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The purpose of me watching the film isn't to change my position. It's so that I am fully informed what is being said in the movie.
Of course you have no interest in changing your mind.

The Black Hebrew Israelites started because a guy had a vision that told him the 'truth' and the video blames Jews for 'stealing' their identity and making them slaves.
 
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A while back, a fringe player on the Heat was caught using anti-Jewish slurs while gaming on twitch. He was quickly traded and waived by the other team. At the time, one of the ESPN guys talked about how the rules for the stars are different than role players. Clearly seems to be the case.
 

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Of course you have no interest in changing your mind.

The Black Hebrew Israelites started because a guy had a vision that told him the 'truth' and the video blames Jews for 'stealing' their identity and making them slaves.
What makes his story less believable than any other religious story? 🤣

What you should really ask is if this video is anti-Semitic, why is it still on Amazon.
 

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What makes his story less believable than any other religious story? 🤣
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Nothing. It's just as dumb an idea as the Christian Identity movement who use their warped view of religion as an excuse to promote hatred.

And in case you weren't aware, the US has this thing called free speech. They can sell a racist video and the rest of us are free to condemn it.


BTW. What's your review on it? Do you think that Jews have been manipulating black people to hide who the "real" Jews are and the slave trade was a Jewish enterprise like the movie claims?
 

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Wow. A Jew once owned slaves. That must mean that Jews controlled the slave trade to oppress black people o_O

There were also a few black slave owners in the US and many black, African leaders who sold slaves. Does that support the Ye-like claims that black people were to blame for slavery?
 

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Wow. A Jew once owned slaves. That must mean that Jews controlled the slave trade to oppress black people o_O

There were also a few black slave owners in the US and many black, African leaders who sold slaves. Does that support the Ye-like claims that black people were to blame for slavery?
Wasn't Larry David's zaide the head of the Jew cabal that controlled the slave trade.
 

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Nothing. It's just as dumb an idea as the Christian Identity movement who use their warped view of religion as an excuse to promote hatred.

And in case you weren't aware, the US has this thing called free speech. They can sell a racist video and the rest of us are free to condemn it.


BTW. What's your review on it? Do you think that Jews have been manipulating black people to hide who the "real" Jews are and the slave trade was a Jewish enterprise like the movie claims?
Amazon and Vimeo are a private company, so free speech does not apply because they have the power to remove things off their platform to their discretion. So if this is 3hrs of hate speech, they would remove it, no?

Haven't watched it yet. I won't have time until the weekend. I'll wait to hear this in it's full context.

Wow. A Jew once owned slaves. That must mean that Jews controlled the slave trade to oppress black people o_O

There were also a few black slave owners in the US and many black, African leaders who sold slaves. Does that support the Ye-like claims that black people were to blame for slavery?
That's not Ye's comment. That is your own comment.

It should be investigated. Just like how Jews investigate till this day people and organizations that were involved with the nazi party.
 

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Amazon and Vimeo are a private company, so free speech does not apply because they have the power to remove things off their platform to their discretion. So if this is 3hrs of hate speech, they would remove it, no?
If they wanted to. I'm not Bezos.


That's not Ye's comment. That is your own comment.
Ye said slavery was a choice. Blaming blacks for slavery is therefore Ye-like.

And it doesn't change my point. Does a few black slave owners and African blacks selling slaves make the slave trade a "Black" enterprise?

It should be investigated. Just like how Jews investigate till this day people and organizations that were involved with the nazi party.
I love it when people put their feelings out in the open. So much easier than dealing with racist who try to pretend they're not.



p.s. You said you were going to run out and watch it to get 'informed' about it. What's stopped you?
p.p.s. The "full context" is these are a bunch of religiously motivated wackos who feel the need to blame Jews for everything.
 
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Amazon and Vimeo are a private company, so free speech does not apply because they have the power to remove things off their platform to their discretion. So if this is 3hrs of hate speech, they would remove it, no?

Haven't watched it yet. I won't have time until the weekend. I'll wait to hear this in it's full context.
I was actually wondering about this too. Amazon has a specific policy against distributing hate speech. Here is a quote from Amazon.com regarding this policy:

Offensive Content
We don’t sell certain content including content that we determine is hate speech, promotes the abuse or sexual exploitation of children, contains pornography, glorifies rape or pedophilia, advocates terrorism, or other material we deem inappropriate or offensive.


Having this movie on their site seems a clear violation of Amazon’s own policy?

Your answer to this seems to be that the fact that Amazon is selling this film is proof that it is not hate speech; I would see it as evidence that Amazon is not enforcing its own policies. In any case, I think it’s a fair question to ask Amazon.
 

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Meanwhile…the Nets released a joint statement with Kyrie stating that they reject anti-semitism and that each are donating $500 K to the Anti-Defamation League:



Then, Kyrie speaks to the press and refuses to apologize for his behaviour:



This situation is going completely to shit. Kyrie is not gonna back down and the league is gonna have to suspend him.
 

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Update:


Nets suspend Kyrie Irving for 'failure to disavow antisemitism'
Associated PressNovember 3, 2022, 8:01 PM

NEW YORK (AP) — The Brooklyn Nets suspended Kyrie Irving for at least five games without pay Thursday, dismayed by his repeated failure to “unequivocally say he has no antisemitic beliefs.”

Hours after Irving refused to issue the apology that NBA Commissioner Adam Silver sought for posting a link to an antisemitic work on his Twitter feed, the Nets said that Irving is “currently unfit to be associated with the Brooklyn Nets.”

“We were dismayed today, when given an opportunity in a media session, that Kyrie refused to unequivocally say he has no antisemitic beliefs, nor acknowledge specific hateful material in the film. This was not the first time he had the opportunity — but failed — to clarify,” the Nets said in a statement.

“Such failure to disavow antisemitism when given a clear opportunity to do so is deeply disturbing, is against the values of our organization, and constitutes conduct detrimental to the team. Accordingly, we are of the view that he is currently unfit to be associated with the Brooklyn Nets.”

The Nets said they made multiple attempts in recent days to help Irving understand the harm and danger of his words and actions, but it was clear during Irving's interview after practice earlier Thursday that little had changed.

Irving again refused to apologize, saying only that he meant no harm. He said some things in “Hebrews to Negroes: Wake Up Black America” were untrue, but he didn’t say he shouldn’t have posted a link to it.

“I’m not the one who made the documentary,” Irving said.

He was later asked if he had antisemitic beliefs, and he didn't say no.

“I cannot be antisemitic if I know where I come from,” Irving said.

Irving and the Nets had announced Wednesday, in conjunction with the Anti-Defamation League, that each would be donating $500,000 to anti-hate causes. But Silver felt Irving needed to go further.

“While we appreciate the fact that he agreed to work with the Brooklyn Nets and the Anti-Defamation League to combat antisemitism and other forms of discrimination, I am disappointed that he has not offered an unqualified apology and more specifically denounced the vile and harmful content contained in the film he chose to publicize,” the commissioner said.

It's the second straight season that the Nets have sent Irving away from the team. Last year it was when he refused to be vaccinated against COVID-19, making him ineligible to play home games. They eventually brought him back to play road games in December.







Kyrie’s Quote: “I cannot be antisemitic if I know where I come from.” In other words, Kyrie is claiming that he is Jewish. He is literally telling us that he is 100% down with the conspiracy theory that Black Africans have had their birthright stolen from them by the Jews.
 

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If they wanted to. I'm not Bezos.
Yeah I guess they don't. Must be ok with them.

Ye said slavery was a choice. Blaming blacks for slavery is therefore Ye-like.
The context matters. His context is not the same as yours. He's not talking about being a slave owner.

And it doesn't change my point. Does a few black slave owners and African blacks selling slaves make the slave trade a "Black" enterprise?
No because that would mean it wasn't accept by the group as a whole.

I love it when people put their feelings out in the open. So much easier than dealing with racist who try to pretend they're not.
That's not a feeling. It's a fact.

p.s. You said you were going to run out and watch it to get 'informed' about it. What's stopped you?
p.p.s. The "full context" is these are a bunch of religiously motivated wackos who feel the need to blame Jews for everything.
Already addressed this. It's a 3.5hr movie, I won't have time until the weekend to watch this. Don't worry, I got my link at Vimeo ready.✊

But I guess you've already watched it since you seem to know everything about it. I'd hate to think you'd form an opinion without actually seeing the film.
 

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Yeah I guess they don't. Must be ok with them.
Considering the have sold nazi paraphernalia and books by key nazi figues...


The context matters. His context is not the same as yours. He's not talking about being a slave owner.
What context justifies pushing ridiculous racist conspiracy theories?

Quotes from the movie:
  • “Black people are now finding out they are the real lost children of Israel. In turn, they are realizing that the Sephardic, Ashkenazi, and Mizrahi Jews in Israel are just religious converts with no biblical blood connection to the ancient Twelve Tribes of Israel.”
  • “If the Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews falsely claim they are from the Tribe of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi, why did they decide to steal the identity of the real Black Israelites that they sold into slavery?”
  • “The children of Israel got their brown skin complexion, something we don’t see with the people who came to Israel in 1948 and call themselves Jews.
  • “The seed of Edom, the seed of Cain, the Synagogue of Satan, and Lucifer himself are the major confederate that has been against us for a very long time.”
  • “In school we are never taught about…the Jewish slave ships that brought our West African negro Bantus ancestors to slave ports owned by the Jewish Newport world center of slave commerce off the east coast of North America.”
  • “The Jews have established five major falsehoods which work to conceal their nature and protect their status and power, to wit: 1) The Jews are ‘Israelites’, and thus God’s Chosen People; 2) Jesus Christ was a Jew; 3) That 6 million Jews were killed in a holocaust during WWII; 4) That all races are equal, or that all are brothers; and, 5) That Jews are just another religious group.” [Quotation from a 1978 antisemitic text published by Walter White Jr. titled “The Hidden Tyranny”]
  • “Black people are now finding out they are the real lost children of Israel. In turn, they are realizing that the Sephardic, Ashkenazi, and Mizrahi Jews in Israel are just religious converts with no biblical blood connection to the ancient Twelve Tribes of Israel.”
  • “If the Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews falsely claim they are from the Tribe of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi, why did they decide to steal the identity of the real Black Israelites that they sold into slavery?”
  • “The children of Israel got their brown skin complexion, something we don’t see with the people who came to Israel in 1948 and call themselves Jews.”
  • “[The Americans] plan on moving these false white Jews into a state of Israel. Because the white Jews know that the Negroes are the real children of Israel and to keep America’s secret, the Jews will blackmail America. They will extort America, their plan for world domination won’t work if the Negroes know who they are.” [Fabricated “quotation” falsely attributed to Adolf Hitler]

Pure racist crap.

No because that would mean it wasn't accept by the group as a whole.
So now you're pushing bullshit that slavery was accepted by Jews as a group. No wonder you're into the movie.


That's not a feeling. It's a fact.
Yes, your agreement with antisemitic conspiracy theories is a fact.




But I guess you've already watched it since you seem to know everything about it. I'd hate to think you'd form an opinion without actually seeing the film.
I've read about it from numerous sites. There is no doubting the overt antisemitism and conspiracy theories in it.

 
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Considering the have sold nazi paraphernalia and books by key nazi figues...



What context justifies pushing ridiculous racist conspiracy theories?

Quotes from the movie:
  • “Black people are now finding out they are the real lost children of Israel. In turn, they are realizing that the Sephardic, Ashkenazi, and Mizrahi Jews in Israel are just religious converts with no biblical blood connection to the ancient Twelve Tribes of Israel.”
  • “If the Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews falsely claim they are from the Tribe of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi, why did they decide to steal the identity of the real Black Israelites that they sold into slavery?”
  • “The children of Israel got their brown skin complexion, something we don’t see with the people who came to Israel in 1948 and call themselves Jews.
  • “The seed of Edom, the seed of Cain, the Synagogue of Satan, and Lucifer himself are the major confederate that has been against us for a very long time.”
  • “In school we are never taught about…the Jewish slave ships that brought our West African negro Bantus ancestors to slave ports owned by the Jewish Newport world center of slave commerce off the east coast of North America.”
  • “The Jews have established five major falsehoods which work to conceal their nature and protect their status and power, to wit: 1) The Jews are ‘Israelites’, and thus God’s Chosen People; 2) Jesus Christ was a Jew; 3) That 6 million Jews were killed in a holocaust during WWII; 4) That all races are equal, or that all are brothers; and, 5) That Jews are just another religious group.” [Quotation from a 1978 antisemitic text published by Walter White Jr. titled “The Hidden Tyranny”]
  • “Black people are now finding out they are the real lost children of Israel. In turn, they are realizing that the Sephardic, Ashkenazi, and Mizrahi Jews in Israel are just religious converts with no biblical blood connection to the ancient Twelve Tribes of Israel.”
  • “If the Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews falsely claim they are from the Tribe of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi, why did they decide to steal the identity of the real Black Israelites that they sold into slavery?”
  • “The children of Israel got their brown skin complexion, something we don’t see with the people who came to Israel in 1948 and call themselves Jews.”
  • “[The Americans] plan on moving these false white Jews into a state of Israel. Because the white Jews know that the Negroes are the real children of Israel and to keep America’s secret, the Jews will blackmail America. They will extort America, their plan for world domination won’t work if the Negroes know who they are.” [Fabricated “quotation” falsely attributed to Adolf Hitler]

Pure racist crap.


So now you're pushing bullshit that slavery was accepted by Jews as a group. No wonder you're into the movie.



Yes, your agreement with antisemitic conspiracy theories is a fact.





I've read about it from numerous sites. There is no doubting the overt antisemitism and conspiracy theories in it.

First off, condense your posts. I'm not going to fish through your babble.

Second, this goes back to everything I said in the beginning. Who determines what is anti-semitic and how?

Third, how do you know who's really a descendant from Israel? How can you say it's all crap until you watch the film?

If you've made your decision and never watched the movie, I will have to call you bias. You're not a fair individual.
 
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