Kamala Harris - is she fit to be President?

Butler1000

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So last night wasn't enough for you? I am going to assume there will be more to come but I don't believe she is going to check in with the Trump campaign, Fox Fake news, or you to ask for when she should do the next interview and with who.
Yer kidding right?

One co interview, pre taped, edited, they even snipped it again on YouTube, by a friendly interviewer with lots of leading and softball questions. Yes I watched it.

It was mediocre, no push back really, sympathetic framing.

And yes, she should be doing all media outlets, Trump is. As well how about a good press scrum once a week? 67 days left.

She is hiding. Fearful of screwing up..
 

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It was mediocre, no push back really, sympathetic framing.
That's an interesting way of putting these type of friendly sit-down interviews. All politicians do interviews with "sympathetic" interviewers.

Yes, if you listen closely the "framing" is a subtle concurrence on the part of the interviewer. You sometimes also see this with debate moderators when they frame the so called concerns of the public.
 

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That's an interesting way of putting these type of friendly sit-down interviews. All politicians do interviews with "sympathetic" interviewers.

Yes, if you listen closely the "framing" is a subtle concurrence on the part of the interviewer. You sometimes also see this with debate moderators when they frame the so called concerns of the public.
They also come under fire. As they should. Did you see the Black journalists one Trump did. That was lions den shit. And Kamala bailed on that one.

Imo she was too scared(or the handlers were) of a viral moment in that setting where she could even fuck that up.
 
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They also come under fire. As they should. Did you see the Black journalists one Trump did. That was lions den shit. And Kamala bailed on that one.

Imo she was too scared(or the handlers were) of a viral moment in that setting where she could even fuck that up.
Why would she when it played perfectly into the DEM's hands with Trump massively screwing up? The Dems are not on your schedule and especially not the Republican's schedule for when to do an interview and with who. They are on top, why should they?? She and her advisors will decide when and where to conduct the next interview but I certainly hope she doesn't give Fox Fake News any cookies, they don't deserve it. They were already picking apart her interview before it even happened. Give me a break.
 

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A couple observations of Kamala's CNN interview:

- A "new way forward" seems to be an oxymoron, but with a small campaign window she might be able to sell the idea that she is bringing something new. Kamala has lots of spending initiatives and we would expect that from a progressive politician. I don't think they are "new". It seems more of the same.

- It hurts my ears to hear her say the Administration brought down inflation. The Federal Reserve forced down inflation. We might just be starting to see the resulting pain. Very rarely does the Federal government take fiscal action to assist the Fed in controlling inflation.

- The recap of the COVID years is always interesting political spin. I don't think Americans think jobs were created after the pandemic. Most people merely returned to their jobs. Right or wrong, people also know the Democrats were more aggressive in shutting down aspects of the economy. The United States had these modular solutions to COVID shutdowns that varied by state. Blue States and Red States had different approaches.

- The last several minutes of the interview were horrible for Dana Bash. She participated in setting up a Harris/Walz campaign commercial. That time should have been used to discussing issues instead of delivering more platitudes.
 

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Imo she was too scared(or the handlers were) of a viral moment in that setting where she could even fuck that up.
The Lester Holt interview is in the minds of Kamala's handlers. The Biden Administration protected her after that interview in 2021.

She might be much better in public now. She certainly seems like it on the surface, but that's just on the surface.

A few of our progressive friends might be seeing and thinking she's great. The reality is when you are a State leader in probably the Bluest State in the Union you don't develop sharp political skills. I think Newsom getting out of the State, debating DeSantis and appearing on Fox News has made him a thoroughbred among liberal politicians. He can be a little too slick and doesn't have the authenticity that Obama has, but he's good in front of all types of people.

Where Kamala has to be very sharp and authentic is explaining her past positions versus where she is now. It shouldn't be easy.
 

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That the right wing noise machine is obsessed with McDonald's now is pretty funny.
 
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Don't you think Fox News and all other other outlets that have spoke to Trump would give Kamala airtime if she would answer some questions? She could choose to sit down with a straight news anchor at Fox. This post above seems to be trying hard to spin Kamala's unwillingness to speak to reporters in an open format as a reasonable prerogative.

After all, Trump spoke extensively at a CNN Townhall. Recently, Trump answered questions at the National Association of Black Journalists. You might not like what he says, but we can't say he is inaccessible.

I think it's very difficult for you to offer an honest perspective even when it's staring all of us in the face. This double talk reminds me of the whole "voting for Biden is voting for a team" thing that was splattered all over here before July.
First, I'll say this: I think Harris should do more interviews. I don't think she's scared, or will do a good job. Last night's interview might not have been exciting, but she got her message out. And I think she'll do more in the coming weeks.

But, I agree, she would definitely get airtime on any channel she wants to appear on. What I think you miss is this: She probably doesn't have to go on Fox, while Trump NEEDS to go on every channel. Look at it this way: Harris is probably not going to sway those already in the MAGA cult that Fox has helped cultivate. It doesn't matter what she says, or her vision for America. Nothing she says (or, apparently anything Trump does) will change their minds. In many ways, it is wasted effort.

On the flip side, Trump really doesn't need to appear on Fox or Newsmax, either. He's literally preaching to the choir. So, he needs to speak to the mushy middle of independent voters (as does Harris). That's why he needs to go on CNN and appear at things like the NABJ. All he can hope for is to be allowed to spread his bullshit with little to no pushback from the interviewer. But, if they ask him pointed questions to what he says....he's done.

You might disagree with this, but think about it. What does Harris gain by talking to a Fox News audience, one that has been told only negative things about her for the past five or six years, and the democrat policies for 25 years? I don't care how eloquent a speaker she is, it won't move the needle. It's basically wasted effort.

You might not be happy with the way the MSM is covering her or Trump, but that doesn't mean they are biased. Harris is a bigger story now, because she's different. She has a different energy than Trump or Biden, and it's being reflected in the polls and energy. And, on the other hand, Trump is not campaigning as much, and when he makes appearances, he fucks the dog....like what happened at Arlington.
 

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That's an interesting way of putting these type of friendly sit-down interviews. All politicians do interviews with "sympathetic" interviewers.
Trump included.

It is, in fact, the main sort of interview political figures do.

Yes, if you listen closely the "framing" is a subtle concurrence on the part of the interviewer. You sometimes also see this with debate moderators when they frame the so called concerns of the public.
There are SO many ways these frames get done, and they aren't all sympathetic.
They aren't always directly antagonistic, either.
But there are all kinds of baseline assumptions and subtle "everyone knows" kinds of things.
There are also all the "what is important to ask" bits as well. (Look at that clip that went around of them asking Harris about Trump's comments about race.)
Then there are all the issues around what gets follow up questions and what doesn't.
Then there are edits and what clips get sent around with what kind of description or framing.

People really tend not to pay attention to these sorts of things and they should.
 

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So last night wasn't enough for you?
Of course not.
The point of the demand is to get a "viral moment" that can be used to attack Harris or at least create a juicy media narrative out of.
This wasn't very likely to provide one and it didn't, so therefore it wasn't good enough.
 
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Trump included.

It is, in fact, the main sort of interview political figures do.



There are SO many ways these frames get done, and they aren't all sympathetic.
They aren't always directly antagonistic, either.
But there are all kinds of baseline assumptions and subtle "everyone knows" kinds of things.
There are also all the "what is important to ask" bits as well. (Look at that clip that went around of them asking Harris about Trump's comments about race.)
Then there are all the issues around what gets follow up questions and what doesn't.
Then there are edits and what clips get sent around with what kind of description or framing.

People really tend not to pay attention to these sorts of things and they should.
I reckon the missing McDonald's line in the resume is as grievous as refusing to leave office and committing 34 felonies and running a company built upon fraud. So good on Fox to bear down on what matters!
 

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First, I'll say this: I think Harris should do more interviews. I don't think she's scared, or will do a good job. Last night's interview might not have been exciting, but she got her message out. And I think she'll do more in the coming weeks.

But, I agree, she would definitely get airtime on any channel she wants to appear on. What I think you miss is this: She probably doesn't have to go on Fox, while Trump NEEDS to go on every channel. Look at it this way: Harris is probably not going to sway those already in the MAGA cult that Fox has helped cultivate. It doesn't matter what she says, or her vision for America. Nothing she says (or, apparently anything Trump does) will change their minds. In many ways, it is wasted effort.

On the flip side, Trump really doesn't need to appear on Fox or Newsmax, either. He's literally preaching to the choir. So, he needs to speak to the mushy middle of independent voters (as does Harris). That's why he needs to go on CNN and appear at things like the NABJ. All he can hope for is to be allowed to spread his bullshit with little to no pushback from the interviewer. But, if they ask him pointed questions to what he says....he's done.

You might disagree with this, but think about it. What does Harris gain by talking to a Fox News audience, one that has been told only negative things about her for the past five or six years, and the democrat policies for 25 years? I don't care how eloquent a speaker she is, it won't move the needle. It's basically wasted effort.

You might not be happy with the way the MSM is covering her or Trump, but that doesn't mean they are biased. Harris is a bigger story now, because she's different. She has a different energy than Trump or Biden, and it's being reflected in the polls and energy. And, on the other hand, Trump is not campaigning as much, and when he makes appearances, he fucks the dog....like what happened at Arlington.
I'm not sure who here is saying she has to appear on Fox News. You spent a lot of time in your post setting up this Fox News straw man.
 

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Got to laugh at these right-wing nutjobs who question the fitness and validity of everyone else to be President, yet don't have any issue with the traitor felon Orange Shit Stain. These people are fucking unbelievable. Dumb motherfukcers.
 

Valcazar

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A couple observations of Kamala's CNN interview:

- A "new way forward" seems to be an oxymoron, but with a small campaign window she might be able to sell the idea that she is bringing something new. Kamala has lots of spending initiatives and we would expect that from a progressive politician. I don't think they are "new". It seems more of the same.
"Oxymoron" isn't the word you're looking for here, but I know what you're getting at.
This particular attempt at framing/political jiu jitsu is interesting, I agree.

She gets some help here from Trump.
Since he did the whole "I never lost" thing, and he does things like insist on still being called President and using the symbols of the office in various ways, she can kind of slide in with this contrast in a way that probably would be harder in other circumstances.

- The last several minutes of the interview were horrible for Dana Bash.
Dana Bash shouldn't have been expected to be much better than "horrible".
She's very much the typical "media talking head" non-reporter that is the norm these days.
 

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Why would she when it played perfectly into the DEM's hands with Trump massively screwing up? The Dems are not on your schedule and especially not the Republican's schedule for when to do an interview and with who. They are on top, why should they?? She and her advisors will decide when and where to conduct the next interview but I certainly hope she doesn't give Fox Fake News any cookies, they don't deserve it. They were already picking apart her interview before it even happened. Give me a break.
I think the general American public has the right to see her questioned considering no primary. But you are correct she does not want to speak to them.

They might well find out they don't like her.
 
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Of course not.
The point of the demand is to get a "viral moment" that can be used to attack Harris or at least create a juicy media narrative out of.
This wasn't very likely to provide one and it didn't, so therefore it wasn't good enough.
The point is to see her in action. Why so afraid of that?
 
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The Lester Holt interview is in the minds of Kamala's handlers. The Biden Administration protected her after that interview in 2021.
The Holt interview is probably something they think about, but there is also 4 years under Biden, who pretty clearly holds the White House Press Corps in a fair amount of contempt.
I strongly suspect Harris has developed a similar view (one the Corps isn't doing much to change) and so it is going to be pretty frosty between them.

A few of our progressive friends might be seeing and thinking she's great. The reality is when you are a State leader in probably the Bluest State in the Union you don't develop sharp political skills. I think Newsom getting out of the State, debating DeSantis and appearing on Fox News has made him a thoroughbred among liberal politicians. He can be a little too slick and doesn't have the authenticity that Obama has, but he's good in front of all types of people.
Whether or not Newsom can expand his national profile remains unknown.
Look at DeSantis and others who imploded completely leaving their smaller ponds.
Hell, I will include Harris among those. Hopping straight to the 2020 presidential campaign didn't work out for her well and she didn't get very far.
She does seemed to have learned lessons from that and improved a lot.

Newsom taking the opportunity to start building while still governor may pay off for him when he really does make his run, since he won't have that same shock transition.
 
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