Kosovo now has Independence!
- Thread starter Mr. Lucky
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This is going to cause trouble. For NATO to have deliberately engendered the unilateral separation of a province of a sovereign state is a very dangerous and foolish precedent. Further the deliberate disregard for Serbian and Russian feelings on this issue is something I fear we shall rue.Mr. Lucky said:
Really! Swiming in oceans of petrodollars and feeling increasingly alienated from the West. I quess you're looking forward to Cold War IIMr. Lucky said:
issues, issues,
Canada has a long history of dealing with a province that has considered separation. The Canadian approach has been quixotic, opposing independence for Quebec, exactly as Serbia opposes independence for Kosovo.
Quebeckers, like Kosovars, have maintained, it's entirely up to them - what anyone else says is irrelevant.
But beyond this, there are some tremendous differences. Politicians promoted ethnic hatred, and the former leader of Yugoslavia, the war criminal Milosovic dramatically reduced the status of the region of Kosovo around 1990.
There were then two separate votes in Kosovo for independence and the independence movement won handily - the last one, in 1992, by around 98% in favour.
After the wars with Croatia and Bosnia, ethnic tensions again were on the rise as Milosovic continued to play the ethnic tensions card.
Hostile actions from both sides triggered all out war, and NATO intervened.
That was less than 10 years ago. Is it surprising that the independence movement remains incredibly strong?
Still, international pressure on Kosovo saw the Kosovars at the table negotiating with the Serbs to define their status now in the new Serb Republic.
Those talks have broken down. And Kosovo has decided, unsurprisingly, to go it alone. This will undoubtedly fuel "nationalist" furvor in Serbia. And this in turn has given Russia the opportunity to pander to their Serbian friends.
Canada has a long history of dealing with a province that has considered separation. The Canadian approach has been quixotic, opposing independence for Quebec, exactly as Serbia opposes independence for Kosovo.
Quebeckers, like Kosovars, have maintained, it's entirely up to them - what anyone else says is irrelevant.
But beyond this, there are some tremendous differences. Politicians promoted ethnic hatred, and the former leader of Yugoslavia, the war criminal Milosovic dramatically reduced the status of the region of Kosovo around 1990.
There were then two separate votes in Kosovo for independence and the independence movement won handily - the last one, in 1992, by around 98% in favour.
After the wars with Croatia and Bosnia, ethnic tensions again were on the rise as Milosovic continued to play the ethnic tensions card.
Hostile actions from both sides triggered all out war, and NATO intervened.
That was less than 10 years ago. Is it surprising that the independence movement remains incredibly strong?
Still, international pressure on Kosovo saw the Kosovars at the table negotiating with the Serbs to define their status now in the new Serb Republic.
Those talks have broken down. And Kosovo has decided, unsurprisingly, to go it alone. This will undoubtedly fuel "nationalist" furvor in Serbia. And this in turn has given Russia the opportunity to pander to their Serbian friends.
Except Quebec has never asked for independence; only a fraction of the people there have wanted their own country.TQM said:
It's About Time
Kosovo has the support of George W.Bush. He received a hero's welcome back in August and he will be remember for eternity. Europe did nothing to help resolve this ongoing conflict but America is one great country. Second to this if you want to know where the U.S. has the biggest army base outside of America it is in Kosovo. Great things will result from seperating from this slavic country.
Kosovo has the support of George W.Bush. He received a hero's welcome back in August and he will be remember for eternity. Europe did nothing to help resolve this ongoing conflict but America is one great country. Second to this if you want to know where the U.S. has the biggest army base outside of America it is in Kosovo. Great things will result from seperating from this slavic country.
I'm not ignorant. I have the knowledge re: Kosovo, Macedonia, 90's, Serbia, and former Yugoslavia. I am not an idiot. I just care about MY country. I care about Canada. That's it. Period. What happens in an armpit a**hole region like Kosovo bothers me not. I especially despise all the morons in Ottawa, Toronto, and anywhere else in this country who fly Kosovo (or any other country - Lebanon from last year comes to mind) flags or dance around Parliament protesting whatever. I mean if you are soooooooo thrilled about Kosovo independance THEN GO F**KING LIVE THERE!!!!!!!! You are in Canada you ungrateful pieces of crap. Fly the Canadian flag!!! Dance around the Canadian flag. The only thing I'd use another country's flag for is maybe wiping my butt after a big s**t.Hangman said:
Are you inbred or something? There are a lot of people on this forum that take a dim view of multiculturalism and the idea of a global community, but you're definitely alone in your extreme position.dj1470 said:
It's not clear whether Canada will recognize Kosovo independence. Canada may wait for UN recognition so as not to set a precedent that unilateral separation without international support has legs. The C's have said they are "considering" what to do. They may recognize it like their pals in the US, or they may not.
(Think about Quebec, the federal govt. certainly is.)
(Think about Quebec, the federal govt. certainly is.)
The same things it's been contributing for the past 10 years.dj1470 said:
There will be an extra border and customs office for the sex slaves & heroine shipments to clear - but since many of the customs officers figure to be related to the traffickers, there's not likely to be any glitch the flow of either comodity.
