Leafs PK in January !

[Ironhead]

No other NHL team has ever done what the Leafs have just accomplished.

Killing off every penalty in a month of the regular season(according to sources).

It was a great help that the Leafs reduced their penalties by quite a bit, about 18 in the 12 games played in January. The defence have played well and the forwards have done their part. Maybe they are finally listening to Wilson. The Leafs have extended the penalty killing streak two games into February now. 14 games with out a PP goal against.

Way to go Blue !

 

[shack]

No other NHL team has ever done what the Leafs have just accomplished.

Killing off every penalty in a month of the regular season(according to sources).

It was a great help that the Leafs reduced their penalties by quite a bit, about 18 in the 12 games played in January. The defence have played well and the forwards have done their part. Maybe they are finally listening to Wilson. The Leafs have extended the penalty killing streak two games into February now. 14 games with out a PP goal against.

Way to go Blue !

All the people calling for Wilson's head put the blame on him when the PK was going bad. Although credit should now be given to him (and the fact he has them playing very disciplined--so few penalties) it must be just a fluke.

Those guys have all been pretty quiet lately.

 

[blackrock13]

Well, the Leafs are still 29th, which just goes to show you how bad they were before this current (short) streak.
Not taking penalties is better than being able to kill them.
Anyway, it all starts in net.

Yet their PP is 5th. I think it kelly Ruddy that pointed to that a team that has a combination value of both factors in the top half you're doing just fine.

That puts them 17th and climbing. The PP was 2 for 5 last night btw.

 

[fmahovalich]

Amazing really.... No short handed goals in 2012.

Man..did they, make Ottawa look bad last night!

 

[blackrock13]

It's such an idiotic argument by Hrudey. So, if you have a good power play, you don't have to worry about a bad penalty kill? That makes a lot of sense.
The fact is, mediocre teams are on the bubble for a playoff position, so OVERALL you should strive to be well above average if you want to have a good shot at things - that is, strive to improve the things that are bad, regardless of how good the rest of your game is. Duh.
The fact that the Leafs PP is 5th should in no way affect their determination to improve on what has been, to this point, a TERRIBLE PK. They have made strides this year, no doubt about it, which is probably a lot of the reason that they've climbed back into a playoff spot.

If i remember back in Oiler heydays in the late 80's, when they were asked about the problem on defence, their response was when you score more than the opposition, who really cares about defence. In 83-84, they scored 446 goals (1st and still a record) and had 314 against(10th) in 21 team league.

The PK is a weakness but right now they are going in thew right direction. They are a middling team and will end there, on the bubble, in or out of the playoffs is anyones guess

 

[blackrock13]

I'd be amazed if anyone in the organization actually said that. Nice try.
Anybody who thinks the Leafs and 80's Oilers belong in the same sentence is delusional.

Well, it wasn't a quote, but it was the message. Are you saying it's wrong? I'm not comparing the two, just the point of score more than the other side and you win. They did that in spades. One other team in the conference had a plus in for/against and that was Minnesota at +1

 

[blackrock13]

The message from who? I truly have no idea what you're saying except that if you set a record for Goals Scored, you'll probably be a pretty good team, as long as your defense isn't historically bad at the same time.
Anyway, the job, as you've tangentially pointed out, is to score as much as possible while giving up as few as possible. If you think that equates to trying to concentrate on one half of the equation to the exclusion of the other, or that being good at something means you don't have to work hard at improving the things you're not good at, I don't know what to say. I can imagine Sather blowing off his team's defensive shortcomings because they had a bunch of offensively skilled players. Yeah. Right. I'm sure they spent NO time working on improving their defense.

(Plus, of course, never mind that in 83-84, the Oilers were pretty much the only good team in the Campbell, but the Wales had SIX teams that were +58 or better. And that in 85-86, they scored 426 goals, but were dumped by the Flames in the second round.)

Tangentially, not at all. It's simpler than that. Score more than them, don't care about how many they score. Nor did I say that they spent no time on defense. They did have the 10th best in the league. They did have Paul Coffey anchoring defense, arguable one of the best offensive defenseman to play and not surprisingly second only to Ray Bourque in points.

 

[Ironhead]

"Score more than them, don't care about how many they score." The real world doesn't work like that. No team has ever operated under such principles.

Ah ... when did you turn off your brain Fonz ?
Yes it is true. If you score more than them why do you care how many they score(especially in game seven of the final) ?

 

[Ironhead]

The Blue penalty kill is rolling, 16 games and counting.
All through January and four games into February. Not bad considering the first half of the season.
They may still rank near the bottom over all for the season to this point, but right now the PK is going fine. If not number one, got to be top three in the NHL.



Go Blue !

 

[Ironhead]

"Score more than them, don't care about how many they score." The real world doesn't work like that. No team has ever operated under such principles.

Again, you are the one who had(see quote above) the brilliant line of the score does not matter, that the real world does not operate in such a manner .... furthermore how does the real world come into this discussion about sports. The real world is so far removed from sports it is not even fit into this discussion.

As far as I can see ...

Toronto is in seventh
Ottawa eighth

Then after recent results ...
Winnipeg 2 Toronto 1(in regulation), Philadelphia 4 Toronto 3(in regulation), Ottawa 4 Nashville 3

Ottawa is seventh
Toronto eighth

Yet somehow in your world scoring more then your opponent does not count for much.
You do understand how sports works do you not ?
Now I am not the genius you appear to be, but I do know if Toronto wins(scores more then their opponents) those two games, they would still be ahead of Ottawa.