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Karl Rove : Worse Than Osama Bin Laden

Karl Rove : Worse Than Osama Bin Laden

By Ted Rall

07/04/05 "Yahoo!" - - NEW YORK--In war collaborators are more dangerous than enemy forces, for they betray with intimate knowledge in painful detail and demoralize by their cynical example. This explains why, at the end of occupations, the newly liberated exact vengeance upon their treasonous countrymen even they allow foreign troops to conduct an orderly withdrawal.

If, as state-controlled media insists, there is such a creature as a Global War on Terrorism, our enemies are underground Islamist organizations allied with or ideologically similar to those that attacked us on 9/11. But who are the collaborators?

The right points to critics like Michael Moore, yours truly, and Ward Churchill, the Colorado professor who points out the gaping chasm between America's high-falooting rhetoric and its historical record. But these bête noires are guilty only of the all-American actions of criticism and dissent, not to mention speaking uncomfortable truths to liars and deniers. As far as we know, no one on what passes for the "left" (which would be the center-right anywhere else) has betrayed the United States in the GWOT. No anti-Bush progressive has made common cause with Al Qaeda, Hamas, the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan or any other officially designated "terrorist" group. No American liberal has handed over classified information or worked to undermine the CIA.

But it now appears that Karl Rove, GOP golden boy, has done exactly that.

Last week Time magazine turned over its reporter's notes to a special prosecutor assigned to learn who told Republican columnist Bob Novak that Valerie Plame was a CIA agent. The revelation, which effectively ended Plame's CIA career and may have endangered her life, followed her husband Joe Wilson's publication of a New York Times op-ed piece that embarrassed the Bush Administration by debunking its claims that Saddam Hussein tried to buy uranium from Niger. Time's cowardly decision to break its promise to a confidential source has had one beneficial side effect: according to Newsweek, it indicates that Karl Rove himself made the call to Novak.

One might have expected Rove, the master White House political strategist who engineered Bush's 2000 coup d'état and post-9/11 permanent war public relations campaign, to have ordered a flunky underling to carry out this act of high treason. But as the Arab saying goes, arrogance diminishes wisdom.

Rove, whose gaping maw recently vomited forth that Democrats didn't care about 9/11, is atypically silent. He did talk to the Time reporter but "never knowingly disclosed classified information," claims his attorney. But there's circumstantial evidence to go along with Time's leaked notes. Ari Fleischer abruptly resigned as Bush's press secretary on May 16, 2003, about the same time the White House became aware of Ambassador Wilson's plans to go public. (Wilson's article appeared July 6.) Did Fleischer quit because he didn't want to act as spokesman for Rove's plan to betray CIA agent Plame? Another interesting coincidence: Novak published his Plame column on July 14, Fleischer's last day on the job.

If Newsweek's report is accurate, Karl Rove is more morally repugnant and more anti-American than Osama bin Laden. Bin Laden, after all, has no affiliation with, and therefore no presumed loyalty to, the United States. Rove, on the other hand, is a U.S. citizen and, as deputy White House chief of staff, a high-ranking official of the U.S. government sworn to uphold and defend our nation, its laws and its interests. Yet he sold out America just to get even with Joe Wilson.

Osama bin Laden, conversely, is loyal to his cause. He has never exposed an Al Qaeda agent's identity to the media.

"[Knowingly revealing Plame's name and undercover status to the media]...is a violation of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act and is punishable by as much as ten years in prison," notes the Washington Post. Unmasking an intelligent agent during a time of war, however, surely rises to giving aid and comfort to America's enemies--treason. Treason is punishable by execution under the United States Code.

How far up the White House food chain does the rot of treason go? "Bush has always known how to keep Rove in his place," wrote Time in 2002 about a "symbiotic relationship" that dates to 1973. This isn't some rogue "plumbers" operation. Rove would never go it alone on a high-stakes action like Valerie Plame. It's a safe bet that other, higher-ranking figures in the Bush cabal--almost certainly Dick Cheney and possibly Bush himself--signed off before Rove called Novak. For the sake of national security, those involved should be removed from office at once.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9373.htm
 

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White House Scrambles to Stop Criminal Indictment of Rove

By DOUG THOMPSON
Publisher, Capitol Hill Blue
Jul 6, 2005, 05:55

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_6981.shtml


The Bush Administration is scrambling behind the scenes to stop a criminal indictment against Presidential advisor Karl Rove for disclosing classified information to reporters in an attempt to discredit a White House critic.

Time Magazine emails turned over to a grand jury show Rove leaked CIA Operative Valerie Plame’s name to journalists after her husband, Ambassador Joseph Wilson, went public with claims the Bush Administration knowing used false information to justify the invasion of Iraq. Plame, until the disclosure, worked as a covert operative for the intelligence agency.

“Some government officials have noted to Time in interviews... that Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, is a CIA official who monitors the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction,” Time reporter Matthew Cooper wrote in the magazine in July, 2003.

Emails recently turned over to a federal grand jury investigating the leak show Cooper told his editors that Rove was the source of the information. In addition, Rove attorney Karl Luskin confirms that Cooper interviewed Rove for the article but claims that his client “never knowingly disclosed classified information.”

However, a producer for MSNBC’s Hardball program testified before the grand jury that in July, 2003, Rove called the show’s host, Chris Matthews, and said Plame was “fair game.”

As a top White House aide, Rove has "code level" clearance on security matters and would easily have had access to Plame's status at the CIA. White House sources say he requested additional information on both Plame and Wilson before talking to reporters.

If Rove knowingly disclosed classified information he could face federal felony indictments. Sources within the investigation say special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is pursuing such an indictment against Rove but that the White House is pressuring the Justice Department to put the brakes on such a move.

“It’s a power game,” says one Justice Department attorney familiar with the investigation. “The White House is very, very worried that this will come back down on Rove and them.”

Rove has long been suspected as the leak of Plame’s name which first appeared in conservative commentator Robert Novak’s column in July 2003. Novak has reportedly cut a deal with the special prosecutor to avoid jail time but two other reporters who also reported Plame’s name – Cooper and New York Times reporter Judith Miller – could be jailed for refusing to testify before the grand jury.

MSBC political analyst Lawrence O’Donnell, appearing on the syndicated McLaughlin Group talk show, also outed Rove as the source last Friday, saying he has two sources that confirm Rove masterminded the leak.

Bill Israel, a former reporter who teaches journalism at the University of Massachusetts and who taught with Rove at the University at Texas, says Rove could have easily set up the Plame affair.

“Rove once described himself as a die-hard Nixonite; he is, like the former president, both student and master of plausible deniability,” Israel says. “Consequently, when former U.S. Ambassador Joseph Wilson challenged President Bush’s embrace of the British notion that Saddam Hussein imported uranium from Niger to produce nuclear weapons, retaliation by Rove was never in doubt.”
 

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Karl Rove was right on...like they say if the shoe fits ...wear it...
Well, if you believe that people who have a genuine disagreement with you are terrorist sympathizers, then I could see how you would support Rove's statements. I don't think based on your past posts that you have such a narrow view of the world, however, so I find your defense of Rove baffling.
 

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irlandais9000 said:
Well, if you believe that people who have a genuine disagreement with you are terrorist sympathizers, then I could see how you would support Rove's statements. I don't think based on your past posts that you have such a narrow view of the world, however, so I find your defense of Rove baffling.
I was joking..no worries mate...
 

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Hey when you going to head next door and look me up?????
 

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Hey when you going to head next door and look me up?????
Bay Buchanan was just on CNN stating that Rove's answers have been "Clintonian." When are you going to get get your head out of your butt and condemn traitors? Or is it just another case of "It's OK As Long As You Are a Republican"?
 

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TOVisitor said:
Bay Buchanan was just on CNN stating that Rove's answers have been "Clintonian." When are you going to get get your head out of your butt and condemn traitors? Or is it just another case of "It's OK As Long As You Are a Republican"?
No actualy I refering to you address you supplied awhile back. You know as it turns out we are neighbors in the same block. No how about it...........LUNCH?????
 

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No actualy I refering to you address you supplied awhile back. You know as it turns out we are neighbors in the same block. No how about it...........LUNCH?????
Just come inside tomorrow. I will be the one at the desk in a khaki uniform. Make sure to bring your birth cert and your momma's permission.
 

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Just come inside tomorrow. I will be the one at the desk in a khaki uniform. Make sure to bring your birth cert and your momma's permission.
Sorry but I suspect you would be sweating too much in one of them. BTW seriously check out the place next door.
 

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I think Lawerence O'Donnell used the phrase "Karl Rove should be frog-marched out of the White House in handcuffs":

From: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/11/politics/main708165.shtml

White House: No Comment On Rove
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WASHINGTON, July 11, 2005
On June 10, 2004, Mr. Bush said he stood by his pledge to fire anyone found to have done so.


(CBS/AP) For two years, the White House has insisted that presidential adviser Karl Rove had nothing to do with the leak of a CIA officer's identity. And President Bush said the leaker would be fired.

But Mr. Bush's spokesman wouldn't repeat any of those assertions Monday in the face of Rove's own lawyer saying his client spoke with at least one reporter about Valerie Plame's role at the CIA before she was identified in a newspaper column after her husband, former ambassador Joseph Wilson, wrote an article criticizing the Bush administration's Iraq policies.

Rove described the woman to a reporter as someone who "apparently works" at the CIA, according to an e-mail obtained by Newsweek magazine.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan refused to discuss the matter at two news briefings Monday. He said he would not comment because the leak is the focus of a federal criminal investigation.

"The prosecutors overseeing the investigation had expressed a preference to us that one way to help the investigation is not to be commenting on it from this podium," McClellan said in response to a barrage of questions about Rove and the previous White House denials.
 

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TO,


About 13:10 look me up for lunch.
 

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TOVisitor said:
Let me guesss. You're the really short guy with the white beard and no dick? Right?

Bad guess. Very bad. By hey still open to lunch
 

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Coming from the Law & Order GOP NeoCon-Artists

TOVisitor said:
For those who need a refresher on the story of Rove and his traitorous behaviour:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050711...GOyFz4D;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
The 2 Year Old Rove Coverup Continues....
Are we a party of Laws or Men?
Events in the last 2 years show loyalty to Men Trump the Law for Team 'W'


For 2 years now these so-called Law & Order types in the GOP have been stalling in their phony investigation into Rove's leaking this to the press.
To date the only person in jail is a reporter who never even published his story!
Novak who first published the leak is left alone!

This Cheney/Rove/Bush coverup has dragged on unresolved for 2 years now, which means it has lasted longer than the entire Watergate scandal that forced Nixon out of the White House.

All of this coming from those self righteous neocons that found Clintons hummer so offensive and worthy of impeachment but when faced with 'REAL HIGH CRIMES & MISDEMEANORS' in the case of Rove they just stonewall and obstruct law ......just as Nixon's co-conspirators did in the 70's.

If Rove gave Cooper permission to reveal his name, then probably Bush has already promised Karl a pardon, and this whole affair is just another planned distraction from the Downing Street Memos and the proof that Bush and Blair intentionally lied to start a war of conquest.
 
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