Jury Duty Twice, got out of it

unassuming

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1st time: 2019- Got my summons to be on jury selection panel of potential jurors,, got out of it, as I was a caregiver and got a doctor's note from their doctor to excuse me from the civic duty, whew!

2nd time: This week, a murder case from 3 years ago , young offender at time, Day 2 of selection process: long boring wait in the jury lounge, person that announces what is happening, finally shows up and states that every one is excused from civic duty and are allowed to go home. Everyone claps and cheers, announcer then says we won't be eligible again for another 3 years. WHEW!!!!!

Naturally I was checking out all the female jurors; only 2 caught my eye:, not bad looking red head around 30, nice body, and a 20 something middle eastern, possibly spanish hottie- nice ass.
 
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I've gotten out of it three times because I work for a small company and I cannot be away for any longer than about a month at a time.

There's no guarantee how long a trial can go on for. A friend of mine in Montreal works with someone who was a juror in a civil case that went on for five years. They'd come in to work when there was no session that day, but I'm sure it depleted their income substantially.
 
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Homer Simpson said the easiest way to get out of jury duty is to say you are prejudiced against all races . 😂😂
That would have been my next play If I did get selected as a juror , I would have told the judge that because my retail store security back ground, almost 40 years, certain racial groups commit the most shoplifting and I would not have been an impartial juror!, he would have excused me as a juror.
 
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I got called once for the juror selection. There were over 100 people and I had a feeling for sure that they were going to pick me.

I was right.

It was a first degree murder trial that took place in an apartment building. (The murder, not the trial. That was for any smartasses. LOL)

There was no direct evidence but a solid case for the prosecution built on circumstantial evidence. We deliberated for about 5 hours and we were at 10-2 for guilty.
There were some CCTV showing the suspect in the building and going on the elevator up, but none that actually showed him entering her unit. The 2 dissenters said, "I can't send him to jail if I'm sure he actually went in." After some back and forth, I said "Well, if he didn't go to her unit, where did he go? Because wherever he went, he has a solid alibi yet he never offered one. What alibi did he refuse to use such that the consequences of using that alibi are worse than going to jail for 25 to life."

Within 10 minutes it was 12-0 and were able to render our verdict without having to be sequestered overnight.
 

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I got called once for the juror selection. There were over 100 people and I had a feeling for sure that they were going to pick me.

I was right.

It was a first degree murder trial that took place in an apartment building. (The murder, not the trial. That was for any smartasses. LOL)

There was no direct evidence but a solid case for the prosecution built on circumstantial evidence. We deliberated for about 5 hours and we were at 10-2 for guilty.
There were some CCTV showing the suspect in the building and going on the elevator up, but none that actually showed him entering her unit. The 2 dissenters said, "I can't send him to jail if I'm sure he actually went in." After some back and forth, I said "Well, if he didn't go to her unit, where did he go? Because wherever he went, he has a solid alibi yet he never offered one. What alibi did he refuse to use such that the consequences of using that alibi are worse than going to jail for 25 to life."

Within 10 minutes it was 12-0 and were able to render our verdict without having to be sequestered overnight.
You were Henry Fonda and got E G Marshall and Lee J Cobb to turn.
 
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Received jury notification twice and was able to get out of showing up both time. They changed the process a bit from the first and second time I was notified since I was able to avoid any further jury notifications the second time.

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You were Henry Fonda and got E G Marshall and Lee J Cobb to turn.
Nope.

Henry Fonda convinced the jury to find the defendant not guilty in 12 Angry Men. shack convinced them to render a guilty verdict.

I don't agree with @shack 's reason "he has a solid alibi yet he never offered one". A defendant in a criminal case has no obligation to provide ANY evidence that he is not guilty. In most cases, the defendant will never testify on the witness' stand, (except on TV, or in a movie). The burden of proof is placed 100% on the prosecution to prove, within reasonable doubt, that the defendant is guilty.

Although it often doesn't practice what it preaches, the primary purpose of a Criminal trial is to prevent an innocent accused from being convicted, rather than to convict one who is guilty. 'He probably did it' isn't, and shouldn't be good enough.

As shack said "There was no direct evidence...". The accused was seen entering an elevator on security video. It's doubtful that no other person also entered the elevator. Someone else may also have walked up several flights of stairs instead, to reach the same floor. Who would do something like that? @unassuming is one who might, (but I'm not suggesting HE should be a suspect, for that reason alone).

The accused did not offer an alibi. There are many valid reasons why someone might not. Here's a good one: Suppose he entered the building for the sole purpose of banging the wife of a gang boss. If he gave that alibi, he'd get whacked, and she probably would, too.

It seems like there were no witnesses to the murder. Was the accused in the apartment building at any time prior to the date of the murder? If yes, some physical evidence of his presence might be found at the crime scene, but it would not necessarily be relevant. Circumstantial evidence alone, regardless of how strong it might be, should never be enough to convict someone of murder.
 
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I sat in the pool but wasn't selected about 10 years ago.
Was for sexual assault.
Three in their thirties go to a hotel room to get down. 2 hes and a she.
Then she said something went down she did not sign up for, so crown was chasing that.
No one over 40 was selected.

Then I filled out the screener questiion sheet a few months back, so likely will get called again soon.
 

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Nope.

Henry Fonda convinced the jury to find the defendant not guilty in 12 Angry Men. shack convinced them to render a guilty verdict.
My tongue in cheek response was meant to imply that it was kind of like 12 Angry Men in reverse: shack turned the last 2 juror hold outs>>>innocent to guilty.
 
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One trial that we (potential jurors) were told would probably go on for close to two years, (it did) a candidate got dismissed because he said he heard voices and knew before hand who was guilty. A hash smuggling crime if you can believe that. Didn't get called thankfully.
The second degree murder case I got selected for went on for about a week . Nice gig. Show up at 10.00 lunch break at 11.30 or so. Back in around 2.00 for a couple of hours. I could take that for a while. Sequestered from noon till next morning. Slap up meals for lunch and dinner at high priced restaurants I would never have considered trying out. Nice hotel. Nice breakfast. Verdict and out. (guilty)
Call me any time for that.
Now I can use my age as an excuse to dodge it.
 

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Was called twice in the land of the Newfies. I wanted to serve because they paid a bit and I had nothing else going on, but alas I was not picked.

Not called since I moved to Ontario slightly over 20 years ago.
 

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My mom got called and really enjoyed it. Guy was accused of diddling his daughter. Mom said kid was clearly coached and no one on the jury was convinced.
 
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