Lawsuit

While I am an animal lover (not THAT way you pervs) and would be devestated by the loss of my pet, I can see some sort of settlement being offerred but when you get a lawyer involved, I can see this company folding putting hundreds if not thousands of people out of work.

Should they be penalized? Sure, you bet.

Should they be driven under? Never.

If anything I think they should pay a large fine (100K +/-) and that money donated to local humane societies.
 
Agree but

tboy said:
While I am an animal lover (not THAT way you pervs) and would be devestated by the loss of my pet, I can see some sort of settlement being offerred but when you get a lawyer involved, I can see this company folding putting hundreds if not thousands of people out of work.

Should they be penalized? Sure, you bet.

Should they be driven under? Never.

If anything I think they should pay a large fine (100K +/-) and that money donated to local humane societies.

Obviously they did not intentionally put poison in their product. The recall is costing them millions in destroyed product. Millions more in back charges from their customers. Return shipping charges and they can't produce this product till they definitely isolate the precises ingredient that caused the mess.

On top of that, they lost a customer base for that particular product for sure and that, now lack of trust, is going to spill over into their other products.

I've not seen their financial statements but I'd be surprised if this firm can survive.

As for lawsuits. Hope they had insurance.
 
Trapdoor said:
Obviously they did not intentionally put poison in their product. The recall is costing them millions in destroyed product. Millions more in back charges from their customers. Return shipping charges and they can't produce this product till they definitely isolate the precises ingredient that caused the mess.

On top of that, they lost a customer base for that particular product for sure and that, now lack of trust, is going to spill over into their other products.

I've not seen their financial statements but I'd be surprised if this firm can survive.

As for lawsuits. Hope they had insurance.
And from what I heard Friday the poison may well have come in on wheat shipped from China.
 
Gonna need a bigger bandwagon.
 
It was annouced today that the lawsuit is for $100 million.

Like I said, I'm a animal lover and feel badly for all the owners whose family friends died because of this but 100 million? Jesus....another fine example of lawyering being totally different than common sense.

I mean compare this to medical malpractise: I've heard of wrongful death suits being settled for $500 K and that's when a person dies.......

If I was the judge for this case the first thing I'd do upon reading the amount would be to slap the lawyer with a $50 K stupidity penalty.

LOL found a 2003 financial statement: they only made $14 million in gross profit and $82 million in sales. This lawsuit is ludicrous.
 
Question...

tboy said:
It was annouced today that the lawsuit is for $100 million.

Like I said, I'm a animal lover and feel badly for all the owners whose family friends died because of this but 100 million? Jesus....another fine example of lawyering being totally different than common sense.

I mean compare this to medical malpractise: I've heard of wrongful death suits being settled for $500 K and that's when a person dies.......

If I was the judge for this case the first thing I'd do upon reading the amount would be to slap the lawyer with a $50 K stupidity penalty.

LOL found a 2003 financial statement: they only made $14 million in gross profit and $82 million in sales. This lawsuit is ludicrous.
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What's the total equity and what is the debt to worth ratio. Exclude goodwill if any. That'll give you a perfect picture if they can survive if they don't carry insurance.
 
Thanks TBoy...

tboy said:
Here's the link to the statement I found. There may be more recent ones but I don't care enough to search that hard :)

http://www.menufoods.com/financials/docs/Q1_2003.pdf
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As a quick qualifier I did not read the notes which do form part of the statement. Also, this is a quarterly statement which is from 2003 so the current picture is not really known. Finally any contribution from one more qualified that I would always be appreciated.

OK. The quick and dirty.

Shows a net worth of 212 million, however, in the statement there is an amount of 165 million stated as Goodwill (this is an intangible and is always deducted from the worth because it basically is the amount that they feel someone would be willing to pay for name and reputation). Therefore realistic Net Worth is 47 million. Looks fairly good but they have about 42 million in inventory.

It comes down to what are the assets really worth after this situation. In a fire sale? Who knows but not a whole lot.

Hope this helps.