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I saw somebody bemoaning the fact that Kamala Harris was basically invisible and mute for the entire Biden administration and they were asking the question why were they keeping her under wraps and not polishing up their little diamond for more public viewing. I had no idea. Until recently.
 
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Could she do the job, I mean better than Trump, but that is setting the bar very low, the chipmunk that lives in my yard can do a better job than Trump. The question is can she beat Trump and on several different levels probably not.
 

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If Kamala is not Biden's replacement, what exactly is the Vice-President for? They elected her for this very purpose.
 

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They're lining her up if he quits. That would be horrible. I agree she was in the shadows all this time.
 
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Could she do the job, I mean better than Trump, but that is setting the bar very low, the chipmunk that lives in my yard can do a better job than Trump. The question is can she beat Trump and on several different levels probably not.
Any woman of note who's not toeing the Maga line and "getting all uppity" gets villified on Fox. Hillary had 20 years of it. So has Kamala. And of course AOC. If they're a women of color it's particularly viscious. How dare they deign to criticise men!
Kamala was elected senator and attorney General in a state larger in population than Canada. She's more competent than portrayed on the right. That being said, shes not so exceptional that I see her beating Trump. I hope I'm wrong. She'd for sure be a better president. I think the idea James Carville had of a series of town halls where everyone starts at 0 is the way to go. Biden's been a surprisingly effective president but I too worry, but more worried about keeping America a democracy, not a corrupt fascist state where it's secrets are sold off by the Trump royal family. And, if you just devolve to Kamala without a primary that looks a bit ...incomplete. Biden get nominated because he was more centrist than the other candidates, and could thus beat Trump. He did. If Biden did OK in the debate he would have won again. But he was such a disaster, and has not been able to recover yet. Now it is looking like he may not be able to beat Trump. But the anti- Trump vote is so strong (again, if you watch Fox you have no idea that more than half the country is so appalled by trump) if Biden stays he still will win the popular vote. The question is whether he can keep Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
 
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If Kamala is not Biden's replacement, what exactly is the Vice-President for? They elected her for this very purpose.
I don't think they expected Biden to win, they threw her in just to show that they picked a women and black.
 

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Any woman of note who's not toeing the Maga line and "getting all uppity" gets villified on Fox. Hillary had 20 years of it. So has Kamala. And of course AOC. If they're a women of color it's particularly viscious. How dare they deign to criticise men!
Kamala was elected senator and attorney General in a state larger in population than Canada. She's more competent than portrayed on the right. That being said, shes not so exceptional that I see her beating Trump. I hope I'm wrong. She'd for sure be a better president. I think the idea James Carville had of a series of town halls where everyone starts at 0 is the way to go. Biden's been a surprisingly effective president but I too worry, but more worried about keeping America a democracy, not a corrupt fascist state where it's secrets are sold off by the Trump royal family. And, if you just devolve to Kamala without a primary that looks a bit ...incomplete. Biden get nominated because he was more centrist than the other candidates, and could thus beat Trump. He did. If Biden did OK in the debate he would have won again. But he was such a disaster, and has not been able to recover yet. Now it is looking like he may not be able to beat Trump. But the anti- Trump vote is so strong (again, if you watch Fox you have no idea that more than half the country is so appalled by trump) 8d Biden stays he still will win the popular vote. The question is whether he can keep Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvanian.

Oh please, Kamala had serious flaws and is anti charming. AOC is border line nuts.
She was elected in California, that's easy street for a democrat, not the same as winning the country. Also Senators and attorney generals don't go under the microscope nearly as much as someone running for president.
I never said she wasn't competent, but she has serious baggage both in past actions and in unpleasantness. For myself, I can't overlook how she was laughing about her collage drug use [which might have been a lie] while having put behind bars many for doing what she was laughing about, also the whole, Biden is a racist but I will be his running mate just leave a foul taste in my mouth. Not as foul as Trump which I am sure Stormy Daniels can attest but again, low bard.

BTW I am not a republican, I am an absolute monarchist so... When the Economist says Trump is a danger, I think they are underselling things. His whole, I never hear of Agenda 2024 even though many of my peeps are involved with it and I think it's nutty but I wish the luck, WTF, who does that... oh yeah a pathological liar. I am no bloody Trumptard nor do I even have Fox News.

The polls seem to suggest that Kamala wouldn't do any better than Biden.

But just as Republicans can only see the bad, Democrats can't see the drawbacks

Also it isn't a bloody gender thing/race, they will go after anyone who isn't them. Please.

There is one political task she cannot delay, however. That is to understand why her presidential campaign failed, which was not mainly to do with her race or gender, however much of an electoral burden they may be. Her stump speech sounded like group-written marketing spiel (something about wanting to “prosecute the case against Donald Trump”). Her promise—quickly rescinded—to scrap private medical insurance suggested a politician who had no clear idea where or what she stood for: whether on the left, with an emphasis on expanding the government, or towards the centre, with more focus on enterprise and opportunity. This was why the pundits and donors who at first flocked to her quickly moved on. It was in turn why she resorted to playing the race card against Mr Biden. No wonder she makes some Democrats nervous.


Here is a 4 minute video from the same sorts of people who booed Trump at a recent event if you think it's just a MAGA and fox news thing

There are some governors that would have a better shot [Not Newsome what the fuck are they thinking], Buttigreg or however you spell his name would be a promising candidate, well spoken, not ancient not too radical, as far as I know he hasn't screwed the pooch on anything but I could be wrong on that point and the sorts of people who would have a problem with his love of cock would never vote democrat anyways so it's a non issue
 

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Any woman of note who's not toeing the Maga line and "getting all uppity" gets villified on Fox. Hillary had 20 years of it. So has Kamala. And of course AOC. If they're a women of color it's particularly viscious. How dare they deign to criticise men!
Kamala was elected senator and attorney General in a state larger in population than Canada. She's more competent than portrayed on the right
None of the videos put up in this thread were clipped from Fox...So there's that...But Yes Fox does go at her unceremoniously.

She's an equity hire plain and simple...Part of the machine. Never thought I would say this but Bernie Sanders was the best of that lot in their debates a few years ago in 2020.

What gets me about the Dems is that in the last four years they couldn't muster anyone that could reasonably take the reigns. Everybody who was paying attention saw what was coming...On the flipside Trump was finished. Everyone was looking hard at DeSantis as next nominee. All these charges have somehow resurrected him. He's parlayed inflationary times times and a mistrust of government into being cast as a savior, lol. Personally I wish Nikki Haley would have secured the Republican nomination. She's much more palatable than Trump. He sucks the energy out of every room he goes into now. The whole MAGA schtick needs to end. Problem is that Biden probably isn't that guy to end it. Dementia doesn't get any better and it usually goes south fast.
 
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None of the videos put up in this thread were clipped from Fox...So there's that...But Yes Fox does go at her unceremoniously.

She's an equity hire plain and simple...Part of the machine. Never thought I would say this but Bernie Sanders was the best of that lot in their debates a few years ago in 2020.

What gets me about the Dems is that in the last four years they couldn't muster anyone that could reasonably take the reigns. Everybody who was paying attention saw what was coming...On the flipside Trump was finished. Everyone was looking hard at DeSantis as next nominee. All these charges have somehow resurrected him. He's parlayed inflationary times times and a mistrust of government into being cast as a savior, lol. Personally I wish Nikki Haley would have secured the Republican nomination. She's much more palatable than Trump. He sucks the energy out of every room he goes into now. The whole MAGA schtick needs to end. Problem is that Biden probably isn't that guy to end it. Dementia doesn't get any better and it usually goes south fast.
I'd say she's like all VP's...they try to get a section of the electorate to join your side. JFK picked LBJ because he could deliver the south. Obama picked Biden because he was white and an older, seasoned hand. Trump picked Pence because the evangelicals trusted him, as well as some more traditional Republicans. Kamala was picked because she could solidify important sections of the Democratic coalition - women and minorities. So I see her in that time honored tradition.
I don't think she was a great national candidate. She s not nearly as bad as portrayed, but she's not nearly as good to win nationally IMHO. And the Dems boxed themselves in with her. If they keep her as VP and put a white ahead of her as Presidential nominee...hell to pay in the black community, who is essential to winning. They have her at top of ticket...they lose.
At this point anyone who can really point out the contrasts w Trump in clear, easy, systematic ways can win. Newsome can do that. He handed Hannity his arse in a Fox interview. To me Buttigeig would be a fabulous president. But, his boyish look and gayness I still think (sadly) work against him. I think Whitmer would be good, I think Mitch Landrieu would be great. Pritzker would be great too. Even Wes Moore would be great, but would have to have a white VP. But thats why I think they need the ''start from scratch" tournament James Carville advocates. It's how they get around the Kamala problem.
 

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I'd say she's like all VP's...they try to get a section of the electorate to join your side. JFK picked LBJ because he could deliver the south. Obama picked Biden because he was white and an older, seasoned hand. Trump picked Pence because the evangelicals trusted him, as well as some more traditional Republicans. Kamala was picked because she could solidify important sections of the Democratic coalition - women and minorities. So I see her in that time honored tradition.
I don't think she was a great national candidate. She s not nearly as bad as portrayed, but she's not nearly as good to win nationally IMHO. And the Dems boxed themselves in with her. If they keep her as VP and put a white ahead of her as Presidential nominee...hell to pay in the black community, who is essential to winning. They have her at top of ticket...they lose.
At this point anyone who can really point out the contrasts w Trump in clear, easy, systematic ways can win. Newsome can do that. He handed Hannity his arse in a Fox interview. To me Buttigeig would be a fabulous president. But, his boyish look and gayness I still think (sadly) work against him. I think Whitmer would be good, I think Mitch Landrieu would be great. Pritzker would be great too. Even Wes Moore would be great, but would have to have a white VP. But thats why I think they need the ''start from scratch" tournament James Carville advocates. It's how they get around the Kamala problem.
There also a 240 million dollar problem. All the money raised by the Biden campaign has to be used by Biden or Kamala. No one else can. It would either have to go back to donors or used via superpacs(who don't get discounted ad rates like campaigns).

He has vowed not to go. I believe him. They are either going to have to kick him out, or a medical issue takes him out. Either way it's the 25th.
 

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There also a 240 million dollar problem. All the money raised by the Biden campaign has to be used by Biden or Kamala. No one else can. It would either have to go back to donors or used via superpacs(who don't get discounted ad rates like campaigns).

He has vowed not to go. I believe him. They are either going to have to kick him out, or a medical issue takes him out. Either way it's the 25th.
True. I'm sure they'll find some bs route if required. Or I think Biden can put his money on the new candidate. Not 100% sure. Regardless it's a conundrum for sure.
 

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True. I'm sure they'll find some bs route if required. Or I think Biden can put his money on the new candidate. Not 100% sure. Regardless it's a conundrum for sure.
Everything I've read and seen he can't transfer the money to any other candidate than Harris. Its in the laws. Other candidate choices is wishcasting. None of them have the team, ground game set up to even begin. And quite frankly I doubt any credible candidate wants it. They will wait until 2028.

It's Joe, or Kamala.
 

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Everything I've read and seen he can't transfer the money to any other candidate than Harris. Its in the laws. Other candidate choices is wishcasting. None of them have the team, ground game set up to even begin. And quite frankly I doubt any credible candidate wants it. They will wait until 2028.

It's Joe, or Kamala.
She was a DEI hire...As Douglas Murray says ''if you live by DEI you die by DEI''.

There's no way they can overlook her or replace her. Especially with a white male. The optics would be horrible.
 

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I saw somebody bemoaning the fact that Kamala Harris was basically invisible and mute for the entire Biden administration and they were asking the question why were they keeping her under wraps and not polishing up their little diamond for more public viewing.
The storyline here is supposed to be that the Biden Administration was "keeping her under wraps" and making sure she was "basically invisible" ?
 

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The storyline here is supposed to be that the Biden Administration was "keeping her under wraps" and making sure she was "basically invisible" ?
Either that or she and the dems were secretly running things because Biden is too senile.
Depends on the day.
 

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Any woman of note who's not toeing the Maga line and "getting all uppity" gets villified on Fox. Hillary had 20 years of it. So has Kamala. And of course AOC. If they're a women of color it's particularly viscious. How dare they deign to criticise men!
Kamala was elected senator and attorney General in a state larger in population than Canada. She's more competent than portrayed on the right. That being said, shes not so exceptional that I see her beating Trump. I hope I'm wrong. She'd for sure be a better president. I think the idea James Carville had of a series of town halls where everyone starts at 0 is the way to go. Biden's been a surprisingly effective president but I too worry, but more worried about keeping America a democracy, not a corrupt fascist state where it's secrets are sold off by the Trump royal family. And, if you just devolve to Kamala without a primary that looks a bit ...incomplete. Biden get nominated because he was more centrist than the other candidates, and could thus beat Trump. He did. If Biden did OK in the debate he would have won again. But he was such a disaster, and has not been able to recover yet. Now it is looking like he may not be able to beat Trump. But the anti- Trump vote is so strong (again, if you watch Fox you have no idea that more than half the country is so appalled by trump) if Biden stays he still will win the popular vote. The question is whether he can keep Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
She's obviously intelligent having received a law degree. Her parents are also well accomplished both having earned PhD's in their respective fields. But she's not a good politician she seems daft when it comes to public policy and her thinking on the spot skills are poor. She gets caught in lies and has a difficult time spinning them. Her likability factor is also low. She will not be the nominee but may stay on as the VP pick, mostly because of her race. That's why she was picked in the first place.
 
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She's obviously intelligent having received a law degree. Her parents are also well accomplished both having earned PhD's in their respective fields. But she's not a good politician she seems daft when it comes to public policy and her thinking on the spot skills are poor. She gets caught in lies and has a difficult time spinning them. Her likability factor is also low. She will not be the nominee but may stay on as the VP pick, mostly because of her race. That's why she was picked in the first place.
Not obviously intelligent having been heard speaking..... but she ain't a bad looking milf and she looks like she could suck a mean cock.
 
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