killers on parole do not kill
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Hoser - these are your words - not mine :hoser1970 said:Peter, like you, I used to be in favour of capital punishment. That was until I realized how many innoncent people had been convicted of serious crimes.
The whole premise of the criminal justice system (ok, in the US, but really not that different here) is that it is better for 100 guilty people to go free than it is for 1 innocent person to be convicted. Based on your argument above, you would prefer that 100 innocent people be executed, rather than 1 guilty person be incarcerated in prison (that's right, not go free, but be sent to prison). And you can honestly say you are ok with this?
Of course you would not feel the same way if this were your friend, or your parent/sibling/child or yourself and you believed that they/you were innocent. To claim otherwise, unless you have already been in put in that position (which you couldn't have been put in in Canada) is absolutely ridiculous.
Let me hear you speak of the "greater good" as they are about to give you a lethal injection, or turn on the electric chair. I daresay your last words would be closer to "I DIDN'T DO IT! I'M INNOCENT! YOU ARE MAKING A MISTAKE!"
" Based on your argument above, you would prefer that 100 innocent people be executed, rather than 1 guilty person be incarcerated in prison "
peter4peter4 said:
That's just the thing: you cannot eliminate entirely the chances of false conviction, and therefore the execution of the innocent. Don't you think that if it were possible it would already have been done? Minimizing the chance of false conviction in this situation simply isn't good enough.
Like hoser1970, I don't buy that killing the innocent is an acceptable cost. Isn't the protection of the innocent a main reason for the justice system in the first place?
..........it is too difficult for me to accept that people like Bernardo, Homolka and Clifford Olson ( to name but a few ) - are allowed to breathe the same air as everyone else after what everyone knows that they did. I think our justice system could be reworked so as to achieve some form of happy medium.RandyAndy2 said:
I don't think any of us are defending these individuals. I say stick them in the general (prison) population. They would last maybe 10 minutes before one of the seriously bad people would teach them a new game called either a) survival or b) you my bitch now!peter4 said:
Seriously, I think the best punishment for someone like Bernardo is to have some 350 pound gorilla decide that Paul is his bitch, like maybe for the next 30 or 40 years!
Contrary to popular imagination, most murders are not "first degree" murders, but rather "second degree" murders, the vast majority being crimes passionnel.
