LCBO well suited to sell marijuana when legal, Kathleen Wynne says

GameBoy27

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Most will like the fact they can drive to the LCBO now.
Not everyone drives...

I get where the you are going. But you forget the inherent laziness of people. And probably a bit more for the average smoker. They won't grow it themselves anymore than the average drinker brews his own.

Soon the stories will begin exholing the virtues of commercial grown pot vs bad old illegal pot. Medical stories, crime stories etc. There will be slick beer commercial style marketing campaigns. And there will be a crackdown on the illegal growers.

Many of the large illegal growers will go legit if they are able to. So you will find illegal supplies dwindling. Remember it's easy to find because we are a major producer. So if they choose to go legit (and many will) then the LCBO becomes the pipeline.

The only place you will be able to get it in the long run will be either the California model as you mentioned for home growers, The LCBO, and the Native reserves.

That's my prediction for about 5-10 years after this is done.
Some illegal producers could possibly go legit but if the LCBO thinks they can charge double the current price for weed, they will simply fuel the black market. Just like they've done by taxing cigarettes.
 

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Like with booze, they'll take 30 years and, in the end, they'll fuck it up. And after they legalize it, they will slap so many taxes and regulations on the weed, I will still keep buying it from the "guy". Who has a wide selection, competitive prices and delivers. Plus, when the mood is right, I can grab some coke or smack, shrooms or acid, too. Wynn and her responsible six pack scheme can kiss my ass.
 

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One other thing to remember. When it comes to "competition", do you really think the status quo will last? The OPP will commence a major crackdown. They are after all stealing tax dollars.

That's why I said the reserves we make out well. It's the only no go place for the OPP.

Your neighbourhood dealer is going to find supply lines drying up between legitimizing and busts. Prices will rise to reflect that. It will take time. But it will happen.

Sure there will be a underground. But the above ground will win. It did with booze. Cigarettes they way over taxed because they know how hooked smokers are. Pot less so. It won't be over taxed initially. It will build.

She is salivating over this, don't think she will let the dealers take the money she wants. And Justin is beholden to a pot grower who was also his campaign manager. Don't doubt they have a piece of the action.

With the authorities as their legit enforcers.
 

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Depending on how the legislation is drafted, wouldn't it be nice if it could open a door for importation, too...

If so, Jamaican Sensi and Thai sticks could figure in to the equation... I know, it's a fantasy, a dream, but why not dream if you are able?

Perry
 

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Depending on how the legislation is drafted, wouldn't it be nice if it could open a door for importation, too...

If so, Jamaican Sensi and Thai sticks could figure in to the equation... I know, it's a fantasy, a dream, but why not dream if you are able?

Perry
I'm sure it will. They get to charge tax on it. It's exotic. And reduces the options for illegal importers.

Just like with wine, scotch etc.
 

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Not everyone drives...



Some illegal producers could possibly go legit but if the LCBO thinks they can charge double the current price for weed, they will simply fuel the black market. Just like they've done by taxing cigarettes.
You keep saying charge double do you have a link to proposed pot prices?
 

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This is just the beginning of the Federal Government's way of controlling, monopolizing and hand picking their personal buddies to grow as LPs. The only thing they are regulating is the tax you will pay and who makes the money. They're the new dealers on the streets now just in competition with the underground of which will be even bigger. As I am a medical marijuana patient it's made me quite disturbed and feel screwed by the Liberals! Current dispensary prices are 7 to 11 dollars per gram. LP prices are $14 and up per gram and you have to buy a certain amount (only mail order) so you can't see what you're buying before you receive your meds. I'm assuming these LPs will be supplying the LCBO...and their prices will be in and around 20 to 30 dollars and up per gram. Do you see that as legalization? It should be free enterprise like the apples in a grocery store, as the guy who brews his own beer and is able to sell it and the guy who makes his own wine. Alcohol and tobacco serve 3 purposes 1. Recreational use only (no medicinal purposes) 2. To tax the shit out of your addiction and 3. To make you sick and die...so you can feed the pharmaceutical system. After over 30 years testing marijuana has many many medicinal uses I could list a book full...which is why we are allowed to vape in public...Bc there is zero effect on your lungs going in and zero health hazard for second hand smoke. #staylifted
 

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You keep saying charge double do you have a link to proposed pot prices?
Using the other vices the government controls prices and taxes on as examples. Beer, wine, spirits, cigarettes. I doubt I'll be too far off the mark.
 

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Using the other vices the government controls prices and taxes on as examples. Beer, wine, spirits, cigarettes. I doubt I'll be too far off the mark.
I don't drink. Is there a viabe black market for alcohol where I can get it for half price?
 

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Just like with wine, scotch etc.
Perhaps not in the same sense that you meant it, but I can see the likelihood of a market developing for very high quality MJ... just like Cuvée Champagnes and the +18 year old Single Malts.

Since the profits could be huge -- as they are for Dom Perignon and Glenmorangie, for example -- and research and development can be carried out openly and legally in state-of-the-art facilities, there would be plenty of people willing to invest in it.

The rich will create and drive the market... just like they drive their Ferraris and Maybachs... and the rest of us will bitch about the prices and still buy it! :hail:

Perry
 

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So I just looked on my G+M app. There are two articles. One making the argument for the LCBO to distribute.

And one about the dangers of pot use for teens.

With both mentioning about proper distribution being important.

Also mentioned was how strong it is now and alluding to control of THC levels to make it safer.

Just like I predicted the tamed writers are already at it ready with reinforcing articles on the heels of the anouncements.
 

lovinoral

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What a half hour of research on you tube will give you all your medicinal answers. How about the dangers of alcohol and tobacco on us all not just teens...whose parents now a days are buying the booze for them to serve at their teen's house parties. Canada thinks they have to reinvent the wheel or something. Amsterdam has had cannabis available for 30 years...laws there are any cafe that serves cannabis cannot serve booze and vice versa. Now here the government wants to sell both in same location. Is that not detrimental? There is nothing worse than the mind altering state that alcohol induces! This "regulate from teens" is an excuse to monopolize and control the money and you nor I will ever see a penny of the cash cow this will be. And mark my words, if the LCBO is the only place of distribution then expect crime and the underworld to rise.
 

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What a half hour of research on you tube will give you all your medicinal answers. How about the dangers of alcohol and tobacco on us all not just teens...whose parents now a days are buying the booze for them to serve at their teen's house parties. Canada thinks they have to reinvent the wheel or something. Amsterdam has had cannabis available for 30 years...laws there are any cafe that serves cannabis cannot serve booze and vice versa. Now here the government wants to sell both in same location. Is that not detrimental? There is nothing worse than the mind altering state that alcohol induces! This "regulate from teens" is an excuse to monopolize and control the money and you nor I will ever see a penny of the cash cow this will be. And mark my words, if the LCBO is the only place of distribution then expect crime and the underworld to rise.
First of all, there is a big difference between a sit-down establishment selling booze and pot, and the LCBO. You walk into the LCBO, buy your stuff, and walk out to consume elsewhere (usually at home).

Secondly, cafes in Amsterdam CAN serve pot and booze... the majority of them do not though, maybe because they know it is a bad combination.
I have been to many cafes in Amsterdam... most will not sell booze if they are selling pot, but some of the shadier ones will.
 

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First of all, there is a big difference between a sit-down establishment selling booze and pot, and the LCBO. You walk into the LCBO, buy your stuff, and walk out to consume elsewhere (usually at home).

Secondly, cafes in Amsterdam CAN serve pot and booze... the majority of them do not though, maybe because they know it is a bad combination.
I have been to many cafes in Amsterdam... most will not sell booze if they are selling pot, but some of the shadier ones will.
What is the price of pot in amsterdam?
 

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It was the union who first came out demanding their staff at the LBCO be the only ones to sell pot, so basically get ready for the unions to demand huge raises for their members at contract time as they will cite the extra profits from pot sales that is going into government coffers. I don't smoke but I do occasionally drink and I take advantage of cheaper booze prices across the border and duty free. I never buy anything at the LCBO or the Beer Store.
 

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What is the price of pot in amsterdam?
It kinda varied.
You had your craft cafes where you bought the stuff in baggies and rolled it yourself. Lots of varieties, etc... I honestly can't remember how much the pot cost at these places

Then you had your tourist-focused cafes, like The Bulldog (and there was nothing wrong with them, don't get me wrong), but they focused on tourists and volume... pre-rolled stuff, nicely packaged, etc... very convenient.
One joint was probably the equivalent of $3 CAD or so. Like I said, nicely rolled, packaged, and ready to go.
 

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Yeah but how many people know a dealer? Let alone one with locations throughout the province? Sure some deliver but there is something to be said for convenience.

How about you ever call your dealer and they have run out? Or they are not available? Or they are flakey and you have to pretend to be their friend. Or that people go in and out of the biz so what do you do when your hook up retires?

Then there's the ethical side would you rather save money but give it to a potentially violent gang?

You know tax is inevitable. So what would you rather? No tax revenue?

The LCBO will be the biggest drug dealer now.
 
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