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Leger poll has Tories in third, NDP leading

bver_hunter

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Great to see the Conservatives at the bottom where they belong to. Very encouraging news for Justin and the Liberals as they have the greatest percentage increase as compared to a month ago.
 

nottyboi

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Unlike the terb poll, this one is not based on wealthier middle age white guys that like being told they are perverts and abusers of women.. lol
 

onthebottom

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Unfortunately I think Canadians will turn at the last minute from the NDP as they look to win and hand Harper a minority government.
 

jcpro

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Doesn't really mean anything at this point. It's still middle of the summer. Justin surging might not be a good news anyway. Just larger chance of vote splitting since both, the NDP and the Libs, are courting the same voters.
 

Moviefan-2

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I haven't paid close attention to the polls, but it strikes me there have been inconsistent result when it comes to Ontario -- particularly the NDP's support in Ontario.

In this city, the sign wars are no help. It doesn't look like many people have lawn signs up yet.
 

onthebottom

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Did you think they would do that in Alberta, too?
I didn't follow that but your right, odd that one of the most conservative provinces would go hard left wing.... Perhaps in the face of falling oil prices they wanted to make sure the gravy flowed...
 

K Douglas

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I didn't follow that but your right, odd that one of the most conservative provinces would go hard left wing.... Perhaps in the face of falling oil prices they wanted to make sure the gravy flowed...
Conservatives won't lose Alberta. The main reason why NDP formed the provincial gov't is because the Wild Rose and PC party split the right wing vote. Currently polling at about 50% I don't see that changing much. This election is shaping up to be a minority gov't for someone.
 

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Conservatives won't lose Alberta. The main reason why NDP formed the provincial gov't is because the Wild Rose and PC party split the right wing vote. Currently polling at about 50% I don't see that changing much. This election is shaping up to be a minority gov't for someone.
Polls in Alberta have been dramatically wrong in every recent election.
 

Aardvark154

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Unfortunately I think Canadians will turn at the last minute from the NDP as they look to win and hand Harper a minority government.
Which might not be all that bad a result.

This is so especially when one considers that the likelihood of either a NDP or Liberal Government doing anything to repeal C-36 is somewhere between slim and none.
 

ogibowt

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mahovolich is been quiet in this thread , while babbling in all the others
 

fuji

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Which might not be all that bad a result.

This is so especially when one considers that the likelihood of either a NDP or Liberal Government doing anything to repeal C-36 is somewhere between slim and none.
While that is true we wouldn't have had c36 if at had voted better last time, and we will get more surprises like c36 if we vote wrong again. The Liberals and the NDP aren't going to champion our rights but they were both far more likely to quietly do nothing and let the court decision stand.

C36 is likely to get appealed and sent back to Parliament for at least some changes. Who do you want drafting those changes?
 

omegaphallic

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http://leger360.com/admin/upload/publi_pdf/soen20150815.pdf

More details very worth a read. If you look at it, voters are more likely to switch to the NDP to stop Harper then for voters to switch to CPC to stop Mulcair.

Compare who dominates in both in first, second choices choices. Barring a huge blunder by Tom Mulcair, your looking at an NDP government, people outside of the CPC hate Steven Harper. Look at the huge numbers of voters who would never concider voting for the CPC, vs. the tiny number who would never vote NDP.

Even amoung the CPC vote the NDP is the second choice of about a 5th of them.

Look at the numbers saying they want a change in Government vs. those who want the current government to remain in office (those who want it to remain are only 21%).

The CPC is in deep shit and right now this election is the NDPs to lose.

Outside of the polls the NDP is pulling in star candiates, like the former Finance Minister of Sask whose budget had a 2 billion dollar surplus (and just to give you rightwingers a boner, he also had the largest tax cuts in the provinces history) vs. Joe Oliver who has once agian falled to balance a budget, just the lastest failure, no surprise when they offered 14 billion in bribes, er promises, mostly to targeted ridings, before the election was even called, and he hasn't slowed down since!

BTW I'm predicting Joe Oliver loses Eglington Lawerence, to Andrew Thompson, the NDP candiate, as I suspect much of the Liberal vote will turn towards the NDP in the riding.

Plus Trudeau is an idiot who once again said no to a coalition government which tells swing NDP-Liberal voters that a vote for Justin Trudeau is a vote for Steven Harper.
 

omegaphallic

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http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/ne...-believe-in-backroom-deals&pubdate=2015-08-18

Trudeau is truely an idiot, the NDP loves it went he rules out a Coalition to stop Harper, which btw has overwhelming support about both Liberal and NDP supporters. This is why I expect a massive shift towards the NDP from the Liberals sometime in October, some Liberal voters may have stayed voting Liberal in the hopes that the Liberals would have influence, but once again Trudeau reminds these swing voters that he choses Harper instead.
 

Butler1000

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And Nanos has a virtual tie. Tories at 31%. NDP at 29%. Lib at 28%.

Regionally (All within the margin of error) has Tories with over 50 on the Prairies and 42 on Ontario. NDP well ahead in B.C. And Quebec although the Libs are a lot closer there and the Bloc up a bit.

Libs with 45 in Atlantic Canada.

Don't be surprised by a Conservative Minority and possible Majority. It will depend a lot on the regional breakdowns. Ontario is the key to with 121 seats. Toronto I think will split Three ways. 905 and further north Tories.

I think the NDP may lose a few on Quebec. And gain a few elsewhere. I don't see a breakthrough for them. Remember as well the demographic that votes. NDP is a younger crowd. Unless they get them to the booths their support is worthless.
 

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Polls in Alberta have been dramatically wrong in every recent election.
Poll been wrong in Quebec as well.
 

herbnessman

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http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/ne...-believe-in-backroom-deals&pubdate=2015-08-18

Trudeau is truely an idiot, the NDP loves it went he rules out a Coalition to stop Harper, which btw has overwhelming support about both Liberal and NDP supporters. This is why I expect a massive shift towards the NDP from the Liberals sometime in October, some Liberal voters may have stayed voting Liberal in the hopes that the Liberals would have influence, but once again Trudeau reminds these swing voters that he choses Harper instead.
Why would any party leader in the early stages of a tight election state he is open to a coalition government?

You are essentially conceding the possibility of defeat. His tune may certainly change in late September.
 
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