It's The End Of The World As We Know It

FatOne

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and I feel fine.
 

OddSox

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You mean these conservative fundy bible thumpers are using 'fuzzy numbers' too???

Perhaps our resident conservative 'fuzzy numbers expert' bottie can make some sense of their miscalculation?...:biggrin1:
You, sir, are acting like an idiot. Why are you still here anyway?
 

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You have to feel sorry for some of the people who got sucked into this. They showed a guy on the evening news who had spent his life savings on signs and billboards amounting to over $200,000, and standing with a group of people in Times Square while it ticked down to 6:00. And then nothing happened. He appeared absolutely stunned, but by the next day his faith had been restored, and he's still convinced the end will happen this year. God there are alot of bloody fools in this world.
 
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Raptor?

You mean DeMar DeRozan, or which Raptor are you referring to ?
LOL, All of them past and present! Raptor-Rapture doesn't matter that team is always gonna be awful!
 

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You are conflating a number of different things.
Do mainstream Christians believe in the Second Coming of Christ - clearly Yes.
Do we have any idea when that will be - clearly No.
Am I making any special plans other than trying to live my life the best I can as the flawed person I am - No.
Do mainstream Christians believe in the Rapture, et al - No.

The Rapture and similar "stuff" is part of Dispensationalism, a mid-nineteenth century concept popularized by John Nelson Darby a wayward onetime Priest of the Church of Ireland who after "going off the rails" became one of the leading members of the Plymouth Brethren in England. While in the U.K. he was never more than a highly peculiar non-conformist dissenter. His theology became very influential among evangelical Protestant Denominations in the U.S. First through James Inglis magazine Waymarks in the Wilderness and far more importantly though Cyrus Scofield's Reference Bible of the early twentieth century (ironically published by Oxford University Press).
I used the term "mainstream" in error...I was referring to the thousands of evangelicals, not the traditional Christian denominations. So yes, I agree that the old line denominations generally do not believe in all of this. But the majority of bums in the pews in many parts of Canada, and in the US, are not in old-line denominations but in the evangelical groups, and most of them believe in some version of rapture, tribulation, millenium, and second coming of Christ. Of course there are many nuances in those beliefs...but they are much more widespread than many think. The old (now) "Left Behind" series of books were not just fantasy for lots of people.
 

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Doomsday prophet, followers ‘flabbergasted’ world didn’t end

Guess when it rains it pours on this bible thumping twit.....

Doomsday prophet, followers ‘flabbergasted’ world didn’t end

By Liz Goodwin Mon May 23, 11:25 am

It's hard to feel bad for someone whose doomsday predictions caused so much anxiety, but 89-year-old Harold Camping's recent admission that he's "flabbergasted" the world didn't end last weekend sounds somewhat pitiful.

"It has been a really tough weekend," Camping said Sunday, after emerging from his Alameda, California home for the first time to talk to a reporter from the San Francisco Chronicle. "I'm looking for answers ... But now I have nothing else to say," he said, adding that he would make a full statement today.


Camping's PR aide, Tom Evans, told the L.A. Times that the group is "disappointed" that 200 million true believers weren't lifted up to heaven on Saturday while everyone else suffered and eventually died as a series of earthquakes and famine destroyed the Earth. "You can imagine we're pretty disappointed, but the word of God is still true," Evans said. "We obviously went too far, and that's something we need to learn from." The group posted 2,000 billboards around the country warning of the rapture, while Camping--an uncertified fundamentalist minister--spread the word on his radio show.

Camping's Family Radio, which airs on 66 U.S. stations, has apparently rebranded itself quickly. Business Insider notes that the station's website has scrubbed all mentions of the Judgment Day. The site previously featured a countdown clock to the May 21 rapture on its homepage.


But the false prediction might not be so easily effaced from the lives of Camping's followers. The L.A. Times writes that Keith Bauer, a 38-year-old tractor trailer driver, took a road trip with his family to see the Grand Canyon before the world ended.

"With maxed-out credit cards and a growing mountain of bills, he said, the rapture would have been a relief," the paper writes.

But Bauer is not angry at Camping for his false prediction. "Worst-case scenario for me, I got to see the country," he told the paper. "If I should be angry at anybody, it should be me."

Robert Fitzpatrick, who spent $140,000 of his life savings to advertise the rapture in New York, said he was dumbfounded when life went on as usual Saturday.

"I do not understand why ...," he told Reuters while awaiting the event in Times Square. "I do not understand why nothing has happened."

An NPR reporter talked to two Camping followers on Sunday. "One man, his voice quavering, said he was still holding out hope that they were one day off. Another believer asserted that their prayers worked: God delayed judgment so that more people could be saved, but the end is 'imminent,'" she reported.

Evans, Camping's PR aide, told NPR he hopes Family Radio will reimburse followers who spent their savings in anticipation of the rapture, but that he can't guarantee it.

Protesters gathered outside Camping's radio headquarters to mock the false prophecy over the weekend. Some of them set aloft a toy cow with balloons to lampoon the idea that a select elite would ascend to heaven. Meanwhile, other religious groups tried to recruit disappointed Camping followers.
 

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You have to feel sorry for some of the people who got sucked into this. They showed a guy on the evening news who had spent his life savings on signs and billboards amounting to over $200,000, and standing with a group of people in Times Square while it ticked down to 6:00. And then nothing happened. He appeared absolutely stunned, but by the next day his faith had been restored, and he's still convinced the end will happen this year. God there are alot of bloody fools in this world.
Read about Millerism a very much larger and influential movement in the early 1840's
 

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Tom Evans, told the L.A. Times that the group is "disappointed" that 200 million true believers weren't lifted up to heaven on Saturday while everyone else suffered and eventually died as a series of earthquakes and famine destroyed the Earth. "You can imagine we're pretty disappointed, but the word of God is still true"

I can't believe there's 200 million people that follow this guy. Pretty sad.
 

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They are 'disappointed' because millions (billions) of people didn't die a horrible prolonged death, probably of starvation and war?

Wow.
 

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They are 'disappointed' because millions (billions) of people didn't die a horrible prolonged death, probably of starvation and war?

Wow.
Well, what do you expect? Heaven is a gated community. Only so much room. They're not just going to let any old person in there. Gotta keep the neighborhood clean from all the riff raff.
 

Aardvark154

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They are 'disappointed' because millions (billions) of people didn't die a horrible prolonged death, probably of starvation and war?

Wow.
If you are a Dispensationalist, then everyone had a choice - even if you aren't a Millenialist the statement has truth.

From a Mainstream Christian perspective, given that God is love, most would believe that save for those who actively embrace evil, most are likely to be saved.
 

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Well, what do you expect? Heaven is a gated community. Only so much room. They're not just going to let any old person in there. Gotta keep the neighborhood clean from all the riff raff.
I suspect it like this TARDIS. It only looks small from the outside.
 

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I've always thought that the 'heaven' concept seems pretty boring anyway. I mean, it's all peace and love and nobody ever gets hurt or bothered or anything - what fun is that?
 

FatOne

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I've always thought that the 'heaven' concept seems pretty boring anyway. I mean, it's all peace and love and nobody ever gets hurt or bothered or anything - what fun is that?

It is all fun and games until someone pokes out an eye, then it becomes hilarious


As for god is love, I guess someone has not read the bible.
 
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