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boodog

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John Tory finds himself under attack on unexpected front: on financial management … and from the left

John Tory found himself under attack on a most unexpected front Thursday: on financial management, and from the left.

The former corporate CEO — who won office by promising a business-like approach at city hall — had won early left-wing praise this week for his first budget, which spends $75-million in new money on things like transit and shelters without raising property taxes beyond the rate of inflation.

But on Thursday, several member of council’s left-wing caucus attacked where they could: On the $200-million line of credit that the provincial government offered the city in lieu of Mr. Tory’s hoped-for cash bailout.

“With Mayor Ford all the budgets brought to council were balanced. I didn’t agree with them, but they were balanced,” said Councillor Gord Perks, who called the Tory approach “risky,” and likened it to a homeowner using a line of credit to pay off a mortgage.:Eek:

“This is not a smart move … By relying on a loan instead of fixing the problem either with increased taxes or decreased services, what this means is we’re going to have to suffer through this punch every year.”

Councillor Janet Davis, another leftist, suggested an extra 3% property tax hike could fill the gap, but admitted there may not be an appetite for that at city council.

“I’m waiting to see what this plan B is. If it’s going to include cuts, or service reductions, I know that I will not be happy with that and many councillors won’t,” she said.

Mr. Tory defended the loan, and assured Torontonians they can trust his fiscal judgment.:frusty:

“I believe it is entirely financially responsible to take a relatively small, in fact a tiny portion of the budget, and end up having that as a loan for this year,” said Mr. Tory on Thursday. “It allows us to have a balanced budget :rolleyes:and it allows us to go ahead with these investments, which I think are urgent.”

The predicament can be traced back to a decision by the provincial Liberals to gradually pull funding that the city used for housing. In 2015, that means a loss of $86-million in a $9.9-billion budget.

Officials in both the mayor’s office and the city manager’s have been working for weeks with provincial counterparts, hoping to convince them to reinstate the funding. The argument has long been that Toronto, a large cosmopolitan city, has a concentration of issues around housing and poverty that other municipalities in the province simply do not face.

The Ontario government, never keen to be seen to favour Toronto, instead offered a line of credit, secured against property and with interest. Sources indicate that may still result in a $25-million hole this year because of interest and principal payments.

City manager Joe Pennachetti said the city has been given a provincial loan before, although he conceded the arrangement is not ideal. John Campbell, vice chair of the budget committee, called the loan “insulting” because of the city’s special needs. “Toronto is different,” agreed Mr. Tory.

From the right on Thursday, Councillor Rob Ford, meanwhile, criticized rising user fees, particularly around garbage rates. He pointed to the extra revenue collected last year from the land transfer tax as a simple way to plug the budget (although this, too, would be one-time funding which he had always argued against using as mayor).

Deputy Mayor Denzil Minnan-Wong noted what he called the “unholy alliance” between NDP stalwarts at city hall and the right-wing former mayor.

“I think the budget committee has got some real challenges ahead of it and it remains to be seen what they’re going to recommend to council,” said Mr. Minnan-Wong.

Mr. Tory said the city will “aggressively” look for the money in the budget to make up the difference.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/0...nt-on-financial-management-and-from-the-left/

Knew all along Toronto needs Emeritus Mayor Rob Ford to mentor the Rookie Mayor John Tory.
 

oldjones

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An interest-bearing tax-funded loan to the same taxpayers that put up the original cash is just a way to force the borrower-government to get honest and raise its own money. By taxes. We note that one of the items we'll have to pay for is the unbudgetted $86million extra cost of Robbo cancelling the Scarboro LRT to extend Ford Nation votes east of VicPark, by promising a vastly more expensive and still-to-be funded stump of a subway. The LRT money was already banked. FN's gas-plants.

We could of course prefer that the province's more progressive income and consumption taxes pay for necessary and desirable urban social services like roads, sewers, transit, minimal housing and such, rather than property taxes. But when you're dealing with an unthinking electorate like FN, crude manipulation seems necessary.
 

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John Tory finds himself under attack on unexpected front: on financial management … and from the left

John Tory found himself under attack on a most unexpected front Thursday: on financial management, and from the left.

The former corporate CEO — who won office by promising a business-like approach at city hall — had won early left-wing praise this week for his first budget, which spends $75-million in new money on things like transit and shelters without raising property taxes beyond the rate of inflation.

But on Thursday, several member of council’s left-wing caucus attacked where they could: On the $200-million line of credit that the provincial government offered the city in lieu of Mr. Tory’s hoped-for cash bailout.

“With Mayor Ford all the budgets brought to council were balanced. I didn’t agree with them, but they were balanced,” said Councillor Gord Perks, who called the Tory approach “risky,” and likened it to a homeowner using a line of credit to pay off a mortgage.:Eek:

“This is not a smart move … By relying on a loan instead of fixing the problem either with increased taxes or decreased services, what this means is we’re going to have to suffer through this punch every year.”

Councillor Janet Davis, another leftist, suggested an extra 3% property tax hike could fill the gap, but admitted there may not be an appetite for that at city council.

“I’m waiting to see what this plan B is. If it’s going to include cuts, or service reductions, I know that I will not be happy with that and many councillors won’t,” she said.

Mr. Tory defended the loan, and assured Torontonians they can trust his fiscal judgment.:frusty:

“I believe it is entirely financially responsible to take a relatively small, in fact a tiny portion of the budget, and end up having that as a loan for this year,” said Mr. Tory on Thursday. “It allows us to have a balanced budget :rolleyes:and it allows us to go ahead with these investments, which I think are urgent.”

The predicament can be traced back to a decision by the provincial Liberals to gradually pull funding that the city used for housing. In 2015, that means a loss of $86-million in a $9.9-billion budget.

Officials in both the mayor’s office and the city manager’s have been working for weeks with provincial counterparts, hoping to convince them to reinstate the funding. The argument has long been that Toronto, a large cosmopolitan city, has a concentration of issues around housing and poverty that other municipalities in the province simply do not face.

The Ontario government, never keen to be seen to favour Toronto, instead offered a line of credit, secured against property and with interest. Sources indicate that may still result in a $25-million hole this year because of interest and principal payments.

City manager Joe Pennachetti said the city has been given a provincial loan before, although he conceded the arrangement is not ideal. John Campbell, vice chair of the budget committee, called the loan “insulting” because of the city’s special needs. “Toronto is different,” agreed Mr. Tory.

From the right on Thursday, Councillor Rob Ford, meanwhile, criticized rising user fees, particularly around garbage rates. He pointed to the extra revenue collected last year from the land transfer tax as a simple way to plug the budget (although this, too, would be one-time funding which he had always argued against using as mayor).

Deputy Mayor Denzil Minnan-Wong noted what he called the “unholy alliance” between NDP stalwarts at city hall and the right-wing former mayor.

“I think the budget committee has got some real challenges ahead of it and it remains to be seen what they’re going to recommend to council,” said Mr. Minnan-Wong.

Mr. Tory said the city will “aggressively” look for the money in the budget to make up the difference.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/0...nt-on-financial-management-and-from-the-left/

Knew all along Toronto needs Emeritus Mayor Rob Ford to mentor the Rookie Mayor John Tory.
The solution would be to toll the DVP, Lakeshore, and Gardiner. Just as the people that use the TTC should be paying for improvements (in the form of fare increases), so too should the drivers of cars and trucks have to pay for the repairs to city-run highways they use.
 

boodog

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The solution would be to toll the DVP, Lakeshore, and Gardiner. Just as the people that use the TTC should be paying for improvements (in the form of fare increases), so too should the drivers of cars and trucks have to pay for the repairs to city-run highways they use.
Even you are able to come up with the smart solution. Why not John Tory?

Are you sure you are not David Miller?

Btw be careful John Tory may, again, have someone dress as robber to make fun at your "highway Robbery" DVP toll.

Of course he might also flip-flop to support your idea too.
 

cdnsimon

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Even you are able to come up with the smart solution. Why not John Tory?

Are you sure you are not David Miller?

Btw be careful John Tory may, again, have someone dress as robber to make fun at your "highway Robbery" DVP toll.

Of course he might also flip-flop to support your idea too.
Not everyone that suggests a toll is David Miller or Sarah Thomson or Doug Holyday or Adam Vaughn or etc.

If he makes fun of my idea, flip-flops, or does something else - it's still better than saying you're for the poor and the people in general, but never face charges for admitted drug use, drinking and driving, discrimination (sexual and ethnic), want to reduce public services (like libraries, etc.), or socialize with the criminal underbelly and support the police that bust those guys. It takes a special person to play both the drug dealers and police to further your own interests. That award is only held by Rob Ford.
 

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If Gord Perks and Rob Ford are against it it must be grounded in common sense.
 

Anbarandy

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If Gord Perks and Rob Ford are against it it must be grounded in common sense.
Not very 'common-sensible' in addition to being very risky to pay for ordinary, everyday operating expenses by incurring debt obligations. Basically shuffling off the payment of 'living expenses' onto future years and possibly generations.

Kicking the can funding and finance 101.

Now on the other hand, if the great underhanded one had actually believed in his campaign promises and pledges, his sleight of hand, unbalanced budget of 2015 would never have occurred.

From Tory's insincere excuses of, "Egads, I had no idea that the TTC was underfunded" to his, 'I just got some horrifying news: it's the province's fault', his sudden dawning realizations attempt to self-portray himself as basically a credible yet wholly clueless schmuck.

Formula for a successful campaign:

1) Promise and pledge all that ye want irrespective of any realistic funding thereof.

2) Once firmly ensconced in power, play the 'clueless' and 'blame others' cards.

3) Throw in 'unfunded' goodies to mollify the masses.

4) Let future governments answer to and future taxpayers pay for your broken promises, pledges and unfunded 'goodies.

5) Wash, rinse and dry.

6) Repeat cycle.




"I'm a politician baby, so why won't you believe me."
 
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boodog

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Attacked from both extremes means he is likely doing something appropriate.
If you think inside the basketcase yes John Tory must be doing something very appropriate to "brain-dead" you to believe an budget with $86 m hole is a balanced budget.
 
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