And you continually support them except when they criticize Palestinian groups.
Do you think Gaza rockets are against international law (as HRW and Manesty say) or do you believe they are allowed as self defense (as you have repeatedly posted)?
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Do you think Gaza rockets are against international law (as HRW and Manesty say) or do you believe they are allowed as self defense (as you have repeatedly posted)?
Not at all.And you continually support them except when they criticize Palestinian groups.
You keep making this lie as if you think it'll fool someone.
I keep saying, charge both sides based on these reports.
Again, all this does is expose you as a fraud who only accepts findings on Palestinians, not on Israelis, by human rights organizations.
You are a fraud.
So after hundreds of posts where you justify Hamas rockets will you change your mind and actually agree with these report or will you continue to only support accusations against Israel?Not at all.
You keep making this lie as if you think it'll fool someone.
I keep saying, charge both sides based on these reports.
Again, all this does is expose you as a fraud who only accepts findings on Palestinians, not on Israelis, by human rights organizations.
You are a fraud.
Unlawful and deadly: Palestinian rocket attacks from Gaza
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/unlawful-and-deadly-palestinian-rocket-attacks-gaza
Gaza: Palestinian Rockets Unlawfully Targeted Israeli Civilians
https://www.hrw.org/news/2012/12/24/gaza-palestinian-rockets-unlawfully-targeted-israeli-civilians
Do you accept all the findings of those reports and the reports of Amnesty and HRW or not?So after hundreds of posts where you justify Hamas rockets will you change your mind and actually agree with these report or will you continue to only support accusations against Israel?
Unlawful and deadly: Palestinian rocket attacks from Gaza
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/unlawful-and-deadly-palestinian-rocket-attacks-gaza
Gaza: Palestinian Rockets Unlawfully Targeted Israeli Civilians
https://www.hrw.org/news/2012/12/24/gaza-palestinian-rockets-unlawfully-targeted-israeli-civilians
Why can't you answer this question directly?
Considering how often you quote them, I'm still waiting for you to admit that Gaza rockets are illegal and targeting civilians like those groups state.Do you accept all the findings...
As soon as you state that you agree with all the findings in those reports and from Amnesty and HRW I'll give your quote (again).Considering how often you quote them, I'm still waiting for you to admit that Gaza rockets are illegal and targeting civilians like those groups state.
But you don't accept any findings on Israel by HRW and Amnesty, do you?
You are a fraud.
So you disagree with HRW and Amnesty when they criticize Hamas but you know that saying so will expose you for the radical racist you are.As soon as you state that you agree with all the findings in those reports and from Amnesty and HRW I'll give your quote (again).
But you don't accept any findings on Israel by HRW and Amnesty, do you?
You are a fraud.
And as I said, I don't blindly support Amnesty or HRW. Many of their investigations are based on second or third hand information and they can not confirm the validity of that information.
With Gaza rockets though, they have direct statements from Hamas admitting what they are doing, have had direct access to fired rockets, and have seen plenty of video of the rockets and their launches. They have full first hand access to that information so their condemnation of Hamas and other Gaza factions is solidly based.
But of course you will never actually criticize Hamas because you see the world purely through dogmatic pragmatism.
Once again, I fully support those reports, both on Hamas and Israel.So you disagree with HRW and Amnesty when they criticize Hamas
You are the fraud here who quotes the reports but then calls them lies when they criticize Israel.
Take them both to the ICC.
End apartheid.
End the occupation and give them all equal rights.
So why do you constantly argue against what they say about Hamas and why do you keep justifying and excusing Hamas for their choice to use rockets instead of condemning them?Once again, I fully support those reports, both on Hamas and Israel....
p.s. Hamas is 100% opposed to equal rights as are an overwhelming majority of Palestinians yet you never criticize either one for contradicting your views. Just another case where in your racist elitism you think you can tell them what to do.
So why do you constantly lie about my views and statements?So why do you constantly argue against what they say about Hamas
Once again, I fully support those reports, both on Hamas and Israel.
You are the fraud here who quotes the reports but then calls them lies when they criticize Israel.
Take them both to the ICC.
End apartheid.
End the occupation and give them all equal rights.
Your entire posting history is full of you arguing against the conclusions of the rights groups you otherwise praise.So why do you constantly lie about my views and statements?....
Amnesty and HRW clearly state that Hamas and other Gaza factions use of rockets is completely illegal and targets civilians. You on the other hand try to minimize the weapons, make excuses for their use, and suggest they are a human right.
Of course you could prove me wrong by stating you think Hamas use of those rockets is illegal and has no justification and stating that their shooting people at bus stops or putting bombs on buses is terrorism.
You lie more than Trump here.Your entire posting history is full of you arguing against the conclusions of the rights groups you otherwise praise.
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I challenge you to find one post in which I state that I don't support investigations and charges on both sides equally based on human rights reports.
Either prove it or admit that you are a lying fraud.
I know that you don't like it when I quote your words.You lie more than Trump here....hat I don't support investigations and charges on both sides equally based on human rights reports.
Either prove it or admit that you are a lying fraud.
Just one example:
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?668861-Rockets-Fired-At-Tel-Aviv-From-GazaSure, lets listen to what Hamas says....
Now, your second claim is that they have 'war crimes weapons' aimed at Israel. There is a massive problem with your statement, those rockets are only considered war crimes because they can't be accurately aimed only at military structures.
So either you give them more accurate weapons that they can aim at military only, or you argue that its illegal that they defend themselves against foreign occupation with whatever means they have at hand.....
You deny that they are war crime rockets, you say Hamas should have better weapons, and you call the rockets self defense.
That is polar opposite what HRW and Amnesty say.
You can clarify things. Do you think Hamas illegally targets civilians with their rockets?
Funny how you refused to quote this part of that same post where I state:I know that you don't like it when I quote your words.
Just one example:
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?668861-Rockets-Fired-At-Tel-Aviv-From-Gaza
Now you state this:Personally, I think that should be taken to the ICC where they should properly investigate the legality of Hamas' rockets as well as the occupation, apartheid, weekly shooting of civilians in Gaza and the ongoing land theft/colonization.
Investigate both sides and treat them equally before the law.
Yet you refuse to accept this from HRW:That is polar opposite what HRW and Amnesty say.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/04/03/israel-gaza-killings-unlawful-calculatedIsrael: Gaza Killings Unlawful, Calculated
Officials Green-Light Shooting of Unarmed Demonstrators
You are a fraud.
I support those reports in full and continue to call for investigations based off of them.
You deny those reports and continue to excuse gunning down civilians every Friday.
Do you agree with Amnesty and HRW that Hamas rockets are completely illegal and target civilians or are you going to keep on making excuses for Hamas?Funny how you refused to quote this part of that same post where I state:....
HRW and Amensty do not say they target civilians.Do you agree with Amnesty and HRW that Hamas rockets are completely illegal and target civilians or are you going to keep on making excuses for Hamas?
I agree with Amnesty and HRW, who say that the rockets are war crimes.
I also agree with Amnesty and HRW when they say that Israeli snipers are committing crimes against humanity, amongst other Israeli war crimes.
Do you also agree with both of those findings?
And once again you argue against the rights groups you pretend to support.HRW and Amensty do not say they target civilians.
I agree with Amnesty and HRW, who say that the rockets are war crimes.
I also agree with Amnesty and HRW when they say that Israeli snipers are committing crimes against humanity, amongst other Israeli war crimes.
Do you also agree with both of those findings?
Gaza: Palestinian Rockets Unlawfully Targeted Israeli Civilians
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“Palestinian armed groups made clear in their statements that harming civilians was their aim,”
https://www.hrw.org/news/2012/12/24/gaza-palestinian-rockets-unlawfully-targeted-israeli-civilians
p.s. HRW and Amnesty HAVE investigated. Why do you reject their conclusions while claiming to support what they say?
Hey, nice research there buddy.And once again you argue against the rights groups you pretend to support.
Gaza: Palestinian Rockets Unlawfully Targeted Israeli Civilians
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“Palestinian armed groups made clear in their statements that harming civilians was their aim,”
https://www.hrw.org/news/2012/12/24/gaza-palestinian-rockets-unlawfully-targeted-israeli-civilians
p.s. HRW and Amnesty HAVE investigated. Why do you reject their conclusions while claiming to support what they say?
You found a single 7 year report that argues both that the rockets are indiscriminate and that they are being armed at civilians.
So I say yes, as soon as you say that all of HRW's reports are legit and should be used for investigations, then Hamas should be investigated for targeting civilians based on that report.
Are you willing to support all of HRW's reports?
Yet you continually argue against their criticism of Hamas. Sorry but the only out for you is to either admit that Hamas rockets are illegal targeting of civilians or to admit you don't give a shit about human rights.Hey, nice research there buddy.
You found a single 7 year report that argues both that the rockets are indiscriminate and that they are being armed at civilians.
So I say yes, as soon as you say that all of HRW's reports are legit and should be used for investigations, then Hamas should be investigated for targeting civilians based on that report.
Are you willing to support all of HRW's reports?
You have a point.p.s. HRW and Amnesty HAVE investigated. Why do you reject their conclusions while claiming to support what they say?
HRW did investigate and they also found this.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/06/13/israel-apparent-war-crimes-gazaIsrael: Apparent War Crimes in Gaza
Accountability Needed for Officials Who Authorized Lethal Force
I say the ICC should investigate both Hamas and Israel based on HRW reports you and I have both posted.
Agree?
