Just shut Canada Post down already

K Douglas

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I needed to get an envelope with a few tax documents to a client that lives in Burlington. The cheapest XPress Post price (3 business days no signature required) was $28.25 including HST from my office in Etobicoke. This same time last year it cost me $19.20 including HST. Almost 50% more. What a load of crap. I refuse to pay that nonsense.
 

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I needed to get an envelope with a few tax documents to a client that lives in Burlington. The cheapest XPress Post price (3 business days no signature required) was $28.25 including HST from my office in Etobicoke. This same time last year it cost me $19.20 including HST. Almost 50% more. What a load of crap. I refuse to pay that nonsense.
How much would Fedex or similar commercial alternates be for the same thing?
 
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K Douglas

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How much would Fedex or similar commercial alternates be for the same thing?
I have a Purolator account. They offer next day for $29.99. I don't need that level of service. The client is currently out of the country.
 
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K Douglas

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Use email document with some docusign type service.

I use Adobe Scan app and Adobe signature to completely avoid printing or posting paper documents.
The client wants original documentation back and a physical copy of her tax filings. She's retired and old school.
 
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K Douglas

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Why are you sending them with XPress Post? Could just put them in a 8x11 folder thing and see how many stamps would be required and it'd get there in under 5 business days probably. Probably would have been under $10. Guessing the client wanted a tracking number or your company to confirm it arrived which seems pointless if sig isn't required.
I don't like putting confidential information in regular mail because the chance of losing it is a lot higher than with XPress Post.
 

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I needed to get an envelope with a few tax documents to a client that lives in Burlington. The cheapest XPress Post price (3 business days no signature required) was $28.25 including HST from my office in Etobicoke. This same time last year it cost me $19.20 including HST. Almost 50% more. What a load of crap. I refuse to pay that nonsense.
It's gotten so bad that my office has just resorted to using courier services that tend to be as expensive or slightly cheaper and will get there way faster than mailing something
 

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Still cheaper than courier. Canada Post still loses hundreds of millions of dollars a year, so clearly they aren't charging enough for the products they are competing with private couriers for. Or for the regular mail for that matter.
 

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While certainly Canada Post can use some streamlining and efficiency improvements, including reducing delivery frequency, and cutting out home delivery, with exceptions for those who truly need that, imo it is still an essential service for many Canadians, without any reasonably affordable day-to-day alternatives.

Just like the police, firefighters, and other tax funded essential services...
 

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The client wants original documentation back and a physical copy of her tax filings. She's retired and old school.
My accountant sent us a note 4 years ago that she's going full digital and that all those who needed a hard copy would be invoiced an extra 100$.
She did not lose a single client, as you comply easily or you pay.

I guess you will simply invoice the client, so down the road you won't have to pay.
 
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K Douglas

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My accountant sent us a note 4 years ago that she's going full digital and that all those who needed a hard copy would be invoiced an extra 100$.
She did not lose a single client, as you comply easily or you pay.

I guess you will simply invoice the client, so down the road you won't have to pay.
That's 95% of my clientele everything is in digital form. But the other 5% want physical hard copies. Yes I rebill expenses but with this particular client she is lower income and I try as best to keep her price as low as possible.
 
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Still cheaper than courier. Canada Post still loses hundreds of millions of dollars a year, so clearly they aren't charging enough for the products they are competing with private couriers for. Or for the regular mail for that matter.
Canada Post employees get paid exceptionally for the job they do in comparison to private couriers, and all they do is complain about not having enough. The reality check will be real for this entitled group.
 
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It should be a government service, but it should be the mail only. Not business packages. They use the fact they have a money losing delivery network that is required by law to serve every address to subsidize the small package division to undercut courier companies, including the largest one, which they own. If grandma knits a sweater, she can mail it. If Amazon wants to ship a box, send it through a courier company or their own delivery network, not some artificially subsidized undercutting service.
 

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Canada Post employees get paid exceptionally for the job they do in comparison to private couriers, and all they do is complain about not having enough. The reality check will be real for this entitled group.
Depends which courier companies you are talking about. UPS, Fedex and Purolator all make well above what a Canada Post delivery person makes and it's not even close. As well, Canada Post employees also have 10% taken off their gross pay each week for pension contribution, the courier companies all have fully employer paid pensions. The average UPS driver makes north of $100k with basic overtime and many of them work a lot more overtime than that. Canada Post letter carriers have to pound away at the OT to get over $70-75k
 

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i dont think they should be shut down but i definitely think there needs to be some manner of optimization of their workforce and business model
 
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