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That makes it sound like you are very concerned about this.
, women aren't upset about this and there are only a handful of trans athletes anyways.
Martina Navratilova is up on ''X'' against it quite a lot...Next you're going to tell me she's a right winger, lol.
 
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Why is it that you, and others (especially guys like @canada-man) who supposedly believe in individual freedom and liberty are so bothered by people who don’t conform to a binary definition of gender? Nobody is forcing you guys to cut your dicks off unless you truly want to
I don't think anyone really gives a shit if some dude wants to identify as a female and even live as a female.

It's when they insist they are biologically female because reality is a thing and then demand that other people see them 100% as a female that they cross the line, and that is an issue of individual freedom and liberty.

I identify as a girl
Sure
Call me Jane
Maybe, depending on if I feel like it or not
I am a biological female
Erm, you need help
I demand that you treat me as a woman, and if you refuse to date me because you don't accept my femaleness you are a hate monger bigot
Go fuck yourself.

As for surgeries, fine, it's a matter of liberty, a 12 year old should be able to consent to surgeries. So they should also be able to enter contracts, do porn, get married etc.
No because they are not fucking adults. Informed consent, it's a thing.

You are just strawmaning, I guess it's easier to dehumanize the people you disagree with than to consider their actual positions.
 

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I have no issue with some people being intersex or having the emotional and physical characteristics of the gender which does not correspond with their genitalia. Dylan Mulvaney is a very effeminate person who was born with a dick and I have no problem with him / her dressing as a woman and having that dick removed.

But a massive fucking chunk of a dude like Bruce Jenner who decides one day that he's a fucking lady?!?!?!?.... C'mon! The guy just likes dressing up in lady's clothes and the added fuss and attention is a bonus.
If Bruce wants to live as a chick and have people call him Caitlen or whatever it is, that is his right.
It is our right not to play along with it.

I have less problem with him than I do with Dylan Mulvaney
1: His X days of being a girl is just filled with extreme and insulting stereotypes, if I were to go on about how that is what being a girl is, people would shit on me and not in some sort of kink way. I mean his videos are not any different than me doing X days of being a black and wondering why I know who my father is and celebrating eating fried chicken and smoking crack. He gets a pass, why?
2: I saw him in a clip on the Price is Right when he was just a bog standard flaming gay dude and, man that guy some issues. I know on the price is right you are told to ham it up, but both than and now, he must be manic, which I guess isn't his fault but it is annoying
3: He has put out videos wondering why he hasn't had his period yet. Another video he claimed to tell his father that he was going to meet a girl and get preggers [as in him with the baby, not as a couple.] This is delusion, a detachment from reality about as strong as the Trump won the election and Andrew Taint respects women and isn't a pimp level Delulu.
3a: Despite his being obviously mentally ill, he still gets an audience with the president of the United States... not as an advocate of mental illness but for his bullshittery.
4: He is being put forward as a spokeman for women.

Bruce by comparison is just leading his life for the most part.
 
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women aren't upset about this...
Its a whiny little issue where you get really, really upset that you don't know what's in someone's pants cuz you're worried you might be attracted to someone and then find out you think they are male and all of a sudden you're gay.
You just can't stop lying can you.

Also you don't know, maybe he said no homo therefor even if he signs on for 20 dudes to run a train on him it isn't gay. Or maybe he is only attracted to three ways and according to Lonely Island and Lady Gaga, it's not gay if it's in a three way. Or maybe he has some legitimate concerns.

Liar.
 

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How bout you help us and explain your beliefs?
When the stars are aligned, Cthulhu will awake from his sunken city in R'lyeh and destroy us all.

Also I don't care much for that Hitler fellow, a very unpleasant guy, even though he killed Hitler, although I do agree with him, donuts are delirious.

No matter how evil the big bads like Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, King Leopold, Frankfooter, and the small bads like Paul Bernardo, Ted Bundy etc are, they are all in league with Justin Beiber the source of all evil.

Pineapple doesn't not belong on pizza, it's your right, just stay the fuck away from me.

Twice> Blackpink> Girls Generation. Wanna fight about it?

Kate Micucci is hotter... end of story. Even if Kate was born Kyle, not a deal breaker.
 

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I couldn't care less about the Israel-Palestine conflict. I don't live there, the outcome has no bearing on my life, and it's only a handful of people like you who claim it's a genocide.

The truth matters, Frank. In all things.
Read the reports if you want the truth, the polls say that most Biden supporters think its genocide. It'll cost him the election.

But if we're talking about issues that have no bearing on your life, trans athletes has to be #1 along with the election results in Luxembourg.
 

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When the stars are aligned, Cthulhu will awake from his sunken city in R'lyeh and destroy us all.

Also I don't care much for that Hitler fellow, a very unpleasant guy, even though he killed Hitler, although I do agree with him, donuts are delirious.

No matter how evil the big bads like Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, King Leopold, Frankfooter, and the small bads like Paul Bernardo, Ted Bundy etc are, they are all in league with Justin Beiber the source of all evil.

Pineapple doesn't not belong on pizza, it's your right, just stay the fuck away from me.

Twice> Blackpink> Girls Generation. Wanna fight about it?

Kate Micucci is hotter... end of story. Even if Kate was born Kyle, not a deal breaker.
The spaghetti monster will take out Cthulhu.
And zionists will forever on your list as #2 or #3.
 

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Well…you’re the one who wants to argue. I’m not gonna do your homework for you. If you actually gave af you would have already read the article.

FWIW…I haven’t even read the article, either, because I don’t really give af. What if there are 72 genders? Let’s just say, for the sake of argument, that it actually turns out to be true? Who cares? Does this idea change or alter your life in any way? Of course not.

Which brings me back to my point that the only reason you guys wanna discuss this topic is to weaponize it and give you permission to attack a marginalized group and feel somehow better about your own shitty lives.
Another cop out just admit you have no evidence for the 72 genders claim
 
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If Bruce wants to live as a chick and have people call him Caitlen or whatever it is, that is his right.
It is our right not to play along with it.

I have less problem with him than I do with Dylan Mulvaney
1: His X days of being a girl is just filled with extreme and insulting stereotypes, if I were to go on about how that is what being a girl is, people would shit on me and not in some sort of kink way. I mean his videos are not any different than me doing X days of being a black and wondering why I know who my father is and celebrating eating fried chicken and smoking crack. He gets a pass, why?
2: I saw him in a clip on the Price is Right when he was just a bog standard flaming gay dude and, man that guy some issues. I know on the price is right you are told to ham it up, but both than and now, he must be manic, which I guess isn't his fault but it is annoying
3: He has put out videos wondering why he hasn't had his period yet. Another video he claimed to tell his father that he was going to meet a girl and get preggers [as in him with the baby, not as a couple.] This is delusion, a detachment from reality about as strong as the Trump won the election and Andrew Taint respects women and isn't a pimp level Delulu.
3a: Despite his being obviously mentally ill, he still gets an audience with the president of the United States... not as an advocate of mental illness but for his bullshittery.
4: He is being put forward as a spokeman for women.

Bruce by comparison is just leading his life for the most part.
Really?

I just saw a couple of clips of him / her at the time of the Coors Lite horseshit and thought "That person really looks like a girl."
 

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Okay, let's put our ideologies on what is write or wrong from a person's gender identity.

This ruling is actually better for women's athletes. Like it or not, men are physiologically stronger than women, let's use the last Olympics as an example:

100 meter freestyle swimming
Women's gold medalist time: 51.96
Men's 54th place finisher: 51.94

Weigthlifting
Women's 64kg Gold Medalist: 236.0 (Canadian Maude Garon Charron)
Men's 51Kg Last Place finisher: 240

These are just two random sports I picked, so had the last place male weightlifter been allowed to compete as a woman, they would have a gold medal.

The only way for there to be fairness and equal competition is to allow a Transgender category along with Women's and Men's. The IOC would love it as they would have more events to monetize, lefties would love it as all athletes are allowed to compete, and righties would love it as there is isolationism between genders.
 

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The only way for there to be fairness and equal competition is to allow a Transgender category along with Women's and Men's.
That's the thing......THEY DO!!!

There is an Open category for anyone to compete in. They don't want it. They don't want a logical resolution, they want you to submit.
 
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Why is it that people like you have to project some kind of anger or resentment onto the people you argue with?
Mandy, now I'm concerned you are trapped in someone else's body. ;)
 

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Okay, let's put our ideologies on what is write or wrong from a person's gender identity.

This ruling is actually better for women's athletes. Like it or not, men are physiologically stronger than women, let's use the last Olympics as an example:

100 meter freestyle swimming
Women's gold medalist time: 51.96
Men's 54th place finisher: 51.94

Weigthlifting
Women's 64kg Gold Medalist: 236.0 (Canadian Maude Garon Charron)
Men's 51Kg Last Place finisher: 240

These are just two random sports I picked, so had the last place male weightlifter been allowed to compete as a woman, they would have a gold medal.

The only way for there to be fairness and equal competition is to allow a Transgender category along with Women's and Men's. The IOC would love it as they would have more events to monetize, lefties would love it as all athletes are allowed to compete, and righties would love it as there is isolationism between genders.
you forget how the woke would feel about this...they feel they are a woman so they should be categorized as one..you're just a bigot for not agreeing with their feelings...
 
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Okay, let's put our ideologies on what is write or wrong from a person's gender identity.

This ruling is actually better for women's athletes. Like it or not, men are physiologically stronger than women, let's use the last Olympics as an example:

100 meter freestyle swimming
Women's gold medalist time: 51.96
Men's 54th place finisher: 51.94

Weigthlifting
Women's 64kg Gold Medalist: 236.0 (Canadian Maude Garon Charron)
Men's 51Kg Last Place finisher: 240

These are just two random sports I picked, so had the last place male weightlifter been allowed to compete as a woman, they would have a gold medal.

The only way for there to be fairness and equal competition is to allow a Transgender category along with Women's and Men's. The IOC would love it as they would have more events to monetize, lefties would love it as all athletes are allowed to compete, and righties would love it as there is isolationism between genders.
I would also add that very low place finishers aren't achieving that rank globally. If the major Olympic countries entrants all finished ahead of these low place male athletes, hundreds and likely thousands of male athletes with far better performances than the women's golf medalist could not qualify for a spot on their national Olympic teams.

For the Men's 100 meter freestyle swimming event, the qualifying time for NCAA Division I championships was 41.50. The time for the Division II (smaller schools) championships was 43.46.
 

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Science has evolved over the years
Of course it has. But when I was in HS we were taught there are only XX and XY Chromosomes (female and male gender).
Now science claims there's 72 genders.
If thats true, could you list for us the chromosome sequences for all 72 genders, please??
 
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The rules apply to everyone, ...
And the rules are made up by the organizations involved. If they are a pro-league, then consumers will decide whether or not to support it. When it is governmental overseen agencies, voters are allowed to have a say.
 

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Trans athletes don't have real advantages, any advantage is short lived after hormone treatment takes effect.
Science is still unsettled. There MAY be some lasting benefits but as has been said many times, all winning athletes have an advantage and the numbers of trans-athletes are too small to get reliable data.
 
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