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Vancouver man charged in fatal Christmas party shooting

Dec 13, 2008 07:31 PM
Jeremy Hainsworth
THE CANADIAN PRESS

VANCOUVER–A 61-year-old Vancouver man was charged Saturday in connection with the fatal shooting of his former boss at an office Christmas party, which forced other employees to flee from the building.

Eric Allen Kirkpatrick faces one count of first-degree murder, Vancouver police said.

It was unclear when the suspect would appear in court to answer to the charge.

Benjamin David Banky, 40, of Vancouver was gunned down Friday when a man showed up at the Christmas party.

"He had a firearm with him," Vancouver Police spokesperson Tim Fanning said.

"He shot one man fatally right away."

The other people at the office party were able to escape without injury, Fanning said.

"The shock was tremendous but all the other people in the business – and a dozen other people who were there for a Christmas party – managed to get out safely," Fanning said.

The shocked party-goers were put on buses and taken to police headquarters where witness statements were taken, he said.

He said counsellors have been made available to them.

"I can't emphasize enough how traumatic this would have been for the people in there to see one of their co-workers gunned down, so we're going to do all we can to help these people though a very, very difficult time," Fanning said.

Police were called immediately and surrounded the building, Fanning said.

"We determined that there was nobody else in the building, just our victim who was deceased and the suspect," Fanning said.

What followed was a tense two hours while police negotiated a man's exit from the building.

It's not known what kind of firearm was involved.

The business where the shooting occurred is listed as TallGrass Distribution Ltd., a natural health product supplier.

Kirkpatrick was let go by his employer Thursday, Fanning said, but he did not know how long the suspect had worked at the business.

The company issued a statement Saturday evening saying it was ``deeply saddened by the tragic death of our president and CEO, Ben Banky."

It described Banky as "a compassionate and dedicated leader who will be sadly missed."

The statement said Banky co-founded the company 12 years ago.

It said the company would have no further comment while the police investigation continues.

Luke Pigeon, who lives in an apartment building next door, said he didn't hear a gunshot but was drawn to his window by a commotion outside.

"It wasn't typical, crazy noise that sometimes happens. You got the feeling there was something definitely, definitely wrong," Pigeon told The Canadian Press.

He looked out the window and saw a woman fleeing the building next door.

"All I saw was a...lady running down the block screaming," Pigeon said.

He said she ran into a nearby auto repair shop where she apparently called for help, and in what seemed like mere minutes, police were on the scene.

"All of a sudden, in my front yard there were five totally decked out, geared up riot squad officers with guns out of the holster, aiming at the second floor of the building right beside us, Pigeon said.

"I tried to open up my door and they said close your door, lock your door."

He spent the next two hours in his apartment, as police negotiated with a man and finally persuaded him to surrender.

"They cuffed him on the ground and they took him into a cruiser," Pigeon said.

"He was giving them a bit of grief, he was saying that his cuffs hurt but he was following orders."

Pigeon also commended police for their handling of the dangerous situation.

"They managed to stop any further loss of life."

Mark Pinder was working at a film studio across the street when a police officer banged at his window.

"I didn't realize it was a police officer right away because he was a plainclothes officer," Pinder said.

"But then I saw that he had a weapon drawn."

The officer told Pinder to get everyone in the basement.

Pinder and his fellow employees were just about to begin a party to celebrate the completion of a show they'd been working on.

"People grabbed a couple of bowls of chips and dip and we just sort of moved the party downstairs," Pinder said.

"Some people seemed quite concerned but there wasn't anyone freaking out or crying," Pinder said.

"Everyone was calling their family and making sure that people knew that they were OK."

Investigators in white suits were at the scene of the shooting late Friday night collecting evidence.

Worksite killings are rare, police say.

"It's something no business can prepare for," Fanning said.
 

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a growing concern, considering the recession, and gloomy economic outlook
 

Plan B

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Not to sound crass, but when you mess with someone's livelihood, things have a potential to get ugly...
 

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Of course Michigan had an office shooting a year or so ago...it was an accounting firm that does taxes. The guy who was fired came back the very next day, killed a secretary (who retire but came back part time for 2 weeks to help out during tax filing time) and shot two of the top men in the firm...they did live...the guy claim he was crazy (maybe so) but got life in prison with no chance of ever getting released.

You really can't stop a nut...this guy blast his way in the office (how the secretary was killed).


Losing your job is tough but to throw your life away and a few others is crazy.
 

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Plan B said:
Not to sound crass, but when you mess with someone's livelihood, things have a potential to get ugly...
Mess with someone's livelihood? What a rediculous statement.

People get laid off, or fired every day in this country. Thankfully, most of them/us don't go back to the company and commit murder.

It's my guess that the company didn't eliminate this man's position for shits and giggles.
 

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pencilneckgeek2 said:
Mess with someone's livelihood? What a rediculous statement.

People get laid off, or fired every day in this country. Thankfully, most of them/us don't go back to the company and commit murder.

It's my guess that the company didn't eliminate this man's position for shits and giggles.
You've never been fired?? Or Let go because of some asshole supervisor? When that's happened to me, I certainly wanted to inflict some violence on the jerk, but I never have of course. And I'm a pretty calm individual...I'm just saying the potential is there...The boss may not have handled the firing in the right way..of course you go on right away to defend the company without knowing additional information...we should have expected that coming from you.
 

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Plan B said:
Not to sound crass, but when you mess with someone's livelihood, things have a potential to get ugly...
Yes, I feel sorry for anyone who loses their job or has employment difficulties many of us have gone through the same.

However this is clearly premeditated murder and it is a shame that Canada no longer has the death penalty, for if ever a case cried out for it, this is one of them! :mad:
 

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Clearly the guy needs to be brought to justice. No excuse for violent behaviour like that.

This, though:
pencilneckgeek2 said:
It's my guess that the company didn't eliminate this man's position for shits and giggles.
PNG, people get cut loose all the time - and I mean every day - based on nothing. Makes no difference how hard you work, how good you are at your job, how loyal or devoted you are to the organization, how well you network, etc. etc. Employees are let go based on the most minor wobble in a stock price, or based on a political decision made by someone in an office on the 27th floor.

Case in point: Bell Canada. Bean-counters cut a huge swath of highly experienced managers and staff about a year ago from the company in anticipation of the private buy-out (that's since fallen through). People with 10, 20 and even 30 years experience were cut loose. Why? To improve the stock price. Did it work? No. Did those people get their jobs back? No.
 

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The Vancouver Sun doesn't spell our why the shooter was terminated, but since the company was having a Christmas party, my mind at least goes to the likelyhood that the shooter (61-year-old Eric Allen Kirkpatrick) didn't fit in, rather than that the company was having economic problems.

In any event Kirkpatrick has now been changed with first-degree murder. That of course doesn't being back the murdered company founder, nor decrease the greater likelyhood that the company may fail therefore causing all the other employees to loose their jobs.
 

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Plan B said:
You've never been fired?? Or Let go because of some asshole supervisor? When that's happened to me, I certainly wanted to inflict some violence on the jerk, but I never have of course. And I'm a pretty calm individual...I'm just saying the potential is there...The boss may not have handled the firing in the right way..of course you go on right away to defend the company without knowing additional information...we should have expected that coming from you.
I used to work at a company a 2 years ago I left because my boss could only kiss ass and didn't know how to work. If we complain to his bosses they wouldn't do anything.
He was trying to get his buddies in his department.
I simply started looking else where. He couldn't find a proper replacement for me. Not even buddies wanted to come, nor did some people last that long because they had to be trained by the Negative Clown. I put up with his [negative clown] stupidity negative attitude because I grew up in that environment but I got fed up with that.

Sure they [boss and NC] said I was a bad worker and all the crap you can think, and they would add this to my work record.
I said "go ahead, work records are not kept by the government, just you or the company. This info is for the future boss only if I apply again he has some info or the future boss needs to hire someone with experience and knows all the clown have left and sure former employees would come back to a new environment."
But don't feel left out I will also add you to the Employer Record department.

The clown lost their jobs a year later. Could you believe the asshole applied where I worked. When I saw him at the interview by accident, I had a chit chat with the HR manager.
 

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Just goes to show you never know what psychos you may be working with.
 

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For every action there is a reaction :: One day at work there was an employee let go :: and the employee told told the boss that he would just leave peacefully :: BUT there would be a day when the employee being fired MIGHT not be so peaceful.
When you are in a power position > you take the territory that comes with it .
If you fire someone you have to except that you very well may have bad luck because of that decision.
You may have sugar in your gas tank or maybe you will come home too a pile of ashes where your house used too be .
It is very sad that something like this happened :: but if you fire ENOUGH people over time the average becomes higher that you will fire the WRONG person .
 

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Aardvark154 said:
the shooter (61-year-old Eric Allen Kirkpatrick) didn't fit in, rather than that the company was having economic problems...
You could be right about the fit; the article doesn't get into details (very sloppy journalism, IMHO).

But if that's the case, then it was a bad HR decision to begin with. Not surprising, since HR departments aren't known to be particularly bright. But maybe that's another thread entirely...
 
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Not excuse for what this guy did, but let me tell this story.

One of the middle management where I currently still work told me they fired a female subordinate once, and made her cry. Then he tells me her husband confronted him in the parking lot as he was leaving work the same day.

He was proud of it.

The sad truth is that this attitude is commonplace now. Middle management dweebs who got where they are by kissing ass, and covering their own ass at the expense of others. By making sure they can always shift responsibility of a problem to someone else, or, being first to line up when their is praise being handed out. We all know the type, and they are toxic in every workplace.
 

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Plan B said:
You've never been fired?? Or Let go because of some asshole supervisor? When that's happened to me, I certainly wanted to inflict some violence on the jerk, but I never have of course. And I'm a pretty calm individual...I'm just saying the potential is there...The boss may not have handled the firing in the right way..of course you go on right away to defend the company without knowing additional information...we should have expected that coming from you.
I've both been fired, and conflicted with a supervisor. However, it would not cross my mind to commit murder in "retaliation." However, some people might think that being dismissed from your job justifies taking another human being's life. I'm not one of those people.

Explain where I "went on to defend the company without knowing additional information." I don't see that anywhere, I made a guess, but that hardly constitutes defending.

As far as expecting that "coming from me", wow, cool, I've developed a reputation.:)
 

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Obviously anyone who is let go from employment has a right to be angry and upset about it. But how did our society get to the place where that gives you the "right" to murder someone?
 

pencilneckgeek2

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Aardvark154 said:
how did our society get to the place where that gives you the "right" to murder someone?
That must have been Plan B . :rolleyes:
 

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Plan B said:
You've never been fired?? Or Let go because of some asshole supervisor? When that's happened to me, I certainly wanted to inflict some violence on the jerk, but I never have of course. And I'm a pretty calm individual...I'm just saying the potential is there...The boss may not have handled the firing in the right way..of course you go on right away to defend the company without knowing additional information...we should have expected that coming from you.
No you are not. You have some issues. Most people get sad, depressed and angry but most do not wish physical harm.
 

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Aardvark154 said:
Obviously anyone who is let go from employment has a right to be angry and upset about it. But how did our society get to the place where that gives you the "right" to murder someone?


That is why I am against the taking of ANYBODIES life...even the SOB who kill others. It sends the wrong message....nobody should have the right to take another life for any reason (unless in self defense).

Now locking them up with one meal a day and throwing away the key, yeah some people that is all they should get.
 
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