Judge rejects Ontario man’s ‘racist will’ .

[one.of.a.kind]

No, it is "overturned." And it is also "overstepped."

Where did you learn English? At Honest Ed's?

And did you read my post above before offering your learned opinion? Or are you hard of reading, too?

Perry

I appreciate you showing people your true colours. Obviously age is causing you a problem.

People on this board don't like a grammar Nazi and after all these years on this board you haven't figured that out.

You sure feel you are better than the rest the people on this board.

Too bad you don't like Honest Ed. He was one hell of a guy.

 

[saxon]

I have a big problem with this, the judge has made his decision based on "public policy", what right does a judge have to determine what public policy is? In the same article there was mention of an east coast man who left his money to an American neo nazi group and a judge ruled against it saying the same reason, that decision is under appeal. I don't think the government or the courts should have the right to interfere in someone's private finances even if a guy wants to leave his fortune to a hooker and leave nothing to his wife and kids.

 

[wazup]

I appreciate you showing people your true colours. Obviously age is causing you a problem.

People on this board don't like a grammar Nazi and after all these years on this board you haven't figured that out.

You sure feel you are better than the rest the people on this board.

Too bad you don't like Honest Ed. He was one hell of a guy.

I think it's more a case of a lawyer reading a post from someone who is writing complete nonsense, why don't you stick to your girlie threads, that's your thing.

 

[one.of.a.kind]

I think it's more a case of a lawyer reading a post from someone who is writing complete nonsense, why don't you stick to your girlie threads, that's your thing.

Please don't. It could be dangerous.

 

[The Fruity Hare]

Forgive him... spelling is not is strong suit.

But on the issue, it is not a question of public policy and no rights of a member of the public is affected... but you never know what an appellate court might come up with these days...

Perry

Would that perhaps be "no rights of a member of the public are affected"?

Where did you buy your Engrish degree? At Costco?

TIC

 

[one.of.a.kind]

Is there a full moon out?

 

[nobody123]

Thank You Founding Father For The EXCEPTIONAL First Amendment

Pssst. Dude? I know it's hard to tell with Harper in power and all, but we're in Canada.

 

[Perry Mason]

Would that perhaps be "no rights of a member of the public are affected"?

Yep!

But I certainly never claimed to have a degree in Engrish!

And as for the other nonsense here, I have neither the time nor inclination to argue with fools.

Perry

 

[The Fruity Hare]

Yep!

But I certainly never claimed to have a degree in Engrish!

Perry

And I am certain that you realized that word was intentionally spelled that way, alluding to your slight grammar mistake.

And the smiley face was added to show that it was meant as a tongue in cheek post. TIC

 

[Perry Mason]

And I am certain that you realized that word was intentionally spelled that way, alluding to your slight grammar mistake.

Yes... my other remarks were not intended for you... :thumb:

Perry

 

[IM469]

If you offered $100,000 in your will to some guy on condition that he publicly urinate on Prime Minister Harper, you think that would stand up in court for a millisecond? Same deal with racism.

So they would give my willed assets to someone who shook his hand ? What if I left to someone who happens to be the same guy who peed on Harper ? Actually either way, I don't follow how this it is relevant to this case.

I write a will to determine the management and distribution of my assets after my death. Only in the event of no will or that the existing will was written when I was drugged, threatened or mentally incapacitated should the state step in to determine distribution of my estate. This will was an accurate representation of his mindset and reflected his behaviour over several years. If the state is going to step in to determine what they think is fair - you might as well not write a will.

An interesting point that I'm not sure people are aware here: 'What makes this week’s ruling even more extraordinary is that Mr. Spence didn’t explicitly disinherit his daughter on racial grounds in his will; he merely said he chose not to leave her his estate because the two had stopped communicating, which was objectively true.'

It is a dangerous precedent to ignore a valid will - I hope there will be an appeal.

 

[mandrill]

So they would give my willed assets to someone who shook his hand ? What if I left to someone who happens to be the same guy who peed on Harper ? Actually either way, I don't follow how this it is relevant to this case.

I write a will to determine the management and distribution of my assets after my death. Only in the event of no will or that the existing will was written when I was drugged, threatened or mentally incapacitated should the state step in to determine distribution of my estate. This will was an accurate representation of his mindset and reflected his behaviour over several years. If the state is going to step in to determine what they think is fair - you might as well not write a will.

An interesting point that I'm not sure people are aware here: 'What makes this week’s ruling even more extraordinary is that Mr. Spence didn’t explicitly disinherit his daughter on racial grounds in his will; he merely said he chose not to leave her his estate because the two had stopped communicating, which was objectively true.'

It is a dangerous precedent to ignore a valid will - I hope there will be an appeal.

Which is an interesting point. I suspect what made the judge go behind the face of the will in the instant case is that it was so very, very obvious that the disinheriting was done for racist reasons. The judge jumped from saying "The will reads: I disinherit my whitey-fucking daughter because she had a child with a goddam white man" to saying "There was no racist reason on the face of the will, but the only possible explanation on the surrounding facts is that the testator was a bigot from hell."

That would be an interesting point of appeal.

 

[red]

Yes... my other remarks were not intended for you... :thumb:

Perry

Chill out agent p.

It's not like you to get upset- you ok?

 

[Perry Mason]

Chill out agent p.

It's not like you to get upset- you ok?

I am fine, thanks... what makes you think I am/was upset?

Just clarifying for TFH something that obviously got misconstrued by one of us... :thumb:

Certainly not upset by an immature child with a ridiculous poker hand!

And glad to see you up and running again... stay that way!

Perry

 

[red]

))) h

I am fine, thanks... what makes you think I am/was upset?

Just clarifying for TFH something that obviously got misconstrued by one of us... :thumb:

Certainly not upset by an immature child with a ridiculous poker hand!

And glad to see you up and running again... stay that way!

Perry

Good- glad to hear it. Remember you always have the surprise witness.

And thx for good wishes- I am getting stronger everyday, watching a lot of day time tv, ( I am developing a thing for judge mablean

 

[one.of.a.kind]

I am fine, thanks... what makes you think I am/was upset?

Just clarifying for TFH something that obviously got misconstrued by one of us... :thumb:

Certainly not upset by an immature child with a ridiculous poker hand!

Perry

Must be the tarnished image. Self appointed grammar, well, we all know now. Carry on.

 

[icespot]

This ruling is just as disgusting as the man himself imho.

A racist jerk? Yes

Is that his right? Absolutely.

Does this judge even have any legal ground to do this?

Thank You Founding Father For The EXCEPTIONAL First Amendment

You mean founding Fathers because more than one signed. The US Constitution and Bill of rights are wonderful documents. However, they don't prevent stupidity from Judges and Ruling politicians.

Because there is nothing more retarded than the Patriot Act.....

 

[HentaiRanger]

Where does a two-bit jerk get off interfering in the way a person distributes their estate just because a few years ago some ass-hole appointed him to the bench as a judge. This judge didn't earn a single penny of the guy's estate yet he gets to decide how it will be distributed. If he wants the daughter to have $200,000 then he should take it out of his own bank account & give it to her.

I have a similar problem, a son from a first marriage that sided with his mother over some stupid thing 25 years ago and told me he didn't want anything more to do with me, hasn't spoken to me for those 25 years yet I know as soon as I die he will be there with his hand out demanding what is "rightfully" his. And now I have a stupid jerk sitting on a court bench who thinks that he has the right to over-rule what I decide to do with my estate. What a pompous ass.

just spend or.give every last cent away before you die or rack uo debt .

 

[johnhenrygalt]

I have a big problem with this, the judge has made his decision based on "public policy", what right does a judge have to determine what public policy is?

The authority of judges to decide upon matters of law is as old as civilization itself. The rule that private legal documents (wills, contracts) will not be enforced by a court if they contravene public policy has been well-established for centuries.

I don't think the government or the courts should have the right to interfere in someone's private finances even if a guy wants to leave his fortune to a hooker and leave nothing to his wife and kids.

Generally speaking, during one's lifetime one can do whatever one wants with one's money (as long as it really is the guy's money and not marital property). If you want to give your money to a neo-nazi group or a hooker, do it when you're alive. Once you're dead, the law governing estates takes over - this is as old as the common law itself.

 

[johnhenrygalt]

It is a dangerous precedent to ignore a valid will - I hope there will be an appeal.

That's begging the question.