Jon Stewart
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For lack of words - smarmy can be defined by viewing Fox news. Their smarmy attitude towards any story that highlights racist behavior can only be tolerated by the white racists or your country bumpkin whose brain has been melted by excessive exposure to cow manure.
As for brilliant - you could have a point - is that hard to make fun of the Fox News network ? You are suppose to just suck up the crap that they shovel out - not actually evaluate it.
And we wonder why there is such a polarization of political opinion. The Liberals put Stewart up on a pedestal like what he says is gospel. But they forget one very important thing - he's a comedian. He's not a political commentator who uses investigative reporting and factual evidence to back up his comments. He's a hit and run artist.
There are so many problems with what he says I don't even know where to begin. First he portrays Michael Brown as having surrendered unarmed with his hands in the air. Second he criticizes the Ferguson police for failing to lay out the full facts of the incident. Does he not realize that by doing this it compromises the ongoing investigation? Then he rants on about how hard it is for blacks in America today. They can't catch a cab yada yada. Well here's a newsflash for you Jon - the vast majority of cab drivers in NYC are visible minorities! How is that a race issue? He even has the gall to say that Obama and black civil rights leaders are convening on a regular basis in an attempt to tackle the issue of black on black crime. Total horseshit. He meets with them to talk about increasing minimum wages, reforming criminal justice (read making it harder to lock up black criminals), gun control, voting rights and other liberal talking points without tackling the core issues - the breakdown of the family unit, the lack of respect for authority, the lack of personal responsibility and the 30% dropout rate from high school.
There are so many problems with what he says I don't even know where to begin. First he portrays Michael Brown as having surrendered unarmed with his hands in the air. Second he criticizes the Ferguson police for failing to lay out the full facts of the incident. Does he not realize that by doing this it compromises the ongoing investigation? Then he rants on about how hard it is for blacks in America today. They can't catch a cab yada yada. Well here's a newsflash for you Jon - the vast majority of cab drivers in NYC are visible minorities! How is that a race issue? He even has the gall to say that Obama and black civil rights leaders are convening on a regular basis in an attempt to tackle the issue of black on black crime. Total horseshit. He meets with them to talk about increasing minimum wages, reforming criminal justice (read making it harder to lock up black criminals), gun control, voting rights and other liberal talking points without tackling the core issues - the breakdown of the family unit, the lack of respect for authority, the lack of personal responsibility and the 30% dropout rate from high school.
Mr. Douglas, I take exception. If I may:
The rant by Stewart doesn't imply that Michael Brown's hands were in the air (although they may have been and the witness says they were), Stewart implies that a white man carrying a gun can show that to a police officer by lifting his shirt whereas a black man who does the same is likely not going to be treated the same way in the same circumstance. Your attitude of "yada yada" with regard to the very real difficulties of being black in the US is not only insensitive, naive and very poorly informed, it's probably racist in itself. As for your dismissal of all the actions that are being taken against black on black crime not really an argument just your refusal to face the facts. Finally, with regard to your ideas of the "core issues", if lack of respect for authority means failure to go quietly when a white police officer fatally shoots an unarmed black teen who was walking in the road, then count me guilty too. If you were faced with the likelihood of higher unemployment than your white counterparts, greater likelihood of incarceration, lower life expectancy, etc. then you may also experience breakdown of your family unit. And with all that going on, what's the point of staying in high school?
Respectfully,
Max
I brace myself for the taser - priceless.
However let's look at the big picture - where's Michelle Bachmann?! I'm deeply smitten with her and want her to be my snugglepooh. She needs a big spicy salsice and I'd me more than thrilled to be her pizza guy. After a weekend with the cazzone, she'd be a new woman - this would be a thing of the past.
However let's look at the big picture - where's Michelle Bachmann?! I'm deeply smitten with her and want her to be my snugglepooh. She needs a big spicy salsice and I'd me more than thrilled to be her pizza guy. After a weekend with the cazzone, she'd be a new woman - this would be a thing of the past.
Sometimes the truth is so sad that only comedians will say it. Besides, being a political commentator and a comedian is not mutually exclusive. If anything, you need brains to be good at either.
Who says John Stewart isn't a political commentator. Who says Bill maher or George Carlin or Neil degrasse Tyson or Seth Myer aren't political commentators. If u don't get what they're saying and how they're saying it YOU'RE part of the tragedy they're talking about.
If you're going to be a responsible political commentator you have to look at both sides of the issue. Many of you have accused Fox News in the past of using 'snippets' to make their argument. Stewart is the King of Snippets.
The tragedy here is that many (usually younger folks) take Stewart's voice as the gospel and formulate their political opinions accordingly. There is no doubt he is entertaining thus helping to make a convincing case about how stupid conservatives and Fox News are. But he does so with an agenda and in many cases a misrepresentation of the facts. There are far more credible Liberal commentators out there that don't seem to get their voices heard nearly enough.
The tragedy here is that many (usually younger folks) take Stewart's voice as the gospel and formulate their political opinions accordingly. There is no doubt he is entertaining thus helping to make a convincing case about how stupid conservatives and Fox News are. But he does so with an agenda and in many cases a misrepresentation of the facts. There are far more credible Liberal commentators out there that don't seem to get their voices heard nearly enough.
Oh I do have an idea and am far more informed than the vast majority of the citizenry, including you.
Your exception is noted and I thank you for taking the time to put forth a coherent argument that counters what I say. Unlike many of the others on here who just name call. I'm not claiming that its not tough for black people in America. What I am saying is that their relationship with police is but a small part of a much broader issue. Which I won't go into here because I'd have to write an essay.
I'd like to ask you this question. If you are walking down the middle of the street and a cop comes up behind you and says get on the sidewalk, what do you do? Do you tell him to go to hell and then proceed to punch him and reach for his gun? I know what I'd do - I listen. Even if I am offended by the way they treat me.
I think Jon Stewart is entertaining. Just like Bill Maher. They are political satirists. But there is a message of course. Isn't his point that certain of the media portray a one sided view?
As for Bill O'Reilly. I can accept parts of him, but other parts are plain bullshit.
On a different subject matter, this author had his review of Bill O'Reilly's Killing Kennedy book censored by Amazon to the amazement of even lone-assassin advocates like David Von Pein, who thinks Krusch was entitled to his free speech rights.
As for Bill O'Reilly. I can accept parts of him, but other parts are plain bullshit.
On a different subject matter, this author had his review of Bill O'Reilly's Killing Kennedy book censored by Amazon to the amazement of even lone-assassin advocates like David Von Pein, who thinks Krusch was entitled to his free speech rights.
I feel like you are taking the wrong message away from this segment. He is saying that the pundits are wrong for saying that race is no longer an issue in the US and should no longer be discussed because more than just the particular case of Ferguson, blacks in America face more hostile attitudes and difficulties even accounting for economic class. Surely you don't disagree with that regardless of your personal politics?
