Justified in the way he was arrested or not?
- Thread starter Jubee
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Justified under American law. In the first three minutes :
-Probable cause - registered owner has suspended license.
-Failure to stop st stop bar.
-Failure to comply to police order.
-Resisting arrest.
-Probable cause - registered owner has suspended license.
-Failure to stop st stop bar.
-Failure to comply to police order.
-Resisting arrest.
The takedown was not justified. He was complying to not face the officer, but the officer had already decided to take him down. He reacted, as anybody would who's about to be thrown to the ground. If there's any justice, the real charges are going to get dismissed if he gets a public defender who's the least bit interested and not going to go for a plea bargain, and not before he spends the next year locked up in remand until the the case gets to trial.
The US is the exceptional society. Uniforms can violate people's rights, but that's ok and 'thanks for your service'. Employees of the US government can shoot people abroad and they call that 'collateral damage'. The public mental shift started with the movie Saving Private Ryan, as US servicemen are seen shooting enemy soldiers who had surrendered, and that's ok because they were bad guys (they did a lot of that during WW2, but it was never acknowledged because they won the war; the losers though had to account because they lost; now, it happens so often that nobody cares, especially if the shootees are brown and have odd looking headdress). Now, the war has reached the homeland, and police are militarized, and the military have enemies. Black people are automatic suspects, and the innocent will be classed as collateral damage. Nobody cares unless it happens to them.
The US is the exceptional society. Uniforms can violate people's rights, but that's ok and 'thanks for your service'. Employees of the US government can shoot people abroad and they call that 'collateral damage'. The public mental shift started with the movie Saving Private Ryan, as US servicemen are seen shooting enemy soldiers who had surrendered, and that's ok because they were bad guys (they did a lot of that during WW2, but it was never acknowledged because they won the war; the losers though had to account because they lost; now, it happens so often that nobody cares, especially if the shootees are brown and have odd looking headdress). Now, the war has reached the homeland, and police are militarized, and the military have enemies. Black people are automatic suspects, and the innocent will be classed as collateral damage. Nobody cares unless it happens to them.
He was complying to not face the officer?
He had no ID, he mentioned "drugs" and he wasn't compliant in any fashion.
Maybe he did have some warrants out for him, but no ID, can't know for certain.
Black, white, hispanic, Asian, it wouldn't have mattered.
He had no ID, he mentioned "drugs" and he wasn't compliant in any fashion.
Maybe he did have some warrants out for him, but no ID, can't know for certain.
Black, white, hispanic, Asian, it wouldn't have mattered.
Whatever he is supposed to have done, it doesn't excuse the behaviour of the officer. Plus, the charge of resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer are bogus. Punishment is the job of the court, and not law enforcement. If you want police to mete out punishment, then maybe you wouldn't mind living in Central America or Saudi Arabia where people have little or no rights. Who needs courts when police can beat you up before hand, or maybe deposit a piece of lead into your skull?He was complying to not face the officer?
He had no ID, he mentioned "drugs" and he wasn't compliant in any fashion.
Maybe he did have some warrants out for him, but no ID, can't know for certain.
Black, white, hispanic, Asian, it wouldn't have mattered.
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Exactly.Justified under American law. In the first three minutes :
-Probable cause - registered owner has suspended license.
-Failure to stop st stop bar.
-Failure to comply to police order.
-Resisting arrest.
Is this arrest considered newsworthy?
Sick and tired of seeing citizens not comply, resist arrest, then expect to be handled like priceless works of art.
The police who were dealing with the guy are very lucky the woman with the guy was not crazy and had a gun. Otherwise they would have been two dead policeman. There are probably some that wish she was and did.
the guy had no ID and clearly wasn't having any of it, he actually threw himself against the car not the cop.Whatever he is supposed to have done, it doesn't excuse the behaviour of the officer. Plus, the charge of resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer are bogus. Punishment is the job of the court, and not law enforcement. If you want police to mete out punishment, then maybe you wouldn't mind living in Central America or Saudi Arabia where people have little or no rights. Who needs courts when police can beat you up before hand, or maybe deposit a piece of lead into your skull?
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What more was the cop to do once you felt the attitude really come on strong?
