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Jagmeet Singh says link exists between anti-maskers and far-right extremism

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There is no one "REAL" Neo-Nazi flag.
The Sun Cross is used by lots of white supremacists. A Big-ASS Suncross flag is going to be assumed Neo Nazi or White supremacist until proven otherwise.
Which should be REALLY easy to do because anyone flying a flag like that has had to have people say "why are you flying a neoNazi flag?" a lot and so probably has a response all ready explaining the symbolism.
The page shows 5 Cross flags and like 20 others discussing history and who used them
The flag in news story does not look like any of them (wrong symbol & wrong colours)
 

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The page shows 5 Cross flags and like 20 others discussing history and who used them
The flag in news story does not look like any of them (wrong symbol & wrong colours)
It's exactly the same symbol, Teej. And it's exactly the same colours, not in the same arrangement.

qt-z-sc2.gif = the neo Nazi flag in the article on neo Nazi flags.

BB1gi.jpg = the flag carried by the neo Nazi in SK. Note EXACTLY THE SAME SYMBOL. Note EXACTLY THE SAME COLOURS IN A DIFFERENT ARRANGEMENT.

If that fuck is not a neo nazi, it's an extremely untoward coincidence.
 

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The page shows 5 Cross flags and like 20 others discussing history and who used them
The flag in news story does not look like any of them (wrong symbol & wrong colours)
It's the right symbol, dude, that's a suncross.
Why you think an internet post from 3 years ago is the be-all and end-all of current far right symbols escapes me.

But like I said, if it isn't, the group whose symbol it is will come out and explain their symbolism super quickly.
 
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It's the right symbol, dude, that's a suncross.
Why you think an internet post from 3 years ago is the be-all and end-all of current far right symbols escapes me.

But like I said, if it isn't, the group whose symbol it is will come out and explain their symbolism super quickly.
It's exactly the same symbol.
 

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It's exactly the same symbol.
Yes. But the Sun Cross is used by other groups. (Not so much anymore because of the racist connotations.) So any group still flying it who isn't racist/white supremacist/neo Nazi is going to be very quick to explain why they still use the symbol and Tee Jay will have no trouble finding their explanation.
 

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Yes. But the Sun Cross is used by other groups. (Not so much anymore because of the racist connotations.) So any group still flying it who isn't racist/white supremacist/neo Nazi is going to be very quick to explain why they still use the symbol and Tee Jay will have no trouble finding their explanation.
I looked at the ADL list of white power symbols a while back and was astounded at how many historical symbols have been co-opted by hate groups.
 

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I looked at the ADL list of white power symbols a while back and was astounded at how many historical symbols have been co-opted by hate groups.
It's not that surprising. You are still drawing from a shared cultural heritage.
More importantly, the cult of "a glorious past that we will birth again" is a major component of fascism in its various strains. So you are going to go back and grab a historical symbol for that.
 

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It’s pretty common and it’s apears more so with people who identify as being progressive or woke for them to often stoop to personal attacks or degrading others people who have different opinions. It’s a sad attempt to discredit their argument when they cannot argue with facts.

The true of the matter is being a bigot asshole doesn’t mean their opinion about masks are wrong.

it’s nearly impossible to prove Masks actually help prevent the spread of Covid. They probably help, but to what degree well never know cause there are to many other factors. On the flip side we have far higher covid numbers with mask requirements in place then when we didn’t.

No matter how much anyone tries, someone being whateverphobic you want to call them doesn’t change the math, nor does it prove them wrong.
 

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It’s pretty common and it’s apears more so with people who identify as being progressive or woke for them to often stoop to personal attacks or degrading others people who have different opinions. It’s a sad attempt to discredit their argument when they cannot argue with facts.

The true of the matter is being a bigot asshole doesn’t mean their opinion about masks are wrong.

it’s nearly impossible to prove Masks actually help prevent the spread of Covid. They probably help, but to what degree well never know cause there are to many other factors. On the flip side we have far higher covid numbers with mask requirements in place then when we didn’t.

No matter how much anyone tries, someone being whateverphobic you want to call them doesn’t change the math, nor does it prove them wrong.
Seriously, guy?!

You reject pretty much any and all reputable medical opinion with that post. Leaving aside your other comments, which suggest that you're not exactly unbiased on this issue.
 

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Seriously, guy?!

You reject pretty much any and all reputable medical opinion with that post. Leaving aside your other comments, which suggest that you're not exactly unbiased on this issue.
What reputable medical opinion concluded that people opposed to masks are far right extremest?

Can you share the URL, please and thanks.
 

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The true of the matter is being a bigot asshole doesn’t mean their opinion about masks are wrong.
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Right. Their views on masks aren't wrong because they are racists, they are wrong because of the science.

But there is a noticeable overlap between the two groups due to the factors that play into both pathologies.
 
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Capitalism isn’t a dirty word but it is the base of all evil in the world today..
I know, I know .... The only reason Socialism has never worked is because the right guy hasn't been in charge .

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I guess you put out for free ( for the good of your brothers and sisters ) and file your GST and income taxes on time ?
 
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Right. Their views on masks aren't wrong because they are racists, they are wrong because of the science.

But there is a noticeable overlap between the two groups due to the factors that play into both pathologies.
Other then the car, which one of these people are overlapping racists & anti-maskers.


ps saying all the white one is an acceptable answer, right?
 
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The third guy from the left and the one with the hat.


Seriously, what a dumb question.
I literally just argued that people who can’t discuss an issue with facts, resort to name calling. Saying things like, that’s stupid.

Thanks for proving my point.
 
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He also is the doofus who introduced acts such as allowing people to ride a motorcycle without a helmet

Most of his political career is laughable and the fact he has 2 degrees (Western and York) throws the reputation of those schools into serious doubt

Maybe there is a link between anti-maskers and people who ride a motorcycle without a helmet. They both refuse protection...
 
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Maybe there is a link between anti-maskers and people who ride a motorcycle without a helmet. They both refuse protection...
It is kinda ironic though

He wishes to not wear a helmet while riding because he says his religion requires he wear his ceremonial head piece

And yet he complains when other people are rejecting vaccines for their religious beliefs




That is the problem with religions in general
Foolishness dressed up in the guise of piety


This week millions of Canadian children starved (I mean fasted) for Eid
Fasting is not healthy period
And for a child it is worse than an adult

But you know pointing out facts or science is (of course) racist
 
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