Is this true?

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danmand

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I stumbled over this story, that Joe Jackson repeatedly kicked Michael
Jackson in the groin when he was a child.

http://www.buzzpatrol.com/2009/07/17/paul-gohranson-michael-jackson-sterile-fathers-abuse/

"Gohranson said Michael’s dad Joe Jackson, had repeatedly beat him when he was a child, and, on several occasion, brutally kicked him in the groin, leaving him unable to have children."

I remember seeing an interview with MJ where he said his father beat him
a lot, but this seems to be reason for picking him up and putting him in jail.

Any of the MJ fans here care to comment? (Gotgusto?)
 
True or not it does not excuse his michael jackson being a child molester.
 
Homemade castration.

Got to keep that kid singing.
 
james t kirk said:
Homemade castration.

Got to keep that kid singing.
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Why would the LAPD not pick him up and investigate?
 
danmand said:
Why would the LAPD not pick him up and investigate?
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No complaint was made would be my guess. In the US the police can not just arrest someone because they are the father of a star
 
papasmerf said:
No complaint was made would be my guess. In the US the police can not just arrest someone because they are the father of a star
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I believe the police has a responsibility to investigate abuse of children,
even many years after the fact.
 
danmand said:
I believe the police has a responsibility to investigate abuse of children,
even many years after the fact.
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Only if a complaint is made or evidence is found.

We do not live in a police state and as such a television interview would not be enough evidence to arrest anyone. Assuming an investigation would have been started michael would have had to made those same allegations to the police. The police then would have sought testimony or evidence to back michaels statements.
 
danmand said:
I believe the police has a responsibility to investigate abuse of children, even many years after the fact.
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First there has been no complaint to investigate. Second without looking it up in all likelihood the Statute of Limitations has run in both Indiana and California.

I have no information as to the truth of the story, but certainly from what we all know of Joe Jackson's treatment of his children, it certainly is plausible.
 
danmand said:
Why would the LAPD not pick him up and investigate?
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I'd be in favor of that, Joe is the reason Michael was so messed up....

OTB
 
Aardvark154 said:
First there has been no complaint to investigate. Second without looking it up in all likelihood the Statute of Limitations has run in both Indiana and California.
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Is there a statute of limitations for serious abuse? Murder?

I am surprised that you seem to imply that LE do not investigate unless there is a
complaint. Not the case for speeding.

PS: I should have written Investigate and subsequently pick up if eveidence is found.
 
danmand said:
Is there a statute of limitations for serious abuse? Murder?

I am surprised that you seem to imply that LE do not investigate unless there is a
complaint. Not the case for speeding.

PS: I should have written Investigate and subsequently pick up if eveidence is found.
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No statute on serious crimes, like murder, but I don't know where the line is drawn and probably varies by state anyway.

Speeding is something that happens in front of the officer, so he is the complainant.

Police can investigate whatever they want, but in many states you need a complainant to file charges before anyone can be prosecuted. This changed in Canada in the late 80's/early 90's primarily to deal with domestic abuse cases (although it applies elsewhere as well) and allows police to lay charges without a complainant (cops show up, wife visibly abused but refuses to cooperate and/or press charges).

Old cases are hard to try, and without active support from the victim, impossible to win, so they don't bother.
 
Michael's dead, so let it go.

However, the parents (who are both as fucked up as they come) are now trying to take possession of Jackson's kids (cause they want the money).

Fear for those kids, they are going to end up fucked up if it's not already too late.
 
Limitation statutes vary from state to state, but most seem to be in the neighbourhood of 4 years. However, there seems to be many cases that reach the state supreme courts where the decision has allowed for criminal charges to proceed even after decades have passed. The common thread in these appears to be repressed childhood memories coming to surface. The accusers seem to have initially filed civil lawsuits against their abusers prior to a criminal case being brought, and I would suspect that many doctors & psychological tests are involved in the criminal proceedings.
 
danmand said:
Is there a statute of limitations for serious abuse? Murder?
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Started to write a reply but I see moresex4me has answered it well.

The only thing I would add is that there is never a statute of limitations on murder. For other serious crimes it entirely depends upon what the statute has been set at (by law under the normal legislative process) and this does vary between U.S. states and between states and the Federal Government (if the offense is both a federal and state crime). As mentioned in some states as in Canada by statute the police can arrest for domestic assaults even it did not take place in their presence.

Not to get into this deeper and deeper, but in the J.J. situation without a cooperative witness (indicated by the fact M.J. never filed a complaint about this) a prosecution would have been very difficult even twenty years ago.
 
That would explain......................


..................the squeeky little voice!:eek:
 
asn said:
an acquaintance just bought a house. after he had put his big screen tv in the truck a neighbor of his in the building he was living came up to him and told him that if he didn't give her the tv she would go and tell the cops he molested her 9 yr old daughter. since she was rather stupid he took out his phone and told her he had recorded her and that he was going to call the cops himself to have her thrown in jail after which she backed off.
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I would have explained to her why she should go away.It is a shame when a neighbor has a cerebral hemorrhage caused by unkown circumstances.
 
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