Just out of curiosity...

ClooneyII

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Speaking for myself, I appreciate "sooner rather than later" in terms of hearing back from an SP on a future date. Some of us are "planners" who like to schedule. I realize its a gamble for both sides with the whole pre-book thing, but I really enjoy the satisfication of knowing "a date is set." An SP is coming to Ottawa in a couple of weeks and we were pre-booked shortly after her announcement.
 

CamillaBR

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Speaking for myself, I appreciate "sooner rather than later" in terms of hearing back from an SP on a future date. Some of us are "planners" who like to schedule. I realize its a gamble for both sides with the whole pre-book thing, but I really enjoy the satisfication of knowing "a date is set." An SP is coming to Ottawa in a couple of weeks and we were pre-booked shortly after her announcement.
Sounds reasonable ClooneyII, and I understand the pre-booking scenario. I should have formulated my question a bit better though.
My question was regarding when you text an Indy SP to request the information and to possibly book for the next day. I've been having problems with young 'hobbyists' on that matter a lot lately. I usually reply within the fifteen minutes but if I'm getting ready to meet someone/or in a session with someone, it will obviously take me some time to answer.
What has been happening quite often is that I will reply to someone's message right before getting in the shower/before meeting someone and when I'm done and check my phone, there will be 5-7 messages from the same person with the "Are you there????" "?????" etc. So I was just wondering if it's a problem with the "young generation" of hobbits that are used to people answering their text messages in minutes, if it's just the downside of being an Indy SP, combination of both or plain bad timing.
 

CamillaBR

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Sounds reasonable ClooneyII, and I understand the pre-booking scenario. I should have formulated my question a bit better though.
My question was regarding when you text an Indy SP to request the information and to possibly book for the next day. I've been having problems with young 'hobbyists' on that matter a lot lately. I usually reply within the fifteen minutes but if I'm getting ready to meet someone/or in a session with someone, it will obviously take me some time to answer.
What has been happening quite often is that I will reply to someone's message right before getting in the shower/before meeting someone and when I'm done and check my phone, there will be 5-7 messages from the same person with the "Are you there????" "?????" etc. So I was just wondering if it's a problem with the "young generation" of hobbits that are used to people answering their text messages in minutes, if it's just the downside of being an Indy SP, combination of both or plain bad timing.
hobbyists, not hobbits. :biggrin:
 

ClooneyII

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First, LOL to the "hobbyists/hobbits" thing going on... :) Glad you clarified the question because I wondered if I had gotten it. Let me retool my answer now. Although, as stated before, I am a planner, there are times when I hit Backpage ready to go! This recently happened to me when I sent a text and literally did not get a response for 3 hours. Clearly, by that time, I had "moved on." For me, I usually give 45-60 minutes before I "write it off" (which in my mind is the time it may take to finish an appointment or shower.) I hope that is more helpful. By the way, you look beautiful and you have some great reviews!
 

asuran

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For BP ladies, usually an hour or two as I expect the SP would be 'busy' with her business.

Of those hobbits that need quick replies and sends messages constantly. I'm sure you can already draw the conclusion that they have a tendency to be pushy. If you are busy enough and don't want to take the risk, just send them to block list.
 

solo223

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Sounds reasonable ClooneyII, and I understand the pre-booking scenario. I should have formulated my question a bit better though.
My question was regarding when you text an Indy SP to request the information and to possibly book for the next day. I've been having problems with young 'hobbyists' on that matter a lot lately. I usually reply within the fifteen minutes but if I'm getting ready to meet someone/or in a session with someone, it will obviously take me some time to answer.
What has been happening quite often is that I will reply to someone's message right before getting in the shower/before meeting someone and when I'm done and check my phone, there will be 5-7 messages from the same person with the "Are you there????" "?????" etc. So I was just wondering if it's a problem with the "young generation" of hobbits that are used to people answering their text messages in minutes, if it's just the downside of being an Indy SP, combination of both or plain bad timing.
Depends...i check the time of day....if i text at say...3:15....i allow anything from at 20 to 50 minutes as the SP may be entertaining someone...usually i plan quite a few hours in advance so i'm not worried if it takes over an hour, sometimes i plan days head...i never expect someone to answer right away although many do within 5 minutes....the impatience from the young hobbits i put on the generational attitude that they want everything cooked and served right now or else...i rarely do stuff spur of the moment, a quick way to a disappointment.....besides it's actually fun to take time and plan...

was nice talking to a Pats fan as opposed to the Brady haters....hahaha...
 

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to OP Camilla/Giselle ... You can be a bit quick to pull the trigger on someone. I was interested in seeing you last year. We had some back n forths which is customary but our shedules didn't mesh. My texts were always polite and respectful. Then I get a bitchy 'don't contact me again' text. And this is before you ever knew I hate the fucking Patriots! lol
 

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to OP Camilla/Giselle ... You can be a bit quick to pull the trigger on someone. I was interested in seeing you last year. We had some back n forths which is customary but our shedules didn't mesh. My texts were always polite and respectful. Then I get a bitchy 'don't contact me again' text. And this is before you ever knew I hate the fucking Patriots! lol
that is true....i got the same though it didn't deter me from seeing those super sexy hands and i did.....a little skulduggery on my part was in order to accomplish that...once there i thought we got along pretty good, specially when the Pats came up....lol

a little patience Giselle with us older chaps...we tend to ask a few questions before we dive in the unknown......
 

GoinDown91

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Solo223 .. you are a sly fox! Glad to hear my experience was not unique lol
Latina ladies are definitely hot ... and hot headed! Short of getting a new cell # not sure I can re-engage w her.
How did you do it ?
 

solo223

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wish i was a sly fox all the time, i'd do better in this world...but hey...sometimes it happens, better than never....and yes that they are hot headed.....runs in their blood like the irish...but she's quite cool once you break the ice....

Sorry Giselle baby....but sometimes playing hard to get elicits from me a 'ho yeah, now u wait a minute'.....in my case, it was like a few weeks before i figured it out....haha...blame it on your hands....if they had not sparked my interest, i would have said...too bad....move along sport...
 

CamillaBR

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to OP Camilla/Giselle ... You can be a bit quick to pull the trigger on someone. I was interested in seeing you last year. We had some back n forths which is customary but our shedules didn't mesh. My texts were always polite and respectful. Then I get a bitchy 'don't contact me again' text. And this is before you ever knew I hate the fucking Patriots! lol
Ah, I would have to disagree with you on that matter, but I can sorta see where you are coming from.

There is a post now from an SP asking about Terb or BP, and most of the answers are that "BP is a miss or hit", "fishing" etc and I agree 100% because it is not only for hobbyists, the same happens for us SPs.
When I started in this business back in 2012/13, I would get around - and it's not a joke - two hundred texts per day. Between noon and 10pm the phone wouldn't stop. I then learned that from those 200, only 50 were interested in meeting and from those 50 only half of them would set up a date and time to meet and again, less than the half would show up.
This business would be perfect if there were not thousand of time wasters out there, guys that get off by setting up a meeting and never showing up, guys that just want to ask endless questions to keep a conversation going, guys that want to pay half the price for the same services/time. When I see angry SPs out there posting screenshot of conversations I completely understand their point, and I also understand why some of you guys don't understand why some SP is posting a screenshot of what appears to be a "normal question"; It is really hard to explain I guess, you would have to be at this end of the story.

It frustrates me to death when, specially for first time meeting, I book for someone for, let's say 2pm and the person texts me at 2pm saying that he will be 15min late. I don't book with short notice and I also don't book someone for 2 and someone else for 2:30, I need a time to get ready, shower etc... So when someone is late and cancels the meeting too often, it messes up with our whole schedule.
A few weeks ago I got this guy texting me, and he was very respectful and polite, booked for one hour. Two minutes later, a regular of mine texted asking if he could book for an hour at the same time the "polite" gentleman had asked. I had to pass on the meeting with the regular because he was only available at that time. Time to meet the "polite and respectful" guy arrives, I wait 5, 10, 15min... Text him and nothing. Thirty minutes later I get a "you were pranked".
Similar happened a few days ago, person is 40minutes late and wants to meet me anyway because "it's not his fault that he took a wrong exit" followed by "Im here! I will pay more".

I'm not saying that you and solo223 did those things, I would have to check my old phone and see what you guys said/did that set up a red flag for me. I hardly think it would be an overreaction, but feel free to send me the last few digits of the phone # by DM so I can check it out, if you guys want, of course.

All I'm trying to say is that, it might sound like I (and maybe other SPs) play the hot headed card, but we are just trying to filter the good ones from the bad ones, and unfortunately, sometimes it's a "miss and hit" ;) Hope it makes sense!
 

CamillaBR

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that is true....i got the same though it didn't deter me from seeing those super sexy hands and i did.....a little skulduggery on my part was in order to accomplish that...once there i thought we got along pretty good, specially when the Pats came up....lol

a little patience Giselle with us older chaps...we tend to ask a few questions before we dive in the unknown......
And it's okay guys, you don't have to love the Patriots to come see me. We don't need reassurance that we are the best team in the league :)
 

thumper18474

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And it's okay guys, you don't have to love the Patriots to come see me. We don't need reassurance that we are the best team in the league :)
Umm...ahem...Steelers...6 SB rings
Mic drops and walks away....
BTW...I would come see you DESPITE the fact you are a Patriots Fan.....THAT'S how open minded I am:fencing:
 

CamillaBR

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Umm...ahem...Steelers...6 SB rings
Mic drops and walks away....
BTW...I would come see you DESPITE the fact you are a Patriots Fan.....THAT'S how open minded I am:fencing:
It's okay. I don't mind the Steelers and your only-two-SB-rings-giant-head-Quarterback. I do cheer for them when they play against the Bengals. ;) Nobody is perfect after all
 

Frank Gravey

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When I started in this business back in 2012/13, I would get around - and it's not a joke - two hundred texts per day. Between noon and 10pm the phone wouldn't stop. I then learned that from those 200, only 50 were interested in meeting and from those 50 only half of them would set up a date and time to meet and again, less than the half would show up.

This whole exchange contains a lot of enlightening info, and thanks to Camilla for kicking it off.

To answer your question Camilla, I have to allude to Solo's observation that at least one or two polite - and relevant - follow up text exchanges can go a long way in facilitating the decision making process. Having said that, I included the part in bold above, because I DO appreciate that the amount of garbage you SP's now have to wade thru on a day after day after day basis must be very wearying indeed.

My experience has been that 'inquiry' texts are acknowledged pretty darn promptly considering the number all of you have incoming. I also try to make it sound intelligent enough that it would be worth the SP's while to answer. If I don't hear within a few hours, and am really keen to hear back, I'll just do a repeat send. If there's nothing after that, forget it.

As asuran said, if someone texts you 6 or 7 times asking 'are you there' that's high maintenance enough that I would delete, delete, delete. My two cents.
 

Frank Gravey

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I have a follow up question for Camilla -

Any thoughts on this - I have an SP's number and info that I tucked away 'for future reference'. Perhaps a 'repeat visitor' or maybe someone here in town who I just haven't contacted/seen yet. Let's say they aren't advertising actively at this time. Is it OK to send a SINGLE polite text asking if there's any chance of seeing them (or when they think they might next be available) - acknowledging that I'm aware they haven't got anything in the way of postings currently to suggest they are available? Or is this regarded as being a pain in the ass?

I must confess I am Backpage reliant. I know it's a 'quality rainbow' out there, but I look for patterns, repeat visitors etc, and then try to cross reference anything on TERB with what appeared on BP. Not easy to do sometimes.
 
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