Jane Fonda

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Can anyone tell me if the following is true? I got this in my e-mail and wonder if it is just "urban myth", or real... If it is true it is certainly shocking....

KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR:

This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.

From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action." His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received, different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
 
So her workout videos, inspiring millions of women to get into better shape, don't cancel out the treason? :p
 
*ucking

BITCH

Or is that too subtle?

Perhaps POTUS should find her a cage in Cuba, she meets my definition of an enemy combatant.

OTB
 
Okay - Jane I can do without - however, Peter Fonda in Easy Rider...well...can a positive cancel out a serious negative?
 
Re: Read the whole article that Sheik linked.

Cool Dude said:
Much of it is true. Some is not. As for her being a *ucking bitch OTB; not quite. She is a fucking traitorous bitch!

I stand humbly corrected.

OTB
 
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harleycharley said:
This crap about Jane Fonda from a country that doesnt even believe its necessary to count the number of civilians its killed when it invades a soverein country. A country that is at this moment torturing prisoners in an occupied cornero f Cuba where they don't need to answer for the way they treat enemy combatants..... A country who's president doesn't forbids the media coverage of teh return of its own dead soldiers.

I say this is about as real as the story of the woman who dried off her baby after a bath in the microwave oven.....

HC down in the pro traitor camp.

OTB
 
Many thanks Sheik for verifying the story....

Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't this fall into "treason", and didn't they have the death penalty for treason?
 
She was/is just ignorant fool.

Living in a fantasy world where wars can be avoided.

She just didn’t put the soldiers actions in the context of a brutal world. Where might makes right and the victors write the history.

She should stick to workout videos.
 
demecleze said:
She was/is just ignorant fool.

Living in a fantasy world where wars can be avoided.

She just didn’t put the soldiers actions in the context of a brutal world. Where might makes right and the victors write the history.

She should stick to workout videos.

And the US was victorious in Viet Nam? Viet Nam won its War of Independence. Don't I remember the USA having one of those? Sorry, but Jane was on the right side then, and by your own words, she's on the right side now.
And now's a long time after the events. Time to move on.
 
Sadly a lot of Hollywood celebrities have completely lost touch with reality, they readily claim all the fame, fortune and luxury that America provides for them but when it comes time support their country in war they not only do not do this but they turn into traitors. Martin Sheen was a good example of this (maybe the dumb fuck thought the 'West Wing' was for real)..
Some celebrities back their country but most dont!!
 
Sometimes you will be supporting your COUNTRY by working against a stupid government.

The united states constitution protects the rights of the individual, does not require blind and deaf allegiance to the government.
 
danmand said:
Sometimes you will be supporting your COUNTRY by working against a stupid government.

The united states constitution protects the rights of the individual, does not require blind and deaf allegiance to the government.

No one would argue her right to protest, but you don't go over to the enemy and serve their propaganda interestests to do it. You know what, ask John McCain what he thinks.....

OTB
 
bbking said:
...accepts her apologies.
...which came when she figured out that, uh oh, this could be troublesome for my career.
 
Hanoi Jane...... indeed , how could we forget.

Opposing the government's policies is one thing, but for the action and crap that came from her back then, she was the pioneer of a typical Farking Asshat .



demecleze said:
She was/is just ignorant fool.

Agree.
 
All this vitriol poured on a 67 yer old actress. An a c t r e s s ! fer gosh sakes! A cute babe with screen presence. Right or wrong—and as demecleze says: history proves she was right, though the feelings she wounded saying it clearly still haven't healed—she wasn't some statesman or soldier, she wasn't even an ordinary average schmo. She was a person who pretends she's someone else for money. Who would believe her/be bothered by her except the gullible? Traitor my foot! What's the word for Nixon suddenly popping up in Beijing then, being all luvy-duvy with those same evil commie hyena's whose very existance he used to deny?
 
oldjones said:
All this vitriol poured on a 67 yer old actress. Traitor my foot! What's the word for Nixon suddenly popping up in Beijing then, being all luvy-duvy with those same evil commie hyena's whose very existance he used to deny?


Actress or not I think you are forgeting the point that her actions
led to the torture of her own countrymen.

If that is not being a traitor I don't what is.

I do believe in apologies , however if you commit a crime today I still think you will be punished by law even if you do apologize .
Since when did apologizing absolve you of criminal responsibilty.