Liberals and New Democrats reach a deal on pharmacare

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Deal sets out pharmacare framework and will cover contraception, diabetes treatment

The federal Liberal government and the NDP have come to an agreement on pharmacare, clearing the way for the two parties to continue operating under the confidence-and-supply agreement that has helped keep the government in power over the past two years.

In an interview with CBC's Rosemary Barton Live airing Sunday, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said weeks of talks between the two sides have produced draft legislation that will set out the framework for a national pharmacare program and, in the short term, new coverage for contraception and diabetes treatment.

A senior government source confirmed that an agreement had been reached.

"We've secured something really important, I would say really historic for Canadians. We're really excited about this," Singh said.

Singh said the coverage will be "universal" and work "very much like the system that's actually been rolled out in [British Columbia] for example for contraceptives." He said "a wide class of contraceptives" will be covered, "including [Intrauterine devices], prescription contraceptives and the emergency contraception that people take."

The NDP leader said "a wide range of insulin and other medication" will be covered for those suffering from diabetes.

In an interview with the CBC's Rosemary Barton Live, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says his party and the Liberals have arrived at a pharmacare deal that will cover contraception and diabetes medication.
Under the terms of the confidence-and-supply agreement signed in March 2022, the Liberal government committed to passing legislation — a Canada Pharmacare Act — by the end of 2023, in exchange for NDP support on key votes in the House of Commons. In December, the parties agreed to push back the deadline to March.

As the new deadline approached, Singh's public pressure on the government became louder — and private grumbling and threats leaked out to reporters. Singh said Friday that, by including coverage for contraception and diabetes, the pharmacare agreement goes beyond the original terms of the deal between the two parties.

Singh said the legislation "clearly points to [a] single payer" system and includes references to the Canada Health Act, the federal legislation that sets out the terms under which the federal government agrees to fund medicare services in Canada.

"We've gotten a lot. And more important, people are going to get some real help," Singh said.

The Liberal-NDP deal is set to run until June 2025.

Speaking to reporters in Nova Scotia on Thursday, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said his government is "committed to moving forward on creating a framework for pharmacare, because in a wealthy country like Canada, nobody should have to choose between buying groceries or buying much-needed medication."

Asked about the deal on Friday, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre criticized the government's record and said he wants to see the details of the plan.

"They make these promises and then in the end they deliver exactly the opposite of what they say," he told Windsor radio station AM 800 CKLW. "So let's see what actually comes out, who actually qualifies, and who can qualify, and let's find out what it will cost."

 

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This is a very unique policy for Canada once it is implemented. This is how it could help the Canadians who are risking losing their lives:

How much could a Canadian pharmacare plan save you? We looked in this 84-year-old's medicine cabinet

The federal Liberals and NDP have agreed to pass legislation outlining the framework for a universal national pharmacare program by March 1.


Of course this will piss off Pee Pee and those on the far right!!
 
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This is a very unique policy for Canada once it is implemented. This is how it could help the Canadians who are risking losing their lives:

How much could a Canadian pharmacare plan save you? We looked in this 84-year-old's medicine cabinet

The federal Liberals and NDP have agreed to pass legislation outlining the framework for a universal national pharmacare program by March 1.


Of course this will piss off Pee Pee and those on the far right!!
Time will tell. It’s a bunch of words right now. That
1) will sell well, tug at heart strings, you know where.

2) could end up like promises to
-run a small deficit and balanced budgets by 2018
-when was the last time there was a balanced budget?. Or when it’s “promised” to be balanced again?
-electoral reform
-be more transparent
-do govt differently
-meet climate targets
-help the middle class and those dreaming to join it ( see wealth gap)
-scrap the HST
-how much more would you like me to list?

3) re that senior/boomer
Maybe people should have listened to experts 20 years ago. And it’s just beginning. Any idea how many Boomers there are and how many meds there are. And how expensive they can are…ask anyone in the U.S.

Never mind brittle bones, aging eyes, hearts and arteries, and cancers, and knees and hips, and soooooooooooooiooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo very much more.

Never mind LTCs and peons without enough saved?
 
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Time will tell. It’s a bunch of words right now. That
1) will sell well, tug at heart strings, you know where.

2) could end up like promises to
-run a small deficit and balanced budgets by 2018
-when was the last time there was a balanced budget?. Or when it’s “promised” to be balanced again?
-electoral reform
-be more transparent
-do govt differently
-meet climate targets
-help the middle class and those dreaming to join it ( see wealth gap)
-scrap the HST
-how much more would you like me to list?

3) re that senior/boomer
Maybe people should have listened to experts 20 years ago. And it’s just beginning. Any idea how many Boomers there are and how many meds there are. And how expensive they can are…ask anyone in the U.S.

Never mind brittle bones, aging eyes, hearts and arteries, and cancers, and knees and hips, and soooooooooooooiooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo very much more.

Never mind LTCs and peons without enough saved?
We know, Drummond would cut health care instead so thats' what you want.
 

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Asked about the deal on Friday, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre criticized the government's record and said he wants to see the details of the plan.

"They make these promises and then in the end they deliver exactly the opposite of what they say," he told Windsor radio station AM 800 CKLW. "So let's see what actually comes out, who actually qualifies, and who can qualify, and let's find out what it will cost."
Perfectly legitimate response.
I want to see what the actual details are as well.
 

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Time will tell. It’s a bunch of words right now. That
1) will sell well, tug at heart strings, you know where.

2) could end up like promises to
-run a small deficit and balanced budgets by 2018
-when was the last time there was a balanced budget?. Or when it’s “promised” to be balanced again?
-electoral reform
-be more transparent
-do govt differently
-meet climate targets
-help the middle class and those dreaming to join it ( see wealth gap)
-scrap the HST
-how much more would you like me to list?

3) re that senior/boomer
Maybe people should have listened to experts 20 years ago. And it’s just beginning. Any idea how many Boomers there are and how many meds there are. And how expensive they can are…ask anyone in the U.S.

Never mind brittle bones, aging eyes, hearts and arteries, and cancers, and knees and hips, and soooooooooooooiooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo very much more.

Never mind LTCs and peons without enough saved?
Your posts are getting more and more hilarious. Fact is that there is a plan in motion for the PharmaCare. Something that is designed to help the Canadians that need it.
Obviously, the Conservatives will want to give more back to the elitist with the biggest tax breaks for them and crumbs to the rest of the Canadians. So this is a step in the right direction!!
 
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Your posts are getting more and more hilarious. Fact is that there is a plan in motion for the PharmaCare. Something that is designed to help the Canadians that need it.
Obviously, the Conservatives will want to give more back to the elitist with the biggest tax breaks for them and crumbs to the rest of the Canadians. So this is a step in the right direction!!
“excuse” me. Why don’t you try reading the post and comprehending English.

Stuggle much child?

Time will tell. It’s a bunch of words right now. That
1) will sell well, tug at heart strings, you know where.

Maybe one day you will grasp why your a cry baby, that’s batting 0.00% Yet again, the jokes on you.

That neither says it will or won’t. Only that it might not, given so many other things that have been promised but never materialized.

As for the cost.
do the math and maybe you too should have listened to experts that have been warning about this stuff for 20 years.
 
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Perfectly legitimate response.
I want to see what the actual details are as well.
We all are excited about the details. But okay, then why criticize the plan when he is "waiting" to see the details?
Does it not mean that he just hates the idea of Pharmacare for all?
 

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“excuse” me. Why don’t you try reading the post and comprehending English.

Stuggle much child?

Time will tell. It’s a bunch of words right now. That
1) will sell well, tug at heart strings, you know where.

Maybe one day you will grasp why you to a cry baby, that’s batting 0.00%
My English is far more Comprehensible than yours as you speak in riddles.
Just grow up!!
 

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We all are excited about the details. But okay, then why criticize the plan when he is "waiting" to see the details?
Does it not mean that he just hates the idea of Pharmacare for all?
He may, but I don' t think that's fair.
He is saying "Trudeau has been consistently full of shit, so why do you think the deal he will actually come up with is any good?"

That's a fair criticism to level at Trudeau.
Trudeau isn't exactly a stellar example of following through in a good way with things.

So for now he gets to position himself in a perfectly reasonable wait and see attitude.
As details come out, what Pollievre puts up as his objections will change and we can judge him on those later.
 
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He may, but I don' t think that's fair.
He is saying "Trudeau has been consistently full of shit, so why do you think the deal he will actually come up with is any good?"

That's a fair criticism to level at Trudeau.
Trudeau isn't exactly a stellar example of following through in a good way with things.

So for now he gets to position himself in a perfectly reasonable wait and see attitude.
As details come out, what Pollievre puts up as his objections will change and we can judge him on those later.
He is getting back to that pissed off characterization that the conservatives successfully made him address. However, even on the Vassy Kapelos Power Play, all the guests including Lisa Raitt criticized Pee Pee for this:

Trudeau said Poilievre's rhetoric was "concerning" given the Tories haven't seen the bill yet and don't know what it contains.

"So I think this is yet another example of Pierre Poilievre being irresponsible and not serious and choosing to play politics instead of actually focusing on what matters, which is how to keep our kids safe."
 

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He may, but I don' t think that's fair.
He is saying "Trudeau has been consistently full of shit, so why do you think the deal he will actually come up with is any good?"
I appreciate you trying to see the best of people, but in the case of NGY, you are inferring too much clarity and intent.
It makes you sound a bit like the rump supporters when they say 'he's not really racist and the Muslim ban was really.....'

Let him explain his posts on his own.
 

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Well......

Perhaps if the Liberals had put out the ACTUAL Plan with the announcement then criticism about not doing it wouldn't be a factor.

And looking at the NDP as well. This looks to me like Singh gave an ultimatum to his GF, when neither wanted to break up. But his leadership was under pressure to follow up. And Trudeau is desperate for good news. So they met, agreed to a limited bare bones deal(and for the record I agree with paying for diabetic meds) to keep the agreement in looking at the poll numbers. And stave off internal party pressures.

But until they release actual numbers, its just a promise that can be conveniently forgotten.
 
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He is getting back to that pissed off characterization that the conservatives successfully made him address. However, even on the Vassy Kapelos Power Play, all the guests including Lisa Raitt criticized Pee Pee for this:
Was there more than just what was in the article in the OP?
Because I have no reason to criticize that, it is pretty clearly about his trust in the government and says to hold off until the details are out.
If he went off more then that might be different.

I appreciate you trying to see the best of people, but in the case of NGY, you are inferring too much clarity and intent.
It makes you sound a bit like the rump supporters when they say 'he's not really racist and the Muslim ban was really.....'

Let him explain his posts on his own.
I'm not talking about NGY.
I'm talking about Pollievre.
I haven't engaged with NGY at all here except to acknowledge his apology for posting in the wrong thread.
 
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Was there more than just what was in the article in the OP?
Because I have no reason to criticize that, it is pretty clearly about his trust in the government and says to hold off until the details are out.
If he went off more then that might be different.
Well PeePee went over the top with a Bill that he has not seen as yet, but to then come up with this over the top statement and as usual stated that he would vote against it even though he has not seen it and it is designed to protect the children who are vulnerable to online hate, sexual exploitation and extortion:

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has already signalled his concerns about the idea of a new regulator and questioned who the government would appoint.
He told reporters on Wednesday that he plans to oppose the upcoming bill, calling it Trudeau’s “latest attack on freedom of expression” and adding the prime minister cannot distinguish between hate speech and “speech he hates.”
 

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Well PeePee went over the top with a Bill that he has not seen as yet, but to then come up with this over the top statement and as usual stated that he would vote against it even though he has not seen it and it is designed to protect the children who are vulnerable to online hate, sexual exploitation and extortion:
" He told reporters on Wednesday that he plans to oppose the upcoming bill, calling it Trudeau’s “latest attack on freedom of expression” and adding the prime minister cannot distinguish between hate speech and “speech he hates.”

Yeah.
That's just bullshit and he gets no props from me for that.
 
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