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Liberals vote no on Conservative bail reform motion

mandrill

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Link to the story? Or is this just fantasy talk?
This would only happen in PeePee World where no one gets bail. In a Liberal run system, the guy gets out, keeps his job and doesn't lose his house, hires a lawyer and the mean wife is too scared to show up at trial.

That's why Liberal World is better than PeePee World.
 

sexdoctor

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You ever think that stuff like this has to be done carefully and properly?

For one thing, bail denial will need the number of jails to be massively increased. As well, as innocent people being framed and forced to sit in jail for months before they can prove their innocence.

PeePee does it for the headlines because he knows he's an impotent, powerless dork who will never actually win an election and get to put any of his "policies" into effect.
Agreed this should be done carefully but it should be done in a reasonable time. PeePee is a life long politician and puts politics ahead of country too often.

We for sure need to keep criminals off the street and yes, probably time to invest in some more jails to house them.

Also we should look at deportation laws especially for people who came post 2020. There are some quick and not crazy ways to mitigate (not fix) the issue. Bigger changes will need criminal code update.
 
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DesRicardo

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This would only happen in PeePee World where no one gets bail. In a Liberal run system, the guy gets out, keeps his job and doesn't lose his house, hires a lawyer and the mean wife is too scared to show up at trial.

That's why Liberal World is better than PeePee World.
OK. So it's fantasy talk where you create the rules off the top of your head. :ROFLMAO:

You're all ideology, not based on reality. This is why Justice is failing. You're not in reality.
 

DesRicardo

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Liberals spent $9 million on a edible cricket farm, but can't find money for a Corrections Facility?

What are we talking about here?
 

Frankfooter

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You didn't give me a single reason why the BILL he PROPOSED is flawed. Just some yapping about crime rate.
Just so you know, you talk about crime rate, not crime numbers. Crime numbers have increased, so you're wrong even here.
The population has increased, of course the numbers would go up.
Its the crime rate that you need to look at.

Otherwise you'd be saying there are 100 murders in a city of 10 million and that's just as dangerous as 100 murders in a city of 1000 people.

I gave you reasons, you won't take them.
Mandrill also posted the same reasons, you take the power of deciding who needs bail away from judges and that means more people in jail before they have been found guilty of a crime. If they are innocent it screws their lives over and on top of that costs the country more.
 

Frankfooter

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OK. So it's fantasy talk where you create the rules off the top of your head. :ROFLMAO:

You're all ideology, not based on reality. This is why Justice is failing. You're not in reality.
No, he described a scenario where some right winger could be accused of being a wife beater by an angry wife and have his life destroyed because he had no option of bail.
Are you saying you don't think anyone has ever been falsely accused of sexual assault?
Like trump?

In your argument, trump would have been behind bars after he was accused with no chance of bail.
 
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