Jesus Christ
- Thread starter danmand
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This song is a load of craps. It is still a good song
to broadcast though if it makes people believe it was
the rich who killed Jesus because he wanted them to give
away their wealth to the poor. The world will be a much
better place if only all the affluent in the Christian world
are to be suckered by Jesus.
to broadcast though if it makes people believe it was
the rich who killed Jesus because he wanted them to give
away their wealth to the poor. The world will be a much
better place if only all the affluent in the Christian world
are to be suckered by Jesus.
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Jesus is a fictional character. You can believe whatever you want about him. Just like Pippi Longstocking or Anne from Green Gables.
The real Jesus is lost in history. I wouldn't call him
a fictional character. Non-existence of Jesus can be
inferred from Edward Gibbon's account of the historicity
of Jesus in 'Decline and Fall of Roman Empire' but he
didn't say outright Jesus was fictional. I think just saying
nothing about Jesus was known to Roman historians
in the 1st century is a more defensible position.
a fictional character. Non-existence of Jesus can be
inferred from Edward Gibbon's account of the historicity
of Jesus in 'Decline and Fall of Roman Empire' but he
didn't say outright Jesus was fictional. I think just saying
nothing about Jesus was known to Roman historians
in the 1st century is a more defensible position.
Nero was an evil dude but not incompetent enough for Thersites the Historian to relegate him to "Tiber fish bait" like Commodus.
In his early years, he ruled fairly but his paranoia was eating away at him. Once he had his mother killed, all bets were off. At that time a permanent rift developed between the Jews and the new sub-sect the Christians. James, brother of Jesus was executed in Jerusalem and Peter went into exile in Rome. He tried to follow Jesus's order that Christianity should remain within Judaism but Paul and his followers would have none of it. It's not inconceivable that the Great Fire of Rome in 64 AD was started by a late night street fight between the two sects. That Nero played the harp while Rome burned is fake news, but he may have been justified in targeting the Christians.
The Jews didn't fare much better. They rebelled against Nero and got sacked. Interesting how history views Masada: to the Jews it was a brave last stand, to the Romans it was just another siege. The victory was commemorated by the Arch of Titus which stands at the south end of the Roman Forum. The new Emperor Vespasian granted clemency to the Jews, Judea as a province of Rome survived.
In his early years, he ruled fairly but his paranoia was eating away at him. Once he had his mother killed, all bets were off. At that time a permanent rift developed between the Jews and the new sub-sect the Christians. James, brother of Jesus was executed in Jerusalem and Peter went into exile in Rome. He tried to follow Jesus's order that Christianity should remain within Judaism but Paul and his followers would have none of it. It's not inconceivable that the Great Fire of Rome in 64 AD was started by a late night street fight between the two sects. That Nero played the harp while Rome burned is fake news, but he may have been justified in targeting the Christians.
The Jews didn't fare much better. They rebelled against Nero and got sacked. Interesting how history views Masada: to the Jews it was a brave last stand, to the Romans it was just another siege. The victory was commemorated by the Arch of Titus which stands at the south end of the Roman Forum. The new Emperor Vespasian granted clemency to the Jews, Judea as a province of Rome survived.
Neither Tacitus nor Flavius Josephus thought he was fictional, and they both lived around the same time as Christ. The rabbis who compiled the Talmud didn't think he was fictional either even though they hated him.
