In the case of LCBO "workers",...they did NOT increase output to deserve anything more than inflation,...1.32%
2% is excessive,...and inflationary,...but who ever said that unions ever understood economics.
LCBO strike
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In the case of LCBO "workers",...they did NOT increase output to deserve anything more than inflation,...1.32%
2% is excessive,...and inflationary,...but who ever said that unions ever understood economics.
Getting more money has little to do with someone 'deserving' it. It is about what you can get away with, how well you can sell your value to the firm, how well you can negotiate and if you know how to leverage i.e. do you have another job waiting.
I agree with what you are saying,...but none of it is relative to a unionised civil servant.
Why isn't it relative to unionized workers? Workers in the private and public sectors can review their employment contract at any time and negotiate better wages. The big difference is that public sector workers pay the union to negotiate for them. Based on the money they spend on advertising, they better produce results.
I said a unionized civil servant,...which is what this thread is about.
The only thing relative is union black mail,...a unionized civil servant does NOT negotiate based on marketable skills, or a threat to leave.
I'm lucky. Work for a good place. Annual increase is 2-3%. Annual bonus, and a profit sharing bonus, and RRSP contribution etc....
Then again, we're doing great. If the company hits the toilet, annual increases and bonuses will be slashed.
How they negotiate is totally up to them. We might not like their tactics by threatening to strike, but it works and has worked for decades. They would not use that tactic if it did not work.
Always be looking over your shoulder anyway because a good company can change quickly especially when an American company buys your company out. Happened to me twice and both times the companies turned to shit.
For sure. Good point. I've never experienced a corporate buy out. I've had friends who've gone through it. Some people love it and hit the jackpot as they get cut and wanted out anyway. Other people stick around and the new culture and bigwigs slowly change everything. I don't remember one person saying things improved after two companies got brought together. Only negativity.... except for the ones who got a big package to leave.
I always have my resume brushed up too. You never know when a good job posting will pop up or a recruiter giving you a call.
I find it's best to register yourself with various recruitment agencies regardless if you're looking for work or not. They'll have you on file and can alert you when there's a new role. Shoot them an email every once in a while to keep them up to date as you upgrade skills, promotions, etc. Keep your LinkedIn up to date and keep in touch with old colleagues that can give a good reference.
It's a giant hassle and very stressful to do all these things: registering with agencies, trying to contact people for references, etc when you're out of a job.
Your colleagues are lucky to have gotten packages. Some firms try to either not pay severance at all or pay too little. I'm surprised that some people accept that as normal and don't lawyer up.
There's the door,...
As for unions,...its not a tactic,...its a threat than individuals don't have.
My point is,...an individual unionised civil servant does NOT negotiate as an individual non unionised employee must do,...the unions black mail their employers.
An individual employee can not threaten to have every other employee in the business walk out with him/her,...plus have the government not allow that employer to hire new workers.
They are on their own.
I'm going to let you have the last word dude,...no sense in continuing this back and forth,...even though we have kept our debate above the usual losers here, who have to insult when disagreeing.
As for unions,...its not a tactic,...its a threat than individuals don't have.
My point is,...an individual unionised civil servant does NOT negotiate as an individual non unionised employee must do,...the unions black mail their employers.
An individual employee can not threaten to have every other employee in the business walk out with him/her,...plus have the government not allow that employer to hire new workers.
They are on their own.
Wasn't trying to get the last word in man. I was actually agreeing with you the whole time.
Call it negotiations, threats, tactics, black mail, whatever. The unions knows what they're doing works and employers cave to get people back to work. And you're right that individuals not in a union cannot do much other than quit or lawyer up.
Didn't mean to insinuate you were,...just thought it was time to end it.
We seem to be on the same wave length anyway.
,..."Relative is defined as something connected, relevant or dependent on something else"
And besides,...I give a shit,...but glad you enjoyed yourself.
This is what gives unions bad names. Time to sell off LCBO to private companies, watch them automate everything, cut staff by 80% (lay off people). Cheaper booze us all. In fact I predict this will all be coming soon.
