Leafs - Flyers - Game One
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What's a grading?Kathleen said:
I actually enjoyed this game (though not the outcome obviously). It was nice to see some open skating and the Leafs shooting the puck a little more. (Not much more though.) I found in the Ottawa / Toronto series there were almost always 2 bodies on the puck; here it seem the players are able to skate around more and play a more open game.
too big?
The flyers are too big, too lucky and too smart?
How about parking everybody on the leafs in the crease. I have no problems with our players "introducing" themselves to Esche.
The flyers are too big, too lucky and too smart?
How about parking everybody on the leafs in the crease. I have no problems with our players "introducing" themselves to Esche.
It went off of Antripov's skate on a shot on net, hardly a lucky bounce. The goal that Domi was given credit for that went off of Smoke's skate as he was back checking would probably be consider more of a 'lucky bounce', but is was creditied to Domi's girt. Careful you don't suck and blow at the same time here.the_big_E said:
In the end the only thing that matters is the score and it was Philly 3 Leafs 1. No excuses!
Both teams fought reasonably hard - the Leafs looked tired by the third, predictably, but clearly could at least *skate with* the Flyers, unlike the Sens.
Antropov's goal - good god, man, let Eddie play the shot - terrible goal.
Both the other Flyers' goals were due to Kaberle's TOTALLY INEPT PLAY in front of his own net.
In some thread somewhere in here, I stated point blank that Kaberle deserves to sit - in favour of Belak, if needs be.
Let me just restate that proposition here.
Ugh. Terrible.
The Leafs should come out harder, overall, in game two - if not, clearly there's trouble ahead.
And, yes, OBVIOUSLY the Flyers played better AS A TEAM. They won, didn't they? Whoever wins has played better as a team. Fortunately, my point seems to have gotten across.
Antropov's goal - good god, man, let Eddie play the shot - terrible goal.
Both the other Flyers' goals were due to Kaberle's TOTALLY INEPT PLAY in front of his own net.
In some thread somewhere in here, I stated point blank that Kaberle deserves to sit - in favour of Belak, if needs be.
Let me just restate that proposition here.
Ugh. Terrible.
The Leafs should come out harder, overall, in game two - if not, clearly there's trouble ahead.
And, yes, OBVIOUSLY the Flyers played better AS A TEAM. They won, didn't they? Whoever wins has played better as a team. Fortunately, my point seems to have gotten across.
*sigh* Here we go again.
YES. Why, you ask?
Because the team that had one shot had a goalie that played the greatest game in NHL history, and *read carefully here* goaltending factors into overall team play.
Try this: did the winning team's goalie outplay the other team? Yes, he did - he outplayed their whole friggin' team. Forget about everyone else. Imagine the goalie was the only guy playing for that team - he practically was, in your example. That team outplayed the losing team, right? Clear? Well, he at least would have played them to a 0-0 draw. The rest of the skaters managed one fluke goal, which is one more goal, fluke or otherwise, then the losing side, right? So, that team outplayed the other team.
Now, you may argue, the team with one shot one goal scored an utter fluke, and the teams really should have played a scoreless tie. That's fine. Go ahead. Of course, I guess they had a guy in front off of whose ass to score.
YES. Why, you ask?
Because the team that had one shot had a goalie that played the greatest game in NHL history, and *read carefully here* goaltending factors into overall team play.
Try this: did the winning team's goalie outplay the other team? Yes, he did - he outplayed their whole friggin' team. Forget about everyone else. Imagine the goalie was the only guy playing for that team - he practically was, in your example. That team outplayed the losing team, right? Clear? Well, he at least would have played them to a 0-0 draw. The rest of the skaters managed one fluke goal, which is one more goal, fluke or otherwise, then the losing side, right? So, that team outplayed the other team.
Now, you may argue, the team with one shot one goal scored an utter fluke, and the teams really should have played a scoreless tie. That's fine. Go ahead. Of course, I guess they had a guy in front off of whose ass to score.
Sorry dude, what don't I get?
It actually appears that YOU don't get it!
Did the goalie outplay the losing team's players? Uh, yes - they were trying to score, he was trying to stop them from scoring - he succeeded one hundred percent. He OUTPLAYED them.
Did the skaters outplay the losing team's goalie? Well, they scored on their only shot - you can call this a fluke, if you want - but, in reality, he failed to stop ANY shots. The skaters OUTPLAYED the losing team's goalie - at worst, you can say it was undecided.
So: the winning team's goalie outplayed the other team's skaters, and the winning team's skaters at least weren't outplayed by the other team's goalie.
BUT, you're going to say that the winning team was outplayed!?
LOL
Do you have anything intelligent to add, other than "LAFAO..you don't get it do you"?
Probably not. Look, if you're going to argue, at least make some effort. ROTFLMAO
It actually appears that YOU don't get it!
Did the goalie outplay the losing team's players? Uh, yes - they were trying to score, he was trying to stop them from scoring - he succeeded one hundred percent. He OUTPLAYED them.
Did the skaters outplay the losing team's goalie? Well, they scored on their only shot - you can call this a fluke, if you want - but, in reality, he failed to stop ANY shots. The skaters OUTPLAYED the losing team's goalie - at worst, you can say it was undecided.
So: the winning team's goalie outplayed the other team's skaters, and the winning team's skaters at least weren't outplayed by the other team's goalie.
BUT, you're going to say that the winning team was outplayed!?
LOL
Do you have anything intelligent to add, other than "LAFAO..you don't get it do you"?
Probably not. Look, if you're going to argue, at least make some effort. ROTFLMAO
Cnd-Guy: Don't bother. This is just proof you can't argue with a vapid Leaf fan. MOST Leaf fans listen to logic and reason. For some reason it's lost on others.
Wow - cheap shot, Goober. It's beneath you. Very disappointing. I guess I should expect no less from a bitter Sens fan. Maybe others who've posted to that effect were right on.
I won't talk about this in any other thread from this point on. Please check out my thread entitled "Outplaying vs. Winning" if you're interested in debating this further.
The Leafs outplayed the Sens in Round One, and were outplayed last night.
Very disappointing. I guess I should expect no less from a bitter Sens fan. Maybe others who've posted to that effect were right on.I won't talk about this in any other thread from this point on. Please check out my thread entitled "Outplaying vs. Winning" if you're interested in debating this further.
The Leafs outplayed the Sens in Round One, and were outplayed last night.
game 1
One lucky goal each, as the Mogilny goal was far from pure. Off a Philly D-man, but at least he was playing a man in front of the net unlike Kaberle. Leafs generated little offence. Failed to take advantage of Kapenan. Why wouldn't Leetch and McCabe be on the ice to try to force the play when Hitchcock put his 4th forward out? He was allowed to continue to take regular turn throughout the night because Toronto stopped punishing physically and didn't try to matchup. I know its hard when the home team has last change, and its not Quinn's syle, but you have to take advantage where you can!
Philly showed two real strengths. Controlling the puck in Toronto's end. Leafs D has to do a better job of controlling the cycle and chipping the puck out. Secondly they clogged the neutral zone very well. Few odd man rushes, no speed through the middle. They will a contribution from Sundin to win the series.
One lucky goal each, as the Mogilny goal was far from pure. Off a Philly D-man, but at least he was playing a man in front of the net unlike Kaberle. Leafs generated little offence. Failed to take advantage of Kapenan. Why wouldn't Leetch and McCabe be on the ice to try to force the play when Hitchcock put his 4th forward out? He was allowed to continue to take regular turn throughout the night because Toronto stopped punishing physically and didn't try to matchup. I know its hard when the home team has last change, and its not Quinn's syle, but you have to take advantage where you can!
Philly showed two real strengths. Controlling the puck in Toronto's end. Leafs D has to do a better job of controlling the cycle and chipping the puck out. Secondly they clogged the neutral zone very well. Few odd man rushes, no speed through the middle. They will a contribution from Sundin to win the series.
Grading is something you do when you think your teams going to lose.Maybe she will be doing the same on Sunday night.xarir said:
A good post Ranger.Ranger68 said:Both teams fought reasonably hard - the Leafs looked tired by the third, predictably, but clearly could at least *skate with* the Flyers, unlike the Sens.
Antropov's goal - good god, man, let Eddie play the shot - terrible goal.
Both the other Flyers' goals were due to Kaberle's TOTALLY INEPT PLAY in front of his own net.
In some thread somewhere in here, I stated point blank that Kaberle deserves to sit - in favour of Belak, if needs be.
Let me just restate that proposition here.
Ugh. Terrible.
The Leafs should come out harder, overall, in game two - if not, clearly there's trouble ahead.
And, yes, OBVIOUSLY the Flyers played better AS A TEAM. They won, didn't they? Whoever wins has played better as a team. Fortunately, my point seems to have gotten across.
I am a little surprised that Toronto didn't play as well in game 1 as I thought they would have. Usually a team rides that "RUSH" or "HIGH" coming out of a 7 game series and then falls flat in game 2. We'll see what happens.
I agree that Kaberle and Anti-Pov should sit. They both are not playing well.
Re: ranger
Tired teams, on average, don't play as well as rested teams. I'll point out the study page on the Internet, if you'd like. This doesn't mean that a rested team ALWAYS beats a fresh team - only that rested teams play better, on average.
Clear?
I'm not complaining or making excuses - I'm explaining.pistol said:
Tired teams, on average, don't play as well as rested teams. I'll point out the study page on the Internet, if you'd like. This doesn't mean that a rested team ALWAYS beats a fresh team - only that rested teams play better, on average.
Clear?
