Libyan Civil War

[Rockslinger]

Is Libya heading for a civil war? Or, are they already in a civil war?

 

[Aardvark154]

Is Libya heading for a civil war? Or, are they already in a civil war?

Already there.

Some of us at the time said - let's give this some second thought.

The Italian Government is expressing real concern as to the increasingly deteriorating situation in Libya.

 

[basketcase]

I do give credit to the authorities for trying to disarm all the militias.

 

[fuji]

Already there.

Some of us at the time said - let's give this some second thought.

The Italian Government is expressing real concern as to the increasingly deteriorating situation in Libya.

The situation remains better than Iraq.

 

[fuji]

Duplicate post

 

[saxon]

Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan. The Americans seem to have a knack for deposing foreign governments and then leave those countries in a complete mess.

 

[Rockslinger]

Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan. The Americans seem to have a knack for deposing foreign governments and then leave those countries in a complete mess.

Iraq and Libya need a strongman dictator to hold everything together. Afghanistan need the Taliban to keep the country in check. The population in those countries need another X years (more or less) before they are ready for democratic self-rule. Egypt is lucky they have the Army to hold the country together.

P.S. The U.S. made the mistake of using the same template in Iraq and Afghanistan that they successfully used in post-WW II Germany and Japan.

 

[poker]

....... Egypt is lucky they have the Army to hold the country together........

The elected president remains in jail, the coup plotters continue their illegal rule. Laws are being enacted to eliminate democratic rights, including the right to protest, as well as the right to freely form political parties. Political prisoners continue to be held without charge, people who murdered protesters have not been brought to justice. Stalinist style show trials are being implemented to put opposition figures to death or life in prison.

What he said......

 

[Rockslinger]

Apparently, the warlords are saying that they have the constitutional right to bear arms and refuse to surrender the AR-15's to the central government. Who do they think they are--- Americans?

P.S. 43 dead and 400 wounded in clashes yesterday.

 

[seth gecko]

Is Libya heading for a civil war? Or, are they already in a civil war?

Fezzan and Cyrenaica have both recently declared their autonomy from Libyan "central" gov't (which, 2 years after Ghadaffy's death, still flounders). Not outright secession, but it seems to be heading towards breakup rather than consolidation. There's just toooo many rival faction, tribes, militias, etc waging low-level action against each other, and the gov't security forces aren't able to get a handle on the situation without substantial amounts of outside assistance (which isn't being offered). When Colin Powell said "you broke it, you buy it" about Iraq, IMO that same should hold true with Libya, as without NATO's involvement, ousting Qaddafi would most likely NOT have happened.