John Schools..

Articles like this make my blood boil a bit. Of course there are examples of abuse and hard luck stories in this profession, but you may have to look at the bigger picture.

1. America is a sexually oppressed Christian right wing country. When its more acceptable to show murder and gore above a woman's breast? I say repressed.

2. Labeling John's as sex offenders and categorizing them same way a pedophile is, is wrong and misplaced.

3. Anyone show a correlation in these markets between incidents of rape vs. prostitution? Suppressing an outlet for men to release their sexual appetite can only do more harm then good. Studies have shown it's a biochemical need for humans to have sex. And if a man, or a woman are not getting their satisfaction from their partners where are they to go? And don't say masturbation, it does not always do the trick.

I say legalize it. Regulate it. Tax it. And have a safer industry for all those involved. If someone knows how to start a poll on Terb? I'd be real interested on how many SP's were forced into it? How many do it willingly?
 
This says it all:

Set in a church in Nashville, Tennessee, the John School is led by former prostitutes, health experts, psychologists and law enforcement officers who talk to -- and at times berate -- the men about the risks of hiring a prostitute.

The biggest risk, Law enforcement waiting behind the curtain like a bogeyman enforcing needless laws driven by puritanical views.
 
Kenwoody said:
Articles like this make my blood boil a bit. Of course there are examples of abuse and hard luck stories in this profession, but you may have to look at the bigger picture.

1. America is a sexually oppressed Christian right wing country. When its more acceptable to show murder and gore above a woman's breast? I say repressed.

There are john schools in Toronto too.


Kenwoody said:
2. Labeling John's as sex offenders and categorizing them same way a pedophile is, is wrong and misplaced.

There is no legislation to do this, nor is it likely to ever pass. A sex offense is a crime involving lack of consent; where prostitution is illegal, it is an offense against public morality.

What was mentioned by the article was a question on a poll by a non-profit group.
 
WhaWhaWha said:
This says it all:

Set in a church in Nashville, Tennessee, the John School is led by former prostitutes, health experts, psychologists and law enforcement officers who talk to -- and at times berate -- the men about the risks of hiring a prostitute.

The biggest risk, Law enforcement waiting behind the curtain like a bogeyman enforcing needless laws driven by puritanical views.

Prostitution was actually legal or tolerated through the 18th and 19th centuries in the US. Consider the brothel districts of Manhattan and New Orleans, as well as the saloons in the Old West.

The prostitution laws date back to the early 1900's, when moralist crusaders campaigned against everything from drugs to booze (Prohibition). BTW, prior to this point, Coca-Cola actually had cocaine in it.
 
I like this part:

"...Some evidence suggests that John Schools are working..."

I'm sure lots more suggest it isn't.
 
ig-88 said:
There are john schools in Toronto too.

Well we all know Ontario and Toronto are wound way too tight. Are these John schools still active? I thought it was only an experiment. Is it not only for John's that solicit street prostitutes? Cause I don't see too many street pro's lately.
 
With todays technology, I see little to no need for street action. Seems desperate and dangerous by comparison. That's where the crime and mishaps are at greatest risk. I can see why LE steps in there. But why concern themselves with private transactions performed out of viewof public eyes?
 
Wait a minute, you mean at John Schools they do not make you fuck till you do it right?????:confused:
 
Kenwoody said:
Articles like this make my blood boil a bit. Of course there are examples of abuse and hard luck stories in this profession, but you may have to look at the bigger picture.

1. America is a sexually oppressed Christian right wing country. When its more acceptable to show murder and gore above a woman's breast? I say repressed.

2. Labeling John's as sex offenders and categorizing them same way a pedophile is, is wrong and misplaced.

3. Anyone show a correlation in these markets between incidents of rape vs. prostitution? Suppressing an outlet for men to release their sexual appetite can only do more harm then good. Studies have shown it's a biochemical need for humans to have sex. And if a man, or a woman are not getting their satisfaction from their partners where are they to go? And don't say masturbation, it does not always do the trick.

I say legalize it. Regulate it. Tax it. And have a safer industry for all those involved. If someone knows how to start a poll on Terb? I'd be real interested on how many SP's were forced into it? How many do it willingly?

I agree with all of this, except I'd say the US is a center right country with annoying puritan tendencies.

OTB
 
Ceiling Cat said:
Wait a minute, you mean at John Schools they do not make you fuck till you do it right?:confused:
I like the way you think:

John School Course Cirriculum.

Negotiating Fees 101: A beginners guide to understanding the market to determine fees you should expect to pay for the half hour, the hour, multiple hours, overnights, and weekend retreats and the services it should include.

YMMV 201: Not all service providers and clients are the same. Find out how to ensure noone is having a batter time than you.

Bait and Switch 102: How to avoid booking with a supposed beauty and commiting to a substitute beast.

MPOS 303: Advanced course. Did you know there are 73 known positions? Why settle for just 'Missionary'? OK, make that 74.
 
onthebottom said:
I agree with all of this, except I'd say the US is a center right country with annoying puritan tendencies.

OTB

I disagree with the use of the term "puritan" to describe the US, as if the US is following some edict from the Mayflower. :confused: This doesn't seem to jive with the history.

Of course, the history is open to interpretation, but there were numerous laws made in the early 20th century to combat vices such as drugs, gambling, prostitution, etc. I would theorize that these laws were enacted to:

a) gain political power, of course
b) make life difficult for immigrants (who were coming in waves at the time)
c) prevent interracial sex/white slavery
 
WhaWhaWha said:
With todays technology, I see little to no need for street action. Seems desperate and dangerous by comparison. That's where the crime and mishaps are at greatest risk. I can see why LE steps in there. But why concern themselves with private transactions performed out of viewof public eyes?

John schools are pretty much always a result of street stings performed by the police. I don't see how this article points to anything different.

And of course, if you wave a nice, thick juicy steak around, the dogs will come crawling out of the woodwork.