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OnTheWayOut
WTF? Did you just call me old? Oh yeah, I AM old ..... sometimes forget that!
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Kissing - how safe is it?
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OnTheWayOut
Thank you. While i have come to understand what people mean when they use these terms, I agree that LFK is highly irrational and probably impossible. Maybe LFK could be a tongue tickling tease? That could only apply if the tongues stay out of each other's mouth. Fuck, this is getting too painful to think about.
I wasn't saying it protects against all STDs, just that it helps protect against the main one spread through kissing. So for the providers that offer kissing, and bbbj, it is a good idea to be using Listerine antiseptic after sessions.It doesn't kill all std that could be transmitted from saliva so in my humble opinion , Listerine is not a protection against std...
But for the ones that are going for that service it is a great link since it does lower the risk for some contamination.
Personally we do provide Listerine to all of our clients at our location , but is is more a matter of good breath for us. It is always pleasant for providers and customers when everyone smells good
Here's a link of many diseases that could be transmitted by kissing : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ed7ES5LBQk
Here's an other one : https://www.std-gov.org/blog/can-get-std-kissing/#can-you-get-an-std-from-kissing
Also it is important to remember here that the statistics are not based on providers so as providers we have to take in consideration that we are having way more partners then a regular person so the risks are way up. For the clients too because when you are "sleeping" with someone it is like you slept with all her previous partners in terms of contamination so it is the same for all fluids exchange ( including kissing).. I am sorry I know it is raw to read , but as I was saying in my previous comment , it is a very sensitive topic... I am trying to be gentle and to keep to the facts here so I hope nobody will hate me for that ...
As many people said in this thread , the best is to get tested often and to be confortable with your decision once you get all the informations in your hands..
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OnTheWayOut
If it means I'll get more bbbj, I'll volunteer to a Listerene bath for my pecker! Just make sure I don't shave my nuts that day.
Hmmmm, I often take a small gift for the SP, perhaps I should get a case of Listerene and give a gift that really is useful! Thx for that info.
Ottawa is getting some good discussions goings. That is for sure.
I am happy to know I am not a total idiot regarding the LFK. Hahahha
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OnTheWayOut
That's interesting. I guess what I experienced recently falls into the LFK category then. Doesn't seem much safer than DFK really. I was never much into tongue swapping anyway.
Off topic for this thread and Ottawa, but it is a lounge type topic that might entertain some,
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...der-What-are-my-options&p=6105982#post6105982
You Ottawa folks need to hit the lounge more I think. There are some good opinions in this section, the lounge could do well from hearing some of them.
Ok, back to the topic now......
I am still confused on the LFK and DFK. I have never thought of DFK as porn style. I don't know, for me kissing is important. I don't want a session without it. It should be fun, playful, not too dry, not too wet, there should be tongues, but not jamming style dueling in the mouth.
After careful reflection, I guess that kissing really does have a Goldilocks type spot. That is where I sit. So I am happily renaming the acronym for myself. The GFK - Goldilocks French Kissing. That is the spot I want to be at. LOL
OMG - you changed your signature!!!!! I never thought I would see the day......
She has a good bounce. LOL
Sorry but the lounge is full or racist windbags that never get called out for said racism. I'd rather the Ottawa section where it's just the occasional argument on where to post content.
You missed my point. If the Ottawa crew can have open discussions with little issue, then aren't they the ones we want in the lounge? Instead of the racist windbags as you call them.
I disagree that racists don't get called out. They do and quite often.
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jazzbox
I can see it now.. some guy is going to read this and put it on his junk after a tete a tete and come screaming out of his bathroom much to the surprise of his partner...
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jazzbox
I think the discussion about getting herpes may be a bit overwrought. Many if not most sexually active people have HSV1 or will get it.
The seroprevalences of herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV-1) and HSV-2 in Ontario is already very high in the civilian population already. The linked 2003 paper shows seroprevalences of HSV-1 and HSV-2 were 51.1% (95% confidence interval [CI], 50.1 to 52.1) and 9.1% (95% CI, 8.6 to 9.7), respectively. The seroprevalence of HSV-1 antibodies increased from 26.9 to 54.7% in men between 15 to 16 and 40 to 44 years of age, from 32.0 to 88.7% in women not under prenatal care, and from 55.2 to 69.2% in women under prenatal care.
The seroprevalence of HSV-2 increased from 3.8 to 21.3% in men between 15 to 16 and 40 to 44 years of age, from 0 to 18.9% in women not under prenatal care, and from 3.4 to 23.1% in women under prenatal care.
Both types of HSV antibodies appeared to be acquired earlier among women under prenatal care than among men and women not under prenatal care. Antibodies were more prevalent among people in northern Ontario (72.9% of subjects [range, 68.4 to 77.4%] for HSV-1 and 13.7% of subjects [95% CI, 10.2 to 17.2%] for HSV-2) than elsewhere.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC149555/
On French kissing.. the risks are very, very low.
According to Hunter Handsfield (see credentials: http://www.washington.edu/news/2010/03/03/dr-hunter-handsfield-wins-award-for-std-prevention/
"The STD risk from kissing, french or otherwise, is virtually zero. There are only two known possibilities, syphilis and herpes due to HSV-1. Oral HSV-1 acquired by kissing isn't considered an STD, but if your partner has oral herpes, especially with a current active outbreak, you might be at risk. As for syphilis, it is pretty much absent in heterosexual populations in western Europe; and rarely if ever transmitted by kissing -- a theoretical possibility but nothing to worry about. "
See: https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/STD-from-french-kissing/show/2035767
The seroprevalences of herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV-1) and HSV-2 in Ontario is already very high in the civilian population already. The linked 2003 paper shows seroprevalences of HSV-1 and HSV-2 were 51.1% (95% confidence interval [CI], 50.1 to 52.1) and 9.1% (95% CI, 8.6 to 9.7), respectively. The seroprevalence of HSV-1 antibodies increased from 26.9 to 54.7% in men between 15 to 16 and 40 to 44 years of age, from 32.0 to 88.7% in women not under prenatal care, and from 55.2 to 69.2% in women under prenatal care.
The seroprevalence of HSV-2 increased from 3.8 to 21.3% in men between 15 to 16 and 40 to 44 years of age, from 0 to 18.9% in women not under prenatal care, and from 3.4 to 23.1% in women under prenatal care.
Both types of HSV antibodies appeared to be acquired earlier among women under prenatal care than among men and women not under prenatal care. Antibodies were more prevalent among people in northern Ontario (72.9% of subjects [range, 68.4 to 77.4%] for HSV-1 and 13.7% of subjects [95% CI, 10.2 to 17.2%] for HSV-2) than elsewhere.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC149555/
On French kissing.. the risks are very, very low.
According to Hunter Handsfield (see credentials: http://www.washington.edu/news/2010/03/03/dr-hunter-handsfield-wins-award-for-std-prevention/
"The STD risk from kissing, french or otherwise, is virtually zero. There are only two known possibilities, syphilis and herpes due to HSV-1. Oral HSV-1 acquired by kissing isn't considered an STD, but if your partner has oral herpes, especially with a current active outbreak, you might be at risk. As for syphilis, it is pretty much absent in heterosexual populations in western Europe; and rarely if ever transmitted by kissing -- a theoretical possibility but nothing to worry about. "
See: https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/STD-from-french-kissing/show/2035767
