knows for sure ...

Everyone has one's own degree of risk aversion and other preferences.
Another point is that the business of an SP is not all that different from other businesses in the service sector like restaurants. Each restauranteur is free to serve whatever they wish to whom they wish, but they must be honest with their customers regarding the items and the ingredients. This just makes good business sense.
I know of highly reputable and very elitist exclusive SP's in Toronto who, I mistakenly thought, provided a strictly safe service; but one of the ladies sent me the following message:
"I just like to make sure everyone knows what they're getting into when they see me... But yeah, we both offer true GFE, which includes bbbj. Safe GFE is covered everything."
So you see, this good lady is perfectly open direct and honest about what she does, and in fact she makes sure her would-be clients are well informed before they see her.
This is the kind of honesty I expect from a reputable SP, unless the adjective reputable means a different thing in Toronto than in Ottawa!?!

 

[InfortiesAndAlone]

Monique Matheson says on her website: "I ... offer a safe, unrushed girlfriend experience."

But even then, in the light my recent experience, I would have to ask her exactly what this means.

 

[Oxmal]

Monique Matheson says on her website: "I ... offer a safe, unrushed girlfriend experience."

But even then, in the light my recent experience, I would have to ask her exactly what this means.

Also people may percieve that differently based on past "real life GFE's".... Most gf's will BBBJ, but you have to use a raincoat when parking inside... So its hard to really have a "standard" service basically...

Thing is... if you ask her is this completely safe FS or ?? Some might go as far to assume your asking because you want it to be and will say of course it is... Which doesn't exactly mean its ALWAYS this way... know what I mean?

 

[InfortiesAndAlone]

Also people may percieve that differently based on past "real life GFE's".... Most gf's will BBBJ, but you have to use a raincoat when parking inside... So its hard to really have a "standard" service basically...

Thing is... if you ask her is this completely safe FS or ?? Some might go as far to assume your asking because you want it to be and will say of course it is... Which doesn't exactly mean its ALWAYS this way... know what I mean?

Yes, I understand what you mean. Good point!

 

[brazilDELETED]

I'de recommend Manuella from T2T/Capital Candies/ Explore Her.. ( all same agency) she's smokin hot, and truly a safe gfe..great encounters and i've read nothing but amazing reviews about her..