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I've been saying it for a while now, Google is taking RIM's market share with apple going sideways and taking a lions share of the profits.

OTB
 
You've been saying many things for quite awhile now.
 
One thing is for certain.... I'm done with RIM products for myself. They are just too inefficient now.
 
I'm surprised how many teenage girls have blackberries, seems to be their texting phone of choice.
 
WorkingMan2010 said:
Rim's playbook is starting to look more and more interesting based on what I am learning hear-say. I will wait until it comes out and see the first reviews and try it myself (as several of my clients are committed to trying it themselves) and see if it helps boost Rim's image again.

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It does look pretty slick and fast. I can see this being a hit with business folk. The size alone will be appealing because of its portability (put in suit pocket and go).
I'm wondering if Apple will go with a smaller version in their 3rd gen or somewhere down the lineage of iPads.
 
Powershot said:
I'm surprised how many teenage girls have blackberries, seems to be their texting phone of choice.
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...and early to late 20 somethings as well.
I see more BBs than I do Androids and iPhones, but the numbers seem to say otherwise.
 
The big thing for RIM, is that they bought QNX. QNX is a real time (mostly embedded) POSIX (sorta Unix) operating system provider. That's the OS that the playbook runs, and it is a quality OS. RIM's future rests on getting that OS onto their whole product line while letting QNX continue to sell in the embedded market. (QNX is a, "it really has to fucking work AND on time" OS. Think medical equipment and your brakes.) Once BlackBerry moves most of their lines to a QNX based system with a BB type interface, the development environment gets a lot better on a very stable base, and the apps should flourish.

In the medium term BlackBerry has significant advantages in that they make pretty secure devices, have a fair amount of business lock in, and have models that have a physical keyboard. In the longer term they'll sink or swim on future product and new OS rollouts.
 
Three interesting perspectives, first is market share of all phones (not just smartphones), second is sales volume (amount not unit), third is profits:

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Who would you rather be?

OTB
 
Seriously fanboi bottie.....

You're getting to be a one trick pony with all them fancy handy dandy 'arts & charts' you pony up.....

It looks like you have way too much time on your hands....
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djk said:
BBM. Girls love BBM.

Hell, they have one gushing about BBM in one of their ads.
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A lot of people love BBM - it's convenient, quick and secure.
I've met plenty of business men and women that use it religiously for work and of course personal use.
 
I have a Bold 9700 from the office, put OS 6 on it a few weeks ago, and while the browser is decent now and feeds is nice, the low res and tiny screen still leave it feeling a few years old.
 
Powershot said:
I have a Bold 9700 from the office, put OS 6 on it a few weeks ago, and while the browser is decent now and feeds is nice, the low res and tiny screen still leave it feeling a few years old.
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To play devil's advocate here, people still tend to zoom (I'd say) well over 90% of the time when surfing on their Android and iPhone based devices.
As for texting, not so much and the same would go for anything from LG, Nokia and BB.

My cousin's Samsung Vibrant is incredible and I do love playing with it because of its functionality as a multimedia platform, but as a serious communicating device (text/voice/email), I'd honestly have to say the BB has the edge.
But for surfing and gaming, nothing can touch the Android/iPhone platform - although I wish Nokia didn't drop the ball as badly as they have, their hardware is/was like no other.
 
Cobster said:
To play devil's advocate here, people still tend to zoom (I'd say) well over 90% of the time when surfing on their Android and iPhone based devices.
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That's one nice thing about Android I wish iOS had. The ability to wrap text and increase font size for the browser.

My cousin's Samsung Vibrant is incredible..
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I won't touch another Samsung period after the nonsense I had with my Galaxy S. Their kies software is so bloated and slow. Their first froyo update bricked my device. Plus the issues with GPS. Oh and removing the mode to flash custom roms (I forget its exact name) from it. Fuck you, Samsung.

Not a big fan of Motorola as I can't stand Motoblur. I wouldn't buy a Sony Android phone either after they reneged Froyo on the X10. The only Android hardware maker I respect now is HTC.
 
Bricked your device? I read a few posts with my cousin in regards to updating with Froyo and many on there are pretty successful with it - very little "bricking" going on, in relation to successful upgrades.
Samsung isn`t a complete angel either I`ll agree, but at least you can tweak it and the battery isn`t hardwired and they don`t use special pentalobe screw sets so people can`t open their products up and do whatever it is they wish with THEIR device that they own. https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...l-core-phone&p=3417924&viewfull=1#post3417924

So of course there`s a good and bad for each product. But something as simple as not being Apple to replace a battery that costs $20-50?
The hassle of having to go to a store and get it replaced? That`s pretty brutal as well.
 
Cobster said:
Bricked your device? I read a few posts with my cousin in regards to updating with Froyo and many on there are pretty successful with it - very little "bricking" going on, in relation to successful upgrades.
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It was a widespread problem.

http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/12/17/samsung-temporarily-suspending-galaxy-s-os-2-2-upgrade/
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/do-you-have-a-bell-vibrant-i9000m-then-read-this/

Samsung isn't a complete angel either I'll agree, but at least you can tweak it and the battery isn't hardwired and they don't use special pentalobe screw sets so people can't open their products up and do whatever it is they wish with THEIR device that they own.

But something as simple as not being Apple to replace a battery that costs $20-50?
The hassle of having to go to a store and get it replaced? That's pretty brutal as well.
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http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s/175744-no-recovery-mode.html

There's other threads I remember reading but cannot find currently that states Samsung has removed recovery mode from most Galaxy S devices to prevent people from flashing custom ROMS. Kinda goes against the whole "freedom and openness" angle of Android.

You may not like Apple's behavior but they do not hide what they are and the closed nature of their platform.
 
Everyone has their problems, no doubt. But your own issue was that you said you bricked your own phone while trying to flash it yourself.
I stated that the majority of others haven't had problems like you, but those that did, maybe they didn't know what they were doing? Who knows? :)

As for the recovery mode, there's an apparent solution within the thread that you posted a link to.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728754

Closed nature makes it sound so nice, great choice of words, but with that, you should also add extremely proprietary $$$.

While I'm not a huge fan of either Android or iPhone, at least with Android you can download and work the source code yourself.
 
Cobster said:
Everyone has their problems, no doubt. But your own issue was that you said you bricked your own phone while trying to flash it yourself.
I stated that the majority of others haven't had problems like you, but those that did, maybe they didn't know what they were doing? Who knows? :)
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I know my carrier was offering a $100 bill credit for anyone who bricked their Galaxy S and a free replacement.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-886485.html

Luckily (or maybe not), I was able to restore mine with some patience and time spent on XDA.

Closed nature makes it sound so nice, great choice of words, but with that, you should also add extremely proprietary $$$.
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Closed nature = proprietary.

While I'm not a huge fan of either Android or iPhone, at least with Android you can download and work the source code yourself.
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You wouldn't get the fully functional Android that is running on mobile phones. It's like OS X for Mac, you can download all the open source code and compile it too. But it won't be the OS X you see running on Macs.

http://www.opensource.apple.com/
 
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