Is This P.P's Kiss Of Death?

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The real issue is that people are voting for the pm. They should be more focused on getting the right candidate for their riding, but the average canadian voter doesn't understand parliament.
True, the uneducated Canadian voter gets their info on X and Facebook.
 

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Danielle Smith tells U.S. podcast she asked Trump administration to pause tariffs to bolster Conservatives
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In the interview with Breitbart, Alberta Premier Danielle Smith did not specify to whom in the Trump administration she made her remarks, or what response she received.Darren Calabrese/The Canadian Press
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Alberta Premier Danielle Smith says she asked the Trump administration to pause its tariff actions until after the Canadian federal election in hopes of seeing a win by Pierre Poilievre’s Conservatives.
The Premier made her comments in an interview with Breitbart News Saturday on March 8. They resurfaced on the weekend, with the official kickoff of the campaign on Sunday.
“Because of what we see as unjust and unfair tariffs, it’s actually caused an increase in support for the Liberals,” Ms. Smith told Breitbart News Washington bureau chief Matthew Boyle.
“So that’s what I fear. The longer this dispute goes on, politicians posture, and it seems to be benefiting the Liberals right now. I would hope that we could put things on pause, is what I’ve told administration officials.”
Ms. Smith did not specify to whom in the administration she made her remarks, or what response she received.
Her comments drew criticism that she was issuing an invitation to meddle in the electoral process.
Naheed Nenshi, Leader of Alberta’s New Democrats, accused Ms. Smith of being happier to placate U.S. President Donald Trump than to work with Canadians.
“Calling for a pause on tariffs to politically benefit one party or another isn’t the right approach,” Mr. Nenshi said in a statement. “But standing firm for Canada is.”
Pierre Poilievre kicks off Conservative election campaign under shadow of Trump’s trade war
Sam Blackett, press secretary to Ms. Smith, said any suggestion that the Premier is asking the U.S. to interfere in Canada’s election is “offensive and false.”
Ms. Smith said in a statement that she has been working to convince U.S. officials at all levels of just how damaging the threatened tariffs would be to both Canadians and Americans. This has included asking those same officials to refrain from placing tariffs on Canadian goods until a proper renegotiation of the Canada-United States-Mexico Agreement can be held after the election, with a Prime Minister who has won a mandate from Canadians, she said.

“Now that an election has been called, I would reiterate my hope that the U.S. would refrain from placing tariffs on their closest ally and largest trading partner during the middle of the election,” she said.
Mr. Poilievre did not directly answer a question from The Globe and Mail about the appropriateness of Ms. Smith’s comments. Instead, he said there is good reason why Mr. Trump said it would be easier to deal with Canada if the Liberals formed the next government: because Liberals have weakened the country.
Liberal Leader Mark Carney said it will be up to voters to decide whether they want a unified government standing up for Canada or one that wants “division and Americanism,” which he said is what Mr. Poilievre seems to be offering, and Ms. Smith is endorsing.
In another part of the interview, the Premier suggested that Mr. Poilievre’s policies would most closely align with Mr. Trump’s.
“Pierre believes in development. He believes in low-cost energy. He believes that we need to have low taxes, doesn’t believe in any of the woke stuff that we’ve seen taking over our politics for the last five years,” Ms. Smith said.
“There’s probably still always going to be areas that are skirmishes or disputes about particular industries when it comes to the border, but I would say, on balance, the perspective that Pierre would bring would be very much in sync with, I think, the new direction in America. I think we’d have a really great relationship for the period of time they’re both in.”

Treason is punishable by up to 20 years in prison; Canada doesn't have a death sentence.
 

JohnLarue

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The real issue is that people are voting for the pm. They should be more focused on getting the right candidate for their riding, but the average canadian voter doesn't understand parliament.
that is how parliament use to work

not recently
The PMO dictated policy for the last 10 years
I.e. Katie Telford and Gerald Butts

if Carney wins he will be dictating policy.
He wont need Katie and Gerald to tell him what he is thinking like Justin did
 

nottyboi

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Singh I could absolutely see loosing his seat. He's been an unmitigated disaster for the NDP. I know a fair number of union members who would sooner jump feet first into a wood chipper than vote NDP. Last I saw the boys all of them said they were voting CPC but that was well before Carney came into the picture
In a trade war, any union member that votes Con is what one would call an IDIOT. 👍
 

nottyboi

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The real issue is that people are voting for the pm. They should be more focused on getting the right candidate for their riding, but the average canadian voter doesn't understand parliament.
Yes they do. in Canada Parliamentary solidarity is still strong. so you can't really count on independent acting MPs
 

Skoob

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I'm always incredulous about polls, especially where approval/disapproval is being measured, this highlights a big reason why. They'll break down all the numbers they've generated but never tell you why people feel that way. Is it really that implausible to assume that the reason Poilievre doesn't have strong favorability among those polled is because he is a watered down liberal? I'm not so sure that's the case.

I'm also extremely incredulous that the Liberals have made this miraculous turnaround and are headed for a majority. Especially when considering the guy who has replaced Trudeau has the same political operatives responsible for Trudeau's rise backing him (I'm speaking specifically about Katie Telford and Gerry Butts), a former Trudeau cabinet minister as his chief of staff in Marco Mendocino, named a temporary cabinet that is composed largely of former Trudeau cabinet ministers and has a long history of supporting all the same stupid shit that Trudeau did.

Either way I'm at the point where I truely believe that there's no good party to vote for anywhere in Canadian politics. For the first time since I've been able to vote I'm likely going to sit this one out. I refuse to pick between Curly, Larry and Moe
I would tend to agree with some of your viewpoints.

Replacing Trudeau with Carney was basically a strategy to show that the Liberal party came to the conclusion that their leader was not mature enough in many ways and needed to bring in the optics of the opposite type of leader. That move helped them retain and possibly attract more Liberal supporters. ie "replace the teenager with the adult."
However, can one assume that supporters who voted Liberal due to their climate policies (i.e. carbon tax) will suddenly be ok with abandoning that policy? Seems hypocritical.

The more this campaign goes on, the more the Liberal platform resembles the Conservative one.

The question is will Carney stick to it if elected?

We know Poilievre will.
 

mandrill

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Good humour on part of Ben. Good idea to expel our idiot clown.
You're cheering for the "51st state" idea, huh?

The other 90% of us are patriotic Canadians, not American lackeys.
 

mandrill

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No, damn government, indiscriminately importing migrants from incompatible cultures and promoting LGBTQXYZ woo-woo.
Can't have those black and brown people from "incompatible cultures".

We should still be flying the British flag and complaining that there are "too many Italians coming to Toronto", like my dad complained in the 1960's.
 
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boobtoucher

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Can't have those black and brown people from "incompatible cultures".

We should still be flying the British flag and complaining that there are "too many Italians coming to Toronto", like my dad complained in the 1960's.
And before them the Irish, and the Chinese, and and and...

The capital class is gonna keep you fighting amongst yourselves so you never look at them as the problem.
 
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onomatopoeia

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Canada still needs a few million more Asian immigrants so that their children will be on the hook for the accumulated government debt accrual which has allowed everyone born before the Millennial generation to live beyond their means, at the expense of future generations.
 
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