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[maurice93]

She can charge what she wants, you can pay what you want.

Exactly. Every client has his own price that he is willing to pay, has there own likes and dislikes. You guys are making this scene overly generic.

Each SP has a different demand level they are trying to achieve, and each SP might have a different view of there worth.

Its no surprise to see you guys attack her. As I said, you don't need 60 interested guys.

With all due respect to the SP who commented on this thread (and I do respect the fact that she was trying to provide advice so I do mean with all due respect),another SP should not advise a girl she should be charging the same as her. Maybe she is looking to see less clients then you? Not all clients are looking for the same thing and has the same interests in SP's **. For many clients, SP'ing is not a generic service, everyone having the same generic looks.

** And I am making no comments on who is better or who looks better, just saying that people have different interests and tastes.


To be fair, Perhaps I am less price sensitive, because I rarely see escorts (I do my hobbying about every six weeks in the high end Toronto MP scene which is generally a step up looks wise, but obviously less "Services"). Given the low volume of escort transactions, and the fact that I am doing OK financially, I really don't differentiate between $250 and $300.. its more about whether I am interested in the girl, and whether her looks are very appealing to me no matter what the cost - meaning I may choose a $200, $250 or $300 provider.

 

[rachelle]

Exactly. Every client has his own price that he is willing to pay, has there own likes and dislikes. You guys are making this scene overly generic.

Each SP has a different demand level they are trying to achieve, and each SP might have a different view of there worth.

Its no surprise to see you guys attack her. As I said, you don't need 60 interested guys.

With all due respect to the fellow SP who commented on thos thread,another SP should not come in a thread and tell a girl she should be charging the same as her. Maybe she is looking to see less clients then you? Not all clients are looking for the same thing and has the same interests in SP's **. For many clients, SP'ing is not a generic service, everyone having the same generic looks.


I NEVER TOLD HER TO CHARGE THE SAME AS ME..I SIMPLY STATED THAT AS A TOURING SP I FIND IT IS BEST TO ADJUST PRICES FROM CITY TO CITY...YOU OBVIOUSLY MISUNDERSTOOD MY COMMENTS..IF ANYTHING I WAS TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THE GIRL TO VISIT BY STATING THAT I HAVE FACED THE SAME ISSUES ON OTHER BOARDS..THERE WAS NO TELLING JUST SUGGESTING..OH AND IF YOUR GONNA POINT A FINGER..POINT IT DON'T TRY AND BE VAGUE WHEN YOU ARE CLEARLY SPEAKING ABOUT ME! WELL THATS WHAT I GET FOR TRYING TO INFORM A GIRL TO WHAT THE GOING RATES ARE LOCALLY...PEOPLE COMPLAIN THAT SP'S DONT TRY TO HELP EACHOTHER BUT WHEN WE DO THIS HAPPENS..NO WONDER SP'S JUST KEEP THERE MOUTHS SHUT! AND WHO SAID IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE WAY WE LOOK OR CLIENTS WANTING THE SAME..I'M VERY AWARE THAT A CLIENT THAT LIKES ME A TALL CURVY BLONDE MAY NOT BE THE SAME CLIENT THAT LIKES AN EXOTIC PETITE BEAUTY LIKE KARMA!


SHE CAN CHOOSE TO TAKE MY ADVICE OR TO IGNORE IT..BUT WHATS WRONG WITH TRYING TO HELP A GIRL BREAK INTO A LOCAL MARKET..

fORGET IT...THATS WHAT I GET FOR TRYING TO HELP..POST IS NOW DELETED!

 

[maurice93]

I understand how you took the direction you did with my comment, and I do feel bad for because it was not intended that way. I will admit the error I made in the "tact" and way I presented my response, and take the blame for upsetting you.

I just get riled up when the guys on here try to force there price preferences, and often with no respect, to both clients and rpviders.

I was editing my wording slightly when you were responding to my post... and clearly acknowledged that you were trying to advise her. If you weren't trying to be nice, you would have simply ignored her. There was obviously no bad intent.

But it is still my feeling that an SP should not tell someone else what to change (and perhaps I did misinterpret your response with regards to that point). It was an opinion. and it would be the same, whoever said it.

 

[DoubleDave]

Its no surprise to see you guys attack her.

This is inflammatory language that is completely uncalled for as no one was even remotely attacking Karma. In fact, the boys used terms like "Very pretty... very hot... cute... attractive... freaky (a compliment in my book)." It pisses me off when I see a Terbite turn against his brothers when they are being both respectful and well behaved.

The boys are trying to keep prices from inflating as they want to enjoy sexy women for a reasonable price. If it works, great! If it doesn't, no harm no foul as NO ONE was degrading the girls or the services they offer. No further lessons in economics are required.

Rachelle, we love you and thank you for providing an amazing service at a good price!

Karma, we love you too, we're just not all as well off as Mr. Money Bags so PLEASE love us back for less $$

 

[Jabba]

Don't think I'll vote today

Hey Karma,
I'm feeling a little sensitive to polls lately. The last one I hosted got yanked for what I believe to be similar reasons. Good luck in your biz though.

 

[Mable]

You are not way off. The ladies in Toronto and especially Montreal charge WAY UNDER $250 for EVERYTHING. Ottawa is an anomaly.. For some reason the travellling girls jack up their prices here. As a result I almost never hobby here.. From time to time I pick a GOE girl at $220 but that is about it.. Far better experiences going to Montreal.

Bye the way why don't some of you ladies in Montreal do what the former luv sisters did, that is come up here, charge a decent rate and make a killing? Gabrielle, Michelle, Stacey would come here, provide an exquisite service that no woman in Ottawa could match and made tons of money by charging a reasonable rate. Boy do I miss them. Hi Gabrielle if you are reading this. You raven beautie. I miss you.

 

[Mable]

Rachelle, I am not directing any comments to you. Just making a statement. I have never seen you and do not know you.. But your comment implied the going rate should be $250 here in Ottawa. I do not agree.

 

[Mable]

And yes to an earlier poster. We are being totally respectful. You ladies can charge whatever you want. But it is important for us Hobbyists to try to keep the cost reasonable. Otherwise, as the history is demonstrating, you girls will charge $250-$300 FOR THE 1/2!!!!! Or more! So there is no need to put us down. No-one has yet to make a disrespectful comment.

 

[SemiRetired]

Like this will ever happen for real .... Stacey lives in Europe now ... missed a chance to hook up with her last month actually .... Raph is retired for good, Mimi, the only Luv sister left, hardly comes to Ottawa any more. I think her last tour here was in July. As for Gab, I am forbidden to comment lol anyway but shall we assume she is busy and happy in her day job lol. They also became popular at a time when the choices are far more limited as well. Even Mimi charges $300 these days.

If u look at E-C these days, there are so many visiting SPs so who cares who charges how much. So many choices from the $250 to $700. Just let the gentlemen and ladies match up with each other. Even I-N sent two ladies in the last week for a reduced rate of $250 but then there are others at $700-$800 range. When I was in Montreal not too long ago, the lovely Elle told me she would be touring soon to Ottawa too based on her FKS related friends' feedback. "Soon" meaning months and not weeks in her time line unfortunately. She is more in the $700 range with 2 hours minimum. You know, we should just be happy that there are so many choices as opposed to the drought we had even as recent as a couple of years ago. Apparently they all found their customers base even at different price ranges so why keep beating on the same horse to death again and again and again ......???!!!

Bye the way why don't some of you ladies in Montreal do what the former luv sisters did, that is come up here, charge a decent rate and make a killing? Gabrielle, Michelle, Stacey would come here, provide an exquisite service that no woman in Ottawa could match and made tons of money by charging a reasonable rate. Boy do I miss them. Hi Gabrielle if you are reading this. You raven beautie. I miss you.

 

[rachelle]

Rachelle, I am not directing any comments to you. Just making a statement. I have never seen you and do not know you.. But your comment implied the going rate should be $250 here in Ottawa. I do not agree.

Well actually what I meant was that the most i know Ottawa clients want to pay is $250, and they expect a full GFE possibly even PSE...thats all..the rates differ very much from girl to girl....Personnally my rates are a little higher in Ottawa to make up for expenses..thats all..nothing else! R

 

[purpleshaft]

This is inflammatory language that is completely uncalled for as no one was even remotely attacking Karma. In fact, the boys used terms like "Very pretty... very hot... cute... attractive... freaky (a compliment in my book)." It pisses me off when I see a Terbite turn against his brothers when they are being both respectful and well behaved.

The boys are trying to keep prices from inflating as they want to enjoy sexy women for a reasonable price. If it works, great! If it doesn't, no harm no foul as NO ONE was degrading the girls or the services they offer. No further lessons in economics are required.

Rachelle, we love you and thank you for providing an amazing service at a good price!

Karma, we love you too, we're just not all as well off as Mr. Money Bags so PLEASE love us back for less $$

I was the guy that described her as freaky, and yes it was a compliment. Freaky and good looking, if I thought she was just a FREAK I wouldn't have said anything! Prices are out of control! I am also going to be looking for 200 and under for the next little while!

 

[dummpy]

Are we so Cheap!

At the risk of loosing friends, I have to admit that $300 is very much average for a premium lady in Ottawa? And I find it at the low end depending on the services given. If this lady does what I like in an enthusiastic way great, the fact that most of you won't be seeing her or trying to get an appointment is just a bonus.

I am thinking that this lady is willing to do extremely personal acts and allow us to get very intimate and personal with her, really for service the ladies should be able to name there price. As I see it if she gets 9 of us willing and able that is $3000 (some of us might leave a tip, I know a bad word on TERB) and probably a worth while trip and she won't be to sore afterward. If she spread that over 3 days and saw on average three guys, then we all get a great experience, to do the same dollar amount at $200 in the same time she would need to see 5 guys a day and I know from my experience that three is a full day. I would feel badly if a second gent was back to back after me or if she had #4 and #5 in the same day. The experience would not be the same for number #1 as it would be for #15 for sure!

I don't think she wants to come town and do the whole team, I think a good quality SP wants a few gentlemen that are not afraid to spend a little extra.

Of course that would only explain the large number of touring ladies that visit Ottawa at $300 + per hour every week.

 

[Mable]

And this is why the ladies are now charging $300 and up from what used to be not long ago $150 and up. Soon it will be $400 and up! Hey Dummpy keep it up, sort of speak!!

 

[GlavaMan]

Everything is Subjective

If an SP wants to charge $300 & she can get it...the more power to her!

Personally, the 'safe GFE' ie. CBJ is more of a deal breaker than the $300.

 

[dummpy]

I don't think it is all my fault, but thanks for the compliment.
However I can tell you that if some middle aged dude wants a piece of me, including jamming his cock down my throat covered or uncovered it will take a hell of a lot more than $2-300. If I am ever stuck how much would you charge?

You guys don't get how degrading this kind of conversation is do you? Why don't we just call it twrb (Toronto whore review board) then they will really know there place, imagine them thinking they can name there price.

And this is why the ladies are now charging $300 and up from what used to be not long ago $150 and up. Soon it will be $400 and up! Hey Dummpy keep it up, sort of speak!!

 

[BoomBoom8]

However I can tell you that if some middle aged dude wants a piece of me, including jamming his cock down my throat covered or uncovered it will take a hell of a lot more than $2-300. If I am ever stuck how much would you charge?

You guys don't get how degrading this kind of conversation is do you?

Well said!!!

 

[Wired_To_You]

However I can tell you that if some middle aged dude wants a piece of me, including jamming his cock down my throat covered or uncovered it will take a hell of a lot more than $2-300. If I am ever stuck how much would you charge?

Why don't we just call it twrb (Toronto whore review board)

Whore, escort, prostitute, hooker. I thought they all meant the same thing. You will have to tell me the difference.
May be when you "date" an escort you feel you are not using the services of a whore? You are only fooling yourself bro. A girl who charges $5 or $700 for sex is a prostitute period. Some girls think that if they charge more they will be less of a prostitute, but that's very naive of them. May be it is not politically correct to call an escort a whore or a hooker, but let's face it, we all know what we are talking about here. I would love to see you busted by LE and tell them "you know, she is not a whore, she is an escort". They will have a good laugh for sure!

 

[Mable]

New lady coming to town. Check ec. Forgot her name. Charge, $400 and up.

Victoria, it may be a yawn to you but for us,.....not so. The prices are going ballistic as we speak.

But it is true, everyone has their price point. And I am different than most I guess. My bank account tells me I can easily afford $1000/hr if I wanted. And believe me I have been tempted. You are an extraordinally attractive woman but I just cannot justify the rates for me. I have said before my experiences with expensive providers has left lots to be desired and so I guess the risk is not worth it for me.

 

[purpleshaft]

limits

I agree, it's obvious a girl can charge whatever she wants or needs to in order to feel good about herself.

I urge my fellow hobbyists to stick together and lets set a limit!!!!

Obviously lots of guys will pay $400 an hour since you are I assume successfully doing so. Lot more guys (like myself) would expect one hell of a PSE with no limitations and may even think we should be able to get rough and maybe even a little crud!!! hahahaha.

Guess I just respect a woman that isn't trying to hose me!

 

[maurice93]

Obviously lots of guys will pay $400 an hour since you are I assume successfully doing so. Lot more guys (like myself) would expect one hell of a PSE with no limitations and may even think we should be able to get rough and maybe even a little crud!!!

Disturbing and offensive.